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Post by atarnaris on Dec 16, 2004 22:55:44 GMT
All... I was encouraged by an Illustrious and Illuminated Brother to start this poll. I hope S.E. does not take offence...
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Post by leonardo on Dec 16, 2004 23:06:37 GMT
I voted Buddha because ultimately we all have the Buddha Nature. It simply needs to be revealed. How is it revealed? We just have to get rid of all our negative emotions and our Buddha Nature will shine brightly.
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Post by staffs on Dec 17, 2004 6:41:37 GMT
Like any good form or poll there is never a
NONE OF THE ABOVE
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Post by taylorsman on Dec 17, 2004 7:19:30 GMT
I'd say Savonarola, and look what happened to him!
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Post by a on Dec 17, 2004 16:45:29 GMT
Andrew
No offence, I find it a little amusing. My wife has been smiling all day about it.
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Post by staffs on Dec 17, 2004 16:48:34 GMT
We have made you both laugh then
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Post by a on Dec 23, 2004 18:59:25 GMT
My wife has asked me to post this.
It has to be Buddha as I have the belly for it. Appologies to any who may be offended by this.
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Post by a on Jan 1, 2005 10:16:36 GMT
A new year a new beginning.
I have contemplated whether to respond further on this thread or not, but on balance thought that the education should outweigh the ego.
Andrew
Your illuminated and illustrious brother clearly has a desire to make people think.
It never ceases to amaze me what some Freemasons think of me. Views that I have been made aware of range from "being scared of me", a false phrophet, through a good selection of those in the poll above, to "the one".
Fortunately I know who I am. It has taken me many years of intense daily internal work to know, but internal work does pay real dividends. And I can tell you beyond shadow of a doubt that I am just a Simple Man.
Yes I believe in reincarnation, both on a physical level on this planet, and spiritually. But I am more concerned with who I am today, and what I can do in this lifetime (however short that may be Steve) than what I may or may not have done in the past.
Leo
I would suggest that you are a very wise man.
Taylorsman
If you believe that this life that we currently live is the only one, then "look what happened to him" could be a serious consequence. If however you believe, as I do, that we are all part of the Divine, that Divine Spark exists in each and every one of us and in each and every thing, then what does it really matter what happens? Everything does happen for a reason, as I am sure (hope) you are coming to realise from your SRIA studies. (Apologies if I misunderstand what SRIA is about).
Staffs
Out of interest what would you have answered if your answer would have been "none of the above"? Please Ignore if you were simply making a moderators comment or you do not wish to answer.
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Post by taylorsman on Jan 1, 2005 11:07:54 GMT
Stewart, I often feel that we are like two computers using different Operating Systems, but I will say that I wish you and your wife, children and your cats, a happy and fulfilling 2005. Whatever it is you are looking for, I hope you either find it or at least get closer to it in this year. Pax tecum.
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Post by a on Jan 1, 2005 12:09:45 GMT
Taylorsman
I have already found what I have been looking for, as I have been saying for some time now.
I just wonder how much more there is to find.
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Post by staffs on Jan 1, 2005 13:42:25 GMT
Stewart,because ; if you are nothing then you must be something.
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Post by leonardo on Jan 2, 2005 23:11:11 GMT
Leo I would suggest that you are a very wise man. Thank you Stewart. Now if only I could get my wife to agree ;D Seriously, I appreciate the comment. I only wish it were true!
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Post by a on Nov 5, 2005 23:05:27 GMT
I have hauld this one up again, not to fuel my ego, but to help Cameron understand that it is not how I see myself that is really this issue with me and Freemasonry, as I know who I am in that regard, but the issue is how Freemasons, like Cameron, and every one else views me.
Consider Cameron, my post above from January this yearFortunately since I wrote to Mr Morrow of UGLE about such comments they have largely stopped, which may be just coincidence.
At the end of the day Cameron, does it really matter who I am, as long as I am actually doing something positive?
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Post by rbartlett on Nov 6, 2005 8:02:55 GMT
I always find the topic of re-incarnation amusing
Why are they always some famous historical figure? Why has no one come out and said "I was Adolph Hitler, Papa Doc or a stillborn or a even cripple"?
Is it to give them some -false- kudos sadly lacking in their present life I wonder??
S&F
Richard
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 6, 2005 8:25:56 GMT
This is the classic put-down to the re-incarnationist. It's always Mary Queen of Scots, not a Scots peasant woman of the same era, Field Marshall Rommel not some lowly private in the Wermacht, a dead Pope not some Parish Priest.
However, there are many cases of people who do claim to have been ordinary, lowly, run of the mill people in a past life and investigation has shown that they have known of people, places, events in far off lands and times past of which they could not have been aware in ordinary circumstances. These however do not make the papers as they are not sensational. Someone claiming to have been Adolf Hitler, or Marilyn Monroe, or Albert Einstein will make the papers but someone saying they were "Mrs Alice Smith", a housewife from Liverpool, will not.
I have an open mind on Re-incarnation as I have on many Religious matters. Too many people in too many diverse and geographically separate cultures over the centuries have believed in it for the idea to be rubbish.
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Post by a on Nov 6, 2005 8:29:21 GMT
Richard
Kudos is something that simply inflates egos. And that is not a good thing. Unfortuantely seeing your own ego is one of the hardest things to do.
Who any of us were in the past, or will be in the future is irrelevant to the present moment in time. What is important is what we, each and every one of us, you, me and everyone else here and everywhere else, do here and now, at this point in time. That is the challenge that faces us.
As I said to Bill on another thread, I could well have been a farmer in a previous life. In this life I am a carer. Someone who many people look down upon for not having a "proper job". That is their problem not mine, for unlike some I do put my family first.
I know from experience that too many Freemasons get what appears to be snooty or embarrised when I tell them that I am a carer, and get all excited and too often business like when I mention that I am a Chartered Accountant, and have other qualifications as well. Speaks volumes.
In this life, I know that I am doing what I can for humanity and this planet, here and now - it took me 40 years to work the meaning of life out. I can do this as a carer. No shame. No embarrisement. No need for ego ehnancing honours of any description. Just plain old me, doing what I can where I can, when I can, through the ups and downs of life, learning as I go.
Anyhow to answer your question I am sure that most people who are genuinely aware of past lives would shy away from the spectacular, and be very content with the mundane. I am sure taht those who are here with more experience in this area will be able to offer more accurate comment.
You see the growth in life does not come from having it easy, and from being the famous person. It comes from doing the work. And that is something even prisoners and mental patients can do.
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 6, 2005 9:58:59 GMT
Crickey, wait till you tell them your Buddha.
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Post by giovanni on Nov 6, 2005 13:06:54 GMT
Stewart,
in my opinion you were Socrates, since your task is to awake consciences.
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Post by a on Nov 6, 2005 14:16:10 GMT
since your task is to awake consciences.
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Post by rbartlett on Nov 6, 2005 19:41:56 GMT
Richard Kudos is something that simply inflates egos. And that is not a good thing. Unfortuantely seeing your own ego is one of the hardest things to do. Who any of us were in the past, or will be in the future is irrelevant to the present moment in time. What is important is what we, each and every one of us, you, me and everyone else here and everywhere else, do here and now, at this point in time. That is the challenge that faces us. As I said to Bill on another thread, I could well have been a farmer in a previous life. In this life I am a carer. Someone who many people look down upon for not having a "proper job". That is their problem not mine, for unlike some I do put my family first. I know from experience that too many Freemasons get what appears to be snooty or embarrised when I tell them that I am a carer, and get all excited and too often business like when I mention that I am a Chartered Accountant, and have other qualifications as well. Speaks volumes. In this life, I know that I am doing what I can for humanity and this planet, here and now - it took me 40 years to work the meaning of life out. I can do this as a carer. No shame. No embarrisement. No need for ego ehnancing honours of any description. Just plain old me, doing what I can where I can, when I can, through the ups and downs of life, learning as I go. Anyhow to answer your question I am sure that most people who are genuinely aware of past lives would shy away from the spectacular, and be very content with the mundane. I am sure taht those who are here with more experience in this area will be able to offer more accurate comment. You see the growth in life does not come from having it easy, and from being the famous person. It comes from doing the work. And that is something even prisoners and mental patients can do. I'm sorry Stewart it seems to me that you are basing your whole argument on a false premise but like to mix in a few 'home truths' in order to smoke screen your way out..some may 'buy it' and good luck to them... S&F Richard
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