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Post by whistler on Feb 27, 2005 8:45:54 GMT
WE certainly must not list them here- Bro have you ever noticed how many time 3 appears in the entered apprentice initiation how many can you find?
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Post by whistler on Feb 27, 2005 22:30:33 GMT
OK I will start the ball rolling I got to 5.
any advance on 5?
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Post by offramp on Mar 3, 2005 5:47:24 GMT
No.
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Post by staffs on Mar 3, 2005 7:08:43 GMT
Whistler. i have found six
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Post by middlepillar on Mar 9, 2005 22:38:08 GMT
I think we need to tie this thread in with the number 3 and triangles thread on the Kaballa board, I would be interested to see where these two threads go!
For myself I find the number 3 and the triangle quite the most important shape/number in Freemasonry but I would really like this thread to develop more.....
Any chance of Pasting them together?
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Post by staffs on Mar 10, 2005 7:04:31 GMT
Middle Pillar ,it is done and moved but it cannot be pasted into another topic.Unless someone knows different ?
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Post by whistler on Mar 10, 2005 9:19:07 GMT
I am quite happy with the move, and yes staffs there are more 3's, it is a pity we shouldn't list them. It was listening to a lecture by our RWM - who listed of a great number of threes which got me thinking I thing I can get up to 10 - So Middlepillar - is the a Kabbalistic importance to the number of 3's that appear in the EA Degree
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Post by middlepillar on Mar 10, 2005 17:21:47 GMT
[quote author=whistler So Middlepillar - is the a Kabbalistic importance to the number of 3's that appear in the EA Degree[/quote] Whistler As the number 3 is very important in all aspects not just The EA Degree, I am copying out a line of thought which you yourself may find interesting. It is St Martins interpretation of the number 3! III The Triad The number three does not derive the principle from itself, nor indeed does it possess the principle. The observations on this number are scattered and obscure, including vague references to a temporal law of the triad on which the dual temporal law is absolutely dependant. In the divine order, 3 is The Holy Tenary, as 4 is the act of its explosion and 7 the universal product and infinite immensity of the wonders of this explosion. 3 to us only by 12 united or added, as 4 is known to us only by its explosion or multiplication, which gives us 16, and as 7, which is the addition of this 16, describes our temporal (3) and spiritual(4) supremacy, or the immensity of our destiny as man. The number three operates the direction of forms in the celestial and terrestrial; that is, in all bodies the number of spiritual principles being triadic, every name and every sign which falls on this number belongs to forms or must operate some effect on forms. In the super celestial it was the thought of the Divinity which conceived the design of producing this world, and concieved it triadically, because such was the laws of forms innate in the divine thought. Now the thoughts of God are beings. The concerted and unaminous action in the Divine Ternary is represented by the three officiating priests when they move together in the Mass. Three is also the number of the essences or elements of which bodies are universally composed. By this number the law directing the production of elements is manifested, and these are reduced by Saint-Martin to Three, on the ground that there are only three dimensions, three possible divisions of any extended thing, three figures in geometory, three innate faculties in any being whatsoever, three temporal worlds, three grades in true Freemasonry, and as this law of the triad shows itself universally with so much exactitude, it is reasonable to suppose that it obtains in the number of the elements which are the foundation of bodies. If the number three be imposed on all created things, it is because it presided at thier origin. Had there been four instead of three elements, they would have been indestructible and the world eternal; being three they are devoid of permanent existence, because they are without unity, as will be clear to those who know the true laws of numbers. The reason, whatever it may be, seems to conflict with another statement that there can be three in one in the Divine Triad but not one in three, because that which is one in three must be subject to death. Three is not only the number of the essence and directing law of the elements, but also that of thier incorporation. It is, finally, the mercurial-terrestrial number of the solid part of bodies, in symbolical correspondence with the animal senary soul of which it is the first product, and with all the interediary principles in all classes. NB. St Martins work is always very Christian in its essence, so there may be some who find the above not in line with thier own thinking, (I hope you are not offended) but it is quite interesting for all (hopefully) And simple Rosicrucian; No 3 is called the majestic number, as it refers to the Trinity, The triple essence of the Deity; its emblem is the equilateral triangle, which in Ancient Egypt was called the Sacred Delta; it was symbolical of Osiris, Isis and Horus, and the Hierpphant in the mysteries of Osiris required all Candidates to take the oath of secrecy with both hands extended over this Divine Symbol (This is also explained in HRA). Brahma, Vishnu and Siva form the Trinity of the Hindoos. Please remember the Kabbal is used extensively in Rosicrucianism. Whistler, I hope this makes for interesting reading for you! it took me long enough to type it out. I would be interested to see your comments.
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Post by whistler on Mar 10, 2005 18:11:33 GMT
Middlepillar - Brilliant , I will give it a good read and certainly reply, but it wont be until after the weekl end as I am going Bush for the weekend,,, ;D
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