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Post by beejay on Mar 2, 2014 23:49:26 GMT
I had not heard that Perhaps a Pelican
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Post by beersheva on Mar 3, 2014 3:42:35 GMT
oops......that's correct. A better image of "MAN". And also correct....I meant to change the Phoenix to a Pelican, but got very involved with a few websites. Thank you for the corrections.
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Post by beejay on Mar 3, 2014 5:08:51 GMT
In my view the Pelican, not only is an alchemical process, but also a reference to the Solar Logos (spirit ensouling the solar system) that feeds its young (planets) with its own substance.
I am not sure that religious applications are the primary symbolism.
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Post by beersheva on Mar 3, 2014 16:16:35 GMT
Yes, I've seen the Pelican used in Alchemical Symbolism. I would have to review those images to comment intelligently to what you recently wrote. I'll check on Adam McLeans' site to see if I can find some.
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Post by beejay on Mar 3, 2014 22:10:08 GMT
I suspect that alchemists and rosicrucians sought legitimacy (and avoided burning) by insinuating their imagery into mainstream Christianity. Christianity already held so many inherited images that it was hardly noticed.
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Post by beersheva on Mar 3, 2014 23:25:27 GMT
Where did you obtain what looks like a photo of a glass Alchemical apparatus above?
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Post by beejay on Mar 3, 2014 23:30:36 GMT
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Post by beersheva on Mar 3, 2014 23:42:18 GMT
From the 3rd Key of Basil Valentine concerning the Great Stone of the Sages:
Then it must be so exalted as to shine more brightly than all the stars of heaven, and in its essence it must have an abundance of blood, like the Pelican, which wounds its own breast, and, without any diminution of its strength, nourishes and rears up many young ones with its blood. This Tincture is the Rose of our Masters, of purple hue, called also the red blood of the Dragon, or the purple cloak many times folded with which the Queen of Salvation is covered, and by which all metals are regenerated in colour.
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Post by sammy on Mar 4, 2014 15:15:12 GMT
The pelican distillation. Is to separate the fluid from the solid with complete accuracy. Is it used to preserve both sides depending on the experiment, or is one result more important then the other? I noticed it said distillation, meaning water or other something else?
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Post by beejay on Mar 4, 2014 22:18:49 GMT
" The Pelican is a circulatory distillation vessel with two side-arms feeding condensed vapors back into the body. It resembles a pelican pecking at its breast to feed its hatchlings with its own blood, and thus is a symbol of the sacrifice the original solution goes through to give up its essence in the experiment. The alchemist believed that compounds could be created in the Pelican that no other apparatus could produce." www.crucible.org/pelican.htmThe idea is that the essence comes off in the distillate but that distillate is condensed and flows back in the base of the vessel so that the body of the material is digested further in the distillate until eventually some subtle alchemical process occurs.
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Post by beersheva on Mar 5, 2014 0:36:05 GMT
The RITUALS of FREEMASONRY are inter-related, each showing MASONIC LIGHT on the others. They are based on the following:
ALCHEMY HERMETIC PHILOSOPHY KABBALAH MAGIA ASTROLOGY TAROT
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Post by sammy on Mar 5, 2014 1:01:47 GMT
Thank you for the info! Makes sense.
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Post by beersheva on Mar 5, 2014 2:18:46 GMT
TAROT is Hermetic analogy, Astrological Archetypes and Kabbalah combined, so, in a way, it's redundant except that it indicates all the Sub-Stellar forces operating in our world in images more adaptable to understanding the various connections.
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