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Post by whistler on Mar 16, 2005 22:24:57 GMT
Much of St Patricks life is still a mystery - Where was he taken for his captivity Did he hear Gods Voice telling him to save Ireland
Did he have a second revelation.
Why did he superimpose the sun onto the cross
why was the sun a powerful Irish Symbol...
Like the St Germain - another mystery figure in our past...
We should consider them all with respect, and accept some humans can do things that are not ordinary..
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Post by leonardo on Mar 16, 2005 23:07:26 GMT
Whistler Some good questions. Originally Ireland was a Pagan country. St Patrick is accredited with changing all that. The following link provides some more info. It also suggest St Patrick was a Welsh man! This might be true but I've also heard he was from France. wilstar.com/holidays/patrick.htm
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Post by ruffashlar on Mar 17, 2005 4:46:39 GMT
The strongest tradition suggests that Patrick was actually born in Scotland: Scots as an ethnic group lived in both Ireland and Scotland, and there were many different kingdoms occupying both these areas. Dublin at this time, for example, though a town with a Gaelic name, was actually a colony of Norsemen; and the central belt of Scotland as well as part of the north of England, formed a Welsh-speaking kingdom called Rhydderch.
Patrick is believed to have been a nobleman by birth, since his latinized name Patricius means noble in the class-specific sense. It was a common practice for noble families with two male heirs to send the younger into the Church to get an education, as well as to find another position of influence and power for the family. St Olaf, for example, for all his airy-fairy legendary life, was in reality the brother of Viking mercenary Harald Hardradi, and very like him in character. So Patrick himself, in the more probable version, may have had an elder brother who has been written out of history.
As to superimposing the cross on the sun, that symbol was already in existence in Celtic culture. The sun, in Gaelic grainne, is feminine: her round, gravid sphere is pregnant with life. Perhaps, setting upon the crossbar of the horizon, the sun goddess's eternally virgin womb was considered to be being penetrated by the phallic upright of Earth's standing stone. The bloody union explained, perhaps, the red light of sunset.
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