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Post by middlepillar on Jan 12, 2005 20:29:02 GMT
When I meet my French Brothers on Friday, we will hug and kiss three times on the cheek, I think this is a French thing. And just for the record I dropped my youngest son off for a day trip to France just before Christmas (He is 12) And he gave me a Kiss and a hug at 5.00 in the morning, in front of all his friends ;D ;D I am from a hugging/kissing family
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Post by staffs on Jan 12, 2005 20:40:17 GMT
We seem to be straying from the topic that Russell was talking about.
RE : The energy felt by communicating in this manner.
lets be fair a handshake does not have the same feeling does it.I am sure Russell and Whistler are going to tell us why.
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Post by leonardo on Jan 12, 2005 20:44:21 GMT
Chris, and isn't it a nice way to be? I have heard stories about the Royals not being close in this way, but then I saw a documentry which showed they're very much like the rest of us, all hugging and kissing. The french thing is, I beleive, wonderful. When I lived in Paris in the 80s I got so many kisses you just wouldn't believe! And Lee, it wasn't just the men ;D ;D
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Post by staffs on Jan 12, 2005 20:58:49 GMT
Maybe thats why they are called "Gay Parisiennes"
Sorry Russell your thread is being hijacked by huggers.
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Post by middlepillar on Jan 12, 2005 22:30:35 GMT
Russell
I am sorry to of gone off the topic, but maybe not as much as first appears.
If you take the FPOF as a whole then both aspirants are in fact almost enclosing each other in a ball or circle, with the left hand pushed out to protect. Now in most esoteric orders I am associated with we tend to open each meeting within a circle. Is there a connection here? It is perhaps the 'strongest' the Unit is at anytime. I have never thought about The FPOF in this context until now so I am really thinking as I am going along. You have mentioned energy spots, which I can see, but what about 'whole encompassment?
Just some observations.
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Post by taylorsman on Jan 12, 2005 22:51:36 GMT
I have to say that I am a very unemotional person. A handshake suffices for me.
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Post by leonardo on Jan 12, 2005 23:22:33 GMT
It doesn't mean you're an unemotional person, just that you are not perhaps given to public displays of emotion.
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Post by Late Knight Chemist on Jan 13, 2005 0:19:46 GMT
Steve,
Most people make do do with a handshake.
What would blow your mind is the PGM in Mark singing three verses of the Masters Song so that he finishes standing behind you in the East (single verses are given from the West) and kissing your bonce.
That's fellowship.
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Post by Late Knight Chemist on Jan 13, 2005 0:38:34 GMT
middlepillar,
I have just been called a gent but on this occasion I am inclined to use the ungentlemanly expression "CTC".
Sharing the FPOF Emulation style encloses the other party in a hemisphere or semicircle - that is he is not enclosed at all. Placing the hand on the back more or less forms the complete circle and does provide the security, etc ascribe to a circle.
My friend, we really are pushing the boat out if we are looking for a supernatural explanation for the FPOF. If I we to give you a hug believe me you would feel the energy flow and with increasing intensity as the hug became tighter. Performing Emulation FPOF is like limp handshake by comparison.
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Post by hollandr on Jan 13, 2005 1:10:49 GMT
Bruce
The experience that prompted this thread was when I was making love to my partner and I observed energy points pretty close to the FPOF. At the same time I received the concept "spot welding"
So while you may discount such things, the experience was real enough for me and provided me with some interesting learnings and lines of investigation in terms of Masonry and in terms of personal relationships.
Cheers
Russell
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Post by taylorsman on Jan 13, 2005 6:44:06 GMT
Bruce, I can accept close physical contact within the context of a Ceremony, therefore no problem with the F.P.of.F. or other such events in the Degrees and Orders to which I belong, but I can't say I would appreciate what you have described as happening in the Midlands either at Mark or the hugging you also mentioned as I feel it would be misconstrued and another good reason in my book for me not to visit in Worcs/Warks. I have to say that I also find some of the practices in Church at The Pax a bit OTT. Again a simple handshake for The Sign of Peace suffices for me but I have seen some to my mind out of place hugging, kissing etc. Now this may well be cultural, I know the French are more demonstrative in this regard.
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