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Oct 20, 2006 1:56:37 GMT
Post by ariel on Oct 20, 2006 1:56:37 GMT
Does any member perform this at night and/or morning ? If so, have you had problems with the interpretations ? What may be considered to be the right practice may,infact, be the wrong one ! Kind regards, Ariel
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LBRP
Oct 20, 2006 2:21:21 GMT
Post by hollandr on Oct 20, 2006 2:21:21 GMT
Ariel
I would have thought that conducting the LBRP daily was a pretty good way of attracting attention.
As such it might be advisable to have a tyler on the roof to keep an eye out for intruders
Cheers
Russell
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Oct 20, 2006 3:33:03 GMT
Post by maat on Oct 20, 2006 3:33:03 GMT
What is LBRP?
Maat
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imakegarb
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Oct 20, 2006 3:43:39 GMT
Post by imakegarb on Oct 20, 2006 3:43:39 GMT
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Oct 20, 2006 11:19:11 GMT
Post by corab on Oct 20, 2006 11:19:11 GMT
I only use the Invocation part of it for personal shielding purposes, and find it works very well, esp. when adjusted slightly to include your HGA.
As Russell points out, it is an excellent way of attracting attention, and you've got to know what you're doing in order to make sure you attract the right sort of attention.
The LBRP is a very powerful ritual - make sure you know what you're doing before you attempt it.
Cora
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Oct 20, 2006 12:17:11 GMT
Post by taylorsman on Oct 20, 2006 12:17:11 GMT
Wise advice Sister Cora! Too many people muck about with the Occult and get something they didn't bargain for and cannot get rid of. I am very careful what I do down to what words I will pronounce even when in my own home. I shuddered some years ago when one of the companies which sells well known Board Games sold the Ouija Board as a TOY. That to me was like giving a razor sharp kitchen knife or scalpel to kiddies to play with! Thankfully they withdrew it from the market after protests by those who DO understand such matters and when some purchasers complained of strange and unpleasent occurances such as Poltergeist activities in their home after using the Ouija Board. Such items in the hands of those who understand are a useful tool, bur a great danger in the hands of the ignorant.
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Oct 20, 2006 17:10:37 GMT
Post by ariel on Oct 20, 2006 17:10:37 GMT
I most certaintly DO NOT perform LBRP but simply wondered if anyone else does. The ritual is somewhat confusing and can be misleading if a "novice" performs it. It is the last thing I would attempt in my case as I am a very private person and would never "advertise" my beliefs...not that I understand the proper method to use LBRP ! As for the comment on Ouija, I could not agree more. It is certaintly not a TOY. Even when used by adults, the consequences may be dire. I hope I have now made my view clear and I can assure those who have responded to my question, that I would NEVER go beyond anything that is open to forces beyond my comprehension. Kind regards, Ariel
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Oct 21, 2006 3:51:58 GMT
Post by imakegarb on Oct 21, 2006 3:51:58 GMT
I just don't. But I have buds who do ;D
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Oct 21, 2006 8:04:29 GMT
Post by staffs on Oct 21, 2006 8:04:29 GMT
ariel,
i believe that you should be careful with performing this as no doubt the circumstances have to be right initially.
I believe that there may be a forumite (or two) here who may well be able to give you some guidance on this . Hopefully they will log on and see this post.
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Oct 21, 2006 14:43:13 GMT
Post by ariel on Oct 21, 2006 14:43:13 GMT
staffs, As I have already made it clear I DO NOT practice LBRP. I simply wanted to know if anyone else did. Yes,I am a coward...I will not open a door to some unknown force by experimenting with a ritual that I cannot fully understand. Using Kabballah has opened my eyes but has not shut down precautionary measures that need to be taken when it comes to getting deeper into the subject. Rest assured, I know my limitations and I am learning but far from being a master. Who really can claim to ne one ? There are so many interpretations due to translating the exact Hebrew letters to our alphabet and because of the confusion this has caused, a lot of misinformed Kabbalists are attempting LBRP without true knowledge and its implicarions.
Kind regards, Ariel
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Oct 22, 2006 17:37:40 GMT
Post by corab on Oct 22, 2006 17:37:40 GMT
As I have already made it clear I DO NOT practice LBRP. I simply wanted to know if anyone else did. Yes,I am a coward...I will not open a door to some unknown force by experimenting with a ritual that I cannot fully understand. That doesn't make you a coward, Ariel -- it makes you a wise woman who won't push herself beyond boundaries she's not ready to cross. I wish more people had the courage and wisdom to do the same. That is a very good point, and it is the reason why I do not work the full LBRP. I am simply not comfortable performing ritual in a language I do not know. Even the minutest variation in pitch or intonation could significantly alter the formula, and I am just not prepared to go there. Ritual is not something to be taken lightly, whether that is Masonic, Qabalistic or Wiccan ritual. The words used are not *just* words; they have been carefully chosen to bring about exactly the intended effect. The actions carried out are not random; they are carefully designed to support and achieve the desired effect. Movement, sound, light & rhythm are the fundamental building blocks of ritual, and if you change any of them without a solid understanding of ritual and its purpose, your best case scenario is not achieving what you want to achieve; worst case being a result quite contrary to what you had wanted to achieve. Of course there is the more common and intermediate stage of going through the motions without noticing anything whatsoever. No harm done, nothing achieved, nothing got out of it; commonly considered an exercise in futility, and can we get on with it now, please. Seen it countless times, it's boring and meaningless. Mostly harmless, though. Still -- without understanding, how can one hope to control that outcome? One day you just go through the motions, the next you may end up attracting some highly undesirable attention. Is it a surprise some of us regularly see desperate people (mostly teenagers) following a ritual or spell gone wrong. If you don't understand what you're working with, how can you hope to command it? Anyways, I've gone off on a tangent. Main thing is that yes, you're right to be cautious (a good quality in an aspiring Mason!) and no, it doesn't make you a coward. Cora
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Oct 22, 2006 23:49:39 GMT
Post by maat on Oct 22, 2006 23:49:39 GMT
;D If you get yourself into trouble may I recommend the MMBR? Maat's Major Banishing Ritual (for the uninitiated) discovered some few seconds after I saw my ghost. Jesus, make him go away, Buddha, make him go away, Muhammed, make him go away... said with screwed up closed eyes. Pulling the bedsheets over your head might help It worked a treat. Maat
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Oct 23, 2006 4:32:00 GMT
Post by ariel on Oct 23, 2006 4:32:00 GMT
Do ghosts ever stay long enough to give one time to pull the bedsheets over ones head ? On the other hand: an unwelcome one might drop in for a quick "Howdy" and finding someone hiding,might think again before paying another visit ! Is that not the basic "ritual" of the univited...drop in, make the host uncomfortable and disappear before being shooed off ? Now, poltergeists are different: they really know how to make their presence felt ! Kind regards, Ariel
PS: And all this from one who questions the existence of ghosts ... cheeky me !
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Oct 23, 2006 5:14:55 GMT
Post by hollandr on Oct 23, 2006 5:14:55 GMT
>Do ghosts ever stay long enough to give one time to pull the bedsheets over ones head ?
Ariel
While I understand that your question is a bit light-hearted, you might consider what attracts the spirit in the first place. When that is understood one may predict how long it will stay and may even be able to manage the process or alter the entity
Of course the banishing (shooing off) only works if the entity has no right to be there. But often the entity continues to be attracted by the banisher.
I have experienced that with a person who complained about a possessing entity. Unfortunately the deliberate negativity of the person re-invited the entity after every dislodgement.
The negativity was a bit subtle. He was continuing to live where he knew he should not
So there are some interesting prerequisite for the LBRP to work: right livelihood, right relationships, right living place
Cheers
Russell
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Oct 23, 2006 7:50:42 GMT
Post by whistler on Oct 23, 2006 7:50:42 GMT
;D If you get yourself into trouble may I recommend the MMBR? Maat's Major Banishing Ritual (for the uninitiated) discovered some few seconds after I saw my ghost. Jesus, make him go away, Buddha, make him go away, Muhammed, make him go away... said with screwed up closed eyes. Pulling the bedsheets over your head might help It worked a treat. Maat Maat I am sorry I have to comment that is just the wrong way to approach Ghosts, I speak from considerable experience in clearing houses, factories and all sorts of places - In fact my wife and I will be "Ghost Busting" a house in a fortnight. Ghosts are just Spirits - you and I are spirits in a physical body, a ghost just doesn't have a body like ours. When confronted with a Ghost the first thing is to establish why they are showing themselves and then solve their problems. There a a million reasons why a Spirit makes themselves visable - to Cast or drive them away really doesn't solve anything. Maat in your example how would you feel if you had said and done all the things you mention and the Ghost happened to be your Grandfather or Mother coming to say hello, or a friend from overseas who had just died, or simply the spirit of some poor person, whom having died suddenly didn't realize they were dead and were attracted to you by your goodness. - I even know of a lonely young man who at first was most concerned about the regular appearance of a "Ghost" in his bedroom. When he discovered the Ghost was a young man of similar age who had died in a motorcycle accident, This ghost was attracted by the energy of the living young man and just visited for the company. Having discovered who the Ghost was our young man didn't want his ghost moved on and we haven't heard from them since.
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Oct 23, 2006 15:43:36 GMT
Post by ariel on Oct 23, 2006 15:43:36 GMT
Sorry, Russell. I did say I was being cheeky and meant no offence by my innane reply to Maat's funny comment. Kind regards, Ariel
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Oct 24, 2006 0:28:16 GMT
Post by maat on Oct 24, 2006 0:28:16 GMT
Hi Whistler - Yes I quite agree with everything you said. And I have bereted myself since then - but, more importantly, sent help to man in question.
But Hey - gimme a break - it was my very first, eyes wide open, ghost!! Who was looking straight at me ... just an arms length away, literally!
As stated on a previous thread I think I 'caught' him on a hospital run. The good lesson for me was that if we do choose to let our light shine (I was mentally sending Light to each hospital room as I passed through on my way to visit my mother) there are very real outcomes. Really chills me out to think of the negative side of this though.
As a man of some experience in these matters what do you make of the following....
My various cars, over time, have been known to blow their own horn, turn their own lights on when engine is off and no-one in car. I had a lamp which used to turn itself on repeatedly and sometimes street lights go out as I drive past, more often than not, in one specific area. I have just put this down to 'something benign' playing with me - hopefully.... ?
Cheers M-M-M-Maat
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Oct 24, 2006 0:36:40 GMT
Post by maat on Oct 24, 2006 0:36:40 GMT
Whistler - have you come across a diabolical energy in your cleansings and didn't it frighten you just a little?
I watch some shows on haunting and they are usually the bit of a giggle "is there anybody there" sort of stuff - put up jobs for the most I would think. But there is one on cable TV here in Australia at the moment called "A Haunting". I have only watched two and ye gads they frightened the Bj's out of me. Talk about 'dark nights of the soul'. I actually left the light on and looked over my shoulder on the way to bed. May I say I think you are very brave to help out in that way.
I don't know the etiquette on this sort of thing - but if you can, can you tell us a little of your experiences and, as this is the Kabbala thread, relate your experiences to its place on the Tree.
Maat
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Oct 24, 2006 1:13:30 GMT
Post by whistler on Oct 24, 2006 1:13:30 GMT
Maat I will answer in detail later but to answer Whistler - have you come across a diabolical energy in your cleansings and didn't it frighten you just a little?
No Not frighten as such but have certainly come across some difficult situations. The Key is the knowledge and the total trust that one can have with their helpers in spirit - and the knowledge that they will never put you in a situation they know you can't handle.. this knowledge certainly doesn't stop me saying in my mind - " I Hope you guys know what your are doing ;D" - at times - but Spirit will never let you down.
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Oct 24, 2006 2:24:04 GMT
Post by hollandr on Oct 24, 2006 2:24:04 GMT
>can you tell us a little of your experiences
Maat
Here is one of my experiences
I used to live on Cluny Hill in Forres. In the center of the forested hill is an artificial valley called Heldt's Hole after a WWI german prisoner who escaped and hanged himself there
Anyway, there was a path past Heldt's Hole and people used to take it in the dark from one community building to another. One day one of the community complained to me about being frightened on the path and several others confirmed that.
So I went out at night able to see moderately from dappled light on the track reflected off low clouds from the streetlights some distance away.
I came to a junction on the path where there seemed to my physical sight to be a dark cloud moving around. I assessed the energy of the cloud and was confident of my ability to deal with it. I stepped inside the cloud and was surprised to see that I could no longer see any dappled light. The cloud was a thick darkness that blocked the transmission of light. (the darkness thereby was not an absence of light but an entity in its own right)
So I invoked some light forces and sucked energy out of the cloud (entity) through my solar plexus, exhausting the waste energy out of the top of my head. The cloud got smaller and the light on the path was visible again.
Then I put an energy pentagram on the spot where the cloud had been.
Those using the path at night after that seemed happier and I had no more complaints
Cheers
Russell
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