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Post by leonardo on Jan 21, 2008 14:45:04 GMT
I just wish to share an observation that others may have also experienced and therefore better placed to explain. I wasn't going to go into this at this stage but somehow feel compelled to do so.
Before becoming a Freemason I never really gave too much thought or notice to spirituality or the different energies we sometimes hear or read about, but since joining the Craft, and especially when in Lodge, I do sense certain changes or inner experiences going on that I can't explain - sorry, I can't really language it properly.
Whatever it is I do sense it, and that's my point. I am sensing things I never felt before, or if I did I took no notice. Others may know what I mean.
Can someone shed any light as to what is going on, and is this normal?
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 21, 2008 19:51:27 GMT
Welcome, Brother among Masons, to an awareness and quickening of the ineffable Mystic Tie that binds us to all that is. This is proof of the regularity of your Initiation. In a school, the class of students focuses on one teacher: In Freemasonry, the roles are reversed as the lodge of "teachers" focuses on one "student" or initiate (bearing-in-mind that, in any worthwhile lesson, the teacher/s also learn much). All the traditional domains of learning (cognitive, behavioural and emotional) are deployed, as the initiate is overwhelmed with new information, role play and challenges: To this are also added moral and spiritual domains, whereby Freemasonry assists in unfolding the universal values at the very core of our being, revealing the Mystic Tie. You have learnt your lesson well.
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Post by maat on Jan 21, 2008 22:51:25 GMT
....... remember what you promised, listen well, do your 'homework' and be aware that you will be tested! (we always feel a bit sorry for EA's... he he he..) Maat PS Revisit this site, translate what it says into Masonic terms and you will gain an understanding of what is going on. Explore the whole site not just the opening page. www.tantra-kundalini.com/nadis.htm
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Post by wayseer on Jan 22, 2008 6:44:01 GMT
Can someone shed any light as to what is going on, and is this normal?
Is it normal? No - only those who are attuned to the teachings recognise this pattern - it is a response to your increasing spiritual awareness.
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Post by Antonius on Jan 22, 2008 8:54:30 GMT
multiple patterns actualy. i think what happens is simply a result of your conciouss mind being more experianced in interpeting the symbolic language of the subconciouss. its a skill where u are not aware of the effort to develop it as that is just buisness as usual, and so all u experiance are the rewards.
the more the mind is trained to find symbolic meaning in things, the more information can go directly to the subconciouss without being filtered by the rational mind, the more we recognise patterns and intuitively understand the dynamics behind them.
i predict you will begin to understand meny things that are byond your capability to articulate in any spoken or written language. i also predict you will develop a strong urge to create art of some kind.
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Post by leonardo on Jan 22, 2008 9:54:31 GMT
Thanks to everyone who have responded so far, your input is greatly appreciated and has gone a long way in enabling me to understand more of what I am experiencing on this stage of my journey.
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Post by jimnicholson on Jan 26, 2008 8:03:53 GMT
The principle of RESONANCE is activated when an object is in like vibration with another. The above post regarding the Teacher's concentrating upon the student is amazing, and I think one can extend that to the Great Spirit as well -- that essence that is within us which we are merely allowing more expression thru us. "The Mystic Tie" indeed. The Onelife which is really ourself... It appears what changes is the personality -- the conceptual framework -- what is taken on is but what has always been the true foundation -- the Spirit or Unity Conception. The progression is wonderful and when one develops a "taste" for ever more states of connectivity what was work or a "test" becomes a joy.
Breathe with the sky and don't ask why It is your Self -- the Mystic Tie The life in the friend is but one with you Listen for the harmony -- comming thru
At times leave the sense of a separate self flow with the Whole -- there is nothing else Rest from all strain of pulling your own way Be one with the Hive -- and from Love you will never stray
Feel within for the onelife stream the flowering of the soul is an ongoing dream never awaken from that which is sweet and give a little bit out to all that you meet
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Post by Antonius on Jan 27, 2008 16:33:25 GMT
does any1 else feel that this process causes a disconnect with the people who are underdeveloped in this?
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Post by danael on Jan 27, 2008 20:47:31 GMT
this process should not cause a disconnect. only a difference. just because one grows with the light does not mean they should become disconnected but come to a greater understanding of those persons.
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 27, 2008 21:27:37 GMT
Indeed. While profane crowds can be disconcerting, the appreciation of each individual is intensified: On the one hand, we are each unique and yet, on the other hand, we are each expressions of the One Life, bound by that Mystic Tie.
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Post by imakegarb on Jan 27, 2008 21:43:00 GMT
Bro. Leo, you have my ever sympathy. And empathy. I arrived in Masonry about as not-esoteric. For me, things happen and we give them meaning. I was very conservative in my thinking and I soooooooo didn't do whooo-whooo. But . . . Well, long story . . . I seen and experienced stuff that would turn you white. And, yup, I've experienced that inner reworking. It is continual. And quite a challenge to my grounded self. slowly, I've had to adjust to these experiences and adapt them into my thought processes. Not an easy thing. Just recognize that, truly, there is *no* whooo-whoooo. Not really. Just things you never noticed before and will, soon, better understand. Also remember your Brothers, many of them, have been thru this. So you're not alone. All will be well
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Post by leonardo on Jan 27, 2008 21:53:13 GMT
Bro. Leo, you have my ever sympathy. And empathy. I arrived in Masonry about as not-esoteric. For me, things happen and we give them meaning. I was very conservative in my thinking and I soooooooo didn't do whooo-whooo. But . . . Well, long story . . . I seen and experienced stuff that would turn you white. And, yup, I've experienced that inner reworking. It is continual. And quite a challenge to my grounded self. slowly, I've had to adjust to these experiences and adapt them into my thought processes. Not an easy thing. Just recognize that, truly, there is *no* whooo-whoooo. Not really. Just things you never noticed before and will, soon, better understand. Also remember your Brothers, many of them, have been thru this. So you're not alone. All will be well Thank you Bro. Karen. Your post, and of course other relevant ones, are very helpful and comforting.
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Post by hollandr on Jan 27, 2008 22:35:52 GMT
>does any1 else feel that this process causes a disconnect
Antonius
Traditionally the process of learning to control emotions and then thoughts leaves the human separate from the waves that sweep across humanity
This emotional and mental isolation increases until control of the mind is finally achieved. This is the point at which the human can become a genuine 3rd degree initiate.
Technically this is the first stage of enlightenment - the spiritual light now flows with little obstruction through the personality. But of course there are many more frequencies of light to be perceived and used.
Around that time the heart becomes more active and unity with humanity becomes experienced on a daily basis.
Thus after experiencing the point of maximum isolation (and maximum discomfort) the initiate learns to swim in the ocean of humanity
Cheers
Russell
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Post by corab on Jan 28, 2008 12:36:02 GMT
Bro:. Patrick,
I can't judge whether it is "normal" or not -- and who can? -- but I can certainly put your mind at rest in that it is not at all uncommon to experience this.
Sit back, relax, and let "it" do its thing -- all will be well.
With frat. love, and h.g.w.,
Cora
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Post by leonardo on Jan 28, 2008 13:04:19 GMT
Thank you Bro. Cora for that. It means much to know these "sensings" are more "normal" than initially thought.
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Post by devoutfreemason on Jan 28, 2008 17:45:56 GMT
Congrats my Brother. YOu have indeed experianced the power of the blue light ;D Seriously though, I have been 100% where you are. It is miraculous.
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Post by leonardo on Jan 28, 2008 18:10:45 GMT
Thank you Bro. Brad. It is an on going thing and I look forward to gaining more understanding each and everyday.
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Post by choochoo808 on Mar 11, 2011 18:17:46 GMT
Edited for sanity
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Post by billmcelligott on Mar 12, 2011 17:15:26 GMT
Hi choochoo, can I first say, great , i am please you find Freemasonry an enlightening experience.
There were 2 men Charlie and Archibald.
Charlie was fascinated by being happy, he spent hours and hours considering what made people happy and what made them sad. he decided to study this at University and produced book after book on how to make yourself happy.
Archibald just considered himself lucky to be happy, as his friend Charlie was a miserable so and so.
But seriously i think these feelings come with a realization you just did something good.
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