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Post by middlepillar on Nov 10, 2004 18:46:56 GMT
[quote author=jmd Still, until the general rules change, I wonder how many here are members of either SRIA, its sister organisations, or its breakaway bodies... ...I obviously am [/quote] JMD Going back to your original question, I am and as you can see from earlier postings Taylorsman is, so there are at least 3 of us I would like to know like you how many more there are? Another thing for everyone to know is The SRIA are in the process of constructing a web site, at the moment there is not a lot for non-members but I promise you there will be soon, so keep looking! For those of you who are members of the SRIA and can prove it I will let you know the Password and user name, use the excellent message board and I will get back to you! The web site is www.sria.uk.net
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Post by ruffashlar on Nov 11, 2004 7:25:24 GMT
Wow! I wonder if SRIS has any plans in that direction?
Well, as you can probably tell, I'm not a Frater. I'm not very long in the door, but being Scottish I'm already a MMM. I'm just about to move up to Junior Deacon at the next Installation, and at the end of this month (will it ever arrive?) I'm "gaun' through the Erch" (HRA) as we say. Be that as it may, as I'm sure you can all equally tell, I'm very interested in SRIS, the GLoS equivalent of SRIA.
"Gagging for it" is I believe the appropriate term ;D
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Post by middlepillar on Nov 11, 2004 8:34:35 GMT
Ruff
I only wish I could be there when you join!
I am sure after a year or two some of the olerd Fraters would be quoted as saying "Do you remember when we used to be able to fall asleep in the corner?" The other would reply "Yes before that Ashlar appeared and started smoothing itself in our College!"
Join it and enjoy it!
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Post by adder on Nov 18, 2004 11:27:56 GMT
There are a number of groups claiming direct linage from the original Mother Temple,very,very few able to substantiate their claims.There are also quite a few quite legitimate "successor groups" that do not use the name Golden Dawn. There are two groups in the U.S.A. who battled it out in the courts and both were granted the rights to the name,trade marks e.t.c.I find this side of it particularly boring.Sorry. For those who may be interested: www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/trademark%20update.htm.
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Post by Lewis on Nov 18, 2004 17:35:18 GMT
adder that link you posted is broken
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Post by adder on Nov 18, 2004 17:45:05 GMT
adder that link you posted is broken It wasn't earlier!Click on the link to the G.D. homepage provided on the "this page cannot be displayed" page.Then scroll down to Whats New.Then click onto Trademark Status Update.Then arrange to take an I.Q. test.( for chrissake)
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Post by plewis66 on Mar 19, 2005 19:16:31 GMT
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Post by plewis66 on Mar 19, 2005 19:31:56 GMT
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Post by middlepillar on Mar 20, 2005 20:02:07 GMT
PLewis,
Yes they are the same organisation, the web site you have noted is one of the Provinces, The main SRIA web site is still very much under construction, as a member you can access it if you are not a member at the moment unfortunatley you cannot access it, this will change in the near future.
With respect to your enquiry elswhere regarding GD, The GD that you are talking about was started by the Likes of W.W.Westcott and he was Supreme Magus of the Societas Rosicruciana. At the time of its beginning all the leading lights of The GD were very Senior members of The Societas hence it having an almost identical Grade system, however although some of The members of the Societas are also still members of The GD The Societas has nothing to do with the running of The GD.
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Post by ruffashlar on Mar 20, 2005 22:49:21 GMT
This is burning a hole in my mind. I need to track down someone from SRIS and ask how one goes about getting oneself invited.
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Post by Thegnostic on Mar 21, 2005 18:49:56 GMT
Hi Middlepillar, Just need to correct you on this point, apologies; PLewis, With respect to your enquiry elswhere regarding GD, The GD that you are talking about was started by the Likes of W.W.Westcott and he was Supreme Magus of the Societas Rosicruciana. At the time of its beginning all the leading lights of The GD were very Senior members of The Societas hence it having an almost identical Grade system, however although some of The members of the Societas are also still members of The GD The Societas has nothing to do with the running of The GD. The GD system starts as a Neophyte, the SRIA is as a Zelator. In LVX Gnostic For those who are awake the Cosmos is One.
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Post by middlepillar on Mar 21, 2005 21:51:35 GMT
Gnostic I did say almost identical!
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Post by ruffashlar on Mar 23, 2005 14:16:19 GMT
...And ends (if he's lucky) as an Ipsissimus (absolutely himself). I can't help but think there were quite enough Big Giant Heads in the GD, anyway, without conferring it as a Grade.
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Post by jmd on Mar 26, 2005 23:45:15 GMT
I personally would not in the least consider the SRIA/S/CF and the GD 'almost identical'. In fact, I would see them as radically different.
The Grades (except for the additional 0=0 of the GD) are effectively similarly titled, and further there is a view that links each of them upon the Tree of Life.
Likewise the grades in AMORC, which are similarly titled.
That Wescott, Mathers and Woodman were all even high ranking members of the SRIA shows one of their major influences. What they did with the stuff, however, seems radically different.
Personally, I would not like to see GD interpretations of SRIA materials or rituals (as has started to happen in some quarters) becoming more pronounced. The two are distinct, and though I have worked with both, have for quite some time only desired to maintain a working interest in the SRIA/S/CF.
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Post by ricardo on Mar 30, 2005 20:27:02 GMT
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Post by sid on Jun 3, 2005 14:10:06 GMT
Regarding the SRIA: A friend of mine gave me an original copy of the FAME AND CONFESSION that was printed for the SRIA in 1923 (Margate). It is a facsimile copy of the 2 so called Rosicrucian manifestos in English from 1652. There is an excellent introduction, with research notes, and a translation of a letter of Adam Haselmeyer by F.N. Pryse, M.A.
There is also an interesting list of the names of the subscribers from A-Z with their location.
Regards, Sid
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