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Post by ariel on Nov 23, 2006 3:28:05 GMT
Even though John Dee was considered to be the Father of modern witchcraft, does anyone have information about his reliance on the Kabbalah in his ritualistic magik ? I do not have have a book about him and would appreciate any suggestions relating to his practices and not about Queen Elizabeth I horoscope Thank you. Ariel
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Post by hollandr on Nov 23, 2006 3:41:48 GMT
I am informed that John Dee resurrected the British treaty with the seagods (britannia rules the waves) in time for the Spanish Armada and long line of naval victories over the centuries
He was very proud of his Hieroglyphic Monad and I would not be surprised if it does not contain kabbalistic structures
Cheers
Russell
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Post by jmd on Nov 23, 2006 6:53:15 GMT
John Dee had one of the most magnificent libraries of his time, and, if I recall, some of Raymond Lully's works, which included Kabalistic references later used by various Lullites and proto-renaissance neo-platonists (such as Pico della Mirandola).
There are a few scholarly works on John Dee that a local University Library is likely to carry - it has been quite a few years since I have read some, and do not recall titles or authors.
I also think, however, that you are unlikely to find 'Kabalah' in the form that might be expected from reading recent developments - and certainly not the form adopted and altered by the GD and its offshoots.
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Post by transcendental on Nov 23, 2006 10:56:11 GMT
It turns out John Dee kept a rather meticulous diary. I happened upon it just earlier this week whilest I was looking over the Project Gutenberg Top 100 EBooks. www.gutenberg.org/etext/19553I've only read bits and pieces of it, but I'm certainly interested in hearing about it if you find anything of note. I first learned of John Dee (around this time last year, actually) when I was researching Angelic language (or Enochian) -- a topic I'm still very interested in.
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Post by hollandr on Nov 23, 2006 12:03:54 GMT
It may hardly be worth saying but the role played by Dee (in the protection of Britain) was not an accident of history but the outworking of a plan and a bloodline relationship dating back millennia
Cheers
Russell
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Post by Liberty on Nov 23, 2006 19:48:30 GMT
Elias Ashmole,(1617-1692) Antiquarian & Freemason, was fascinated with Dee and was able to collect some of his original papers on magik and possibly kabbala. It's been debated as to wether Ashmole may have attempted some of the workings himself.
Ashmole also befriended Dee's son Arthur and spent time interviewing those who knew Dee in his lifetime. He was planning to write a biography of Dee as Ashmole believed that Dee's reputation had been unfairly sullied but never did turning his notes over to another who did write a bio in the 1680's.
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Post by ariel on Nov 23, 2006 23:41:32 GMT
Yes, indeed, the books on JD are very sparse. I can find the usual reference about Dee and Elizabeth I but that is really not enough to quench my thirst. Ashmole would have left us with quite interesting reading, but it was not meant to be.
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Post by giovanni on Nov 24, 2006 19:20:36 GMT
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Post by sid on Nov 24, 2006 21:19:13 GMT
Greetings Giovanni, Dee and others like Khunrath have shown the magnitude of that with which we are dealing. If my understanding and information are correct then his 'Monas' symbol is the axis of the world that is balanced upon the year Anno 1459 (year of the wedding of CR), it is with us always, past, present and future. Perhaps this is presented within the symbolism of Masonry as the point within the circle. Ever present, and like the triangle, ever moving.
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Post by nickma on Dec 14, 2006 16:28:55 GMT
Even though John Dee was considered to be the Father of modern witchcraft
I don't think John Dee had anything to do with witchcraft. He was more of the alchemist/Hermetic type and did a lot with writing up some basis on Enochian Magick.
The only person that would come to mind as being the "father of modern witchcraft" would be Gerald Gardner IMHO.
-Nick
-Nick
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Post by corab on Dec 27, 2006 22:47:22 GMT
The only person that would come to mind as being the "father of modern witchcraft" would be Gerald Gardner IMHO. I think most Trad Witches would disagree with you there. Bro:. Gardner was the founder of Wicca, which contrary to what it may be known as across the pond is not the same a British Traditional Witchcraft. S&F, Cora
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