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Post by middlepillar on Oct 6, 2005 20:31:14 GMT
I agree with you, Mid, and this topic offers the opportunity to clarify my thought, which I've posted in another thread, "Lawful age". When a man is 18 years old, he MUST think to that thing which the great Saxon word points out as "C..T". He will have time to think to the heuristic spirituality offered by Freemasonry. Italy Is such a romantic Country Thank you for that pearl Gio
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Post by giovanni on Oct 6, 2005 20:32:45 GMT
A great stuff in simple words. This is true esotericism!
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Post by giovanni on Oct 6, 2005 20:38:30 GMT
Mid,
it's not "romantic", but rather "realistic"!
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Post by gladiator on Oct 11, 2005 1:04:10 GMT
I'm 32 and have read the "Trilogy of the Rings" and "The Silmarilian" every summer since I was 18. I never get tired of them. I doubt a 16 year old could even get through the first two chapters of " The Silmarialin", which Tolkien considered his greatest work. I do agree though that comparing Tolkien to Brown was not fair, they are two differnt types of writers. Eric
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Post by hollandr on Oct 11, 2005 1:36:20 GMT
Gladiator
Did you notice that much of the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter were written in the same town. Both series about the same issues - just aimed at different age ranges.
So what is so important about that city?
Cheers
Russell
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Post by ingo on Oct 11, 2005 8:05:25 GMT
fiction authors MUST be interesting. So I go to dinner... ;D
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Post by hollandr on Oct 11, 2005 8:54:20 GMT
>fiction authors MUST be interesting.
Just because it is classified as fiction does not mean that it is so
For example The Ring Cycle deals with the same material as The Lord of the Rings. Many people spend decades travelling the world in search of better performances of The Ring. Surely they do not see it as fiction
Cheers
Russell
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Post by maat on Oct 12, 2005 1:06:27 GMT
Go - Gio!
Leon Uris asked me out three times (when I was young) and I declined. You know it is one of the very few things in my life that I regret.... that opportunity to bask in the glory of a superior mind even if just for a day or two.
Maat
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Post by ingo on Oct 13, 2005 9:35:09 GMT
Russell The Prioriy of Sion-Story is a hoax - or if you are more friendly - it is fiction. If I had the opportunity to meet DB for dinner, I would go there and talk to him with a lot of interest. Maybe this would not be talking, but he would talk and I would listen - why not? Fiction authors are interesting thinkers, even if they write fiction and not about facts. ;D
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Post by giovanni on Oct 13, 2005 10:05:17 GMT
TIME OVER!
I stayed at home, lurking our beloved forum (which is far better than the connerie written by that man.
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Post by hollandr on Oct 13, 2005 22:08:50 GMT
>The Prioriy of Sion-Story is a hoax
Ingo
No doubt there are aspects of disinformation about the organisation. And the Priory of Sion if it exists may be a front just like they said that the Templars were a front or instrument for the Priory.
For myself I found it useful to visit the purported Priory sites. I found more information at those sites and more sites than given in Holy Blood Holy Grail.
So while there are no doubt illusory aspects to the story, my on-ground investigations have demonstrated to me that there is much more to the story than present in the public domain.
There are some parallels perhaps to one of President Bush's first comments on TV after 9/11. As I recall he said something like: I don't want to hear stories of conspiracies.
The same goes for most of Western history
Cheers
Russell
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Post by petertaylor on Oct 14, 2005 8:42:46 GMT
THE REAL HISTORICAL ORIGIN OF THE PRIORY OF SION Paul Smith The President of the 1956 Priory of Sion was André Bonhomme. André Bonhomme was one of the four founding members of the Priory of Sion in Annemasse in 1956, along with Pierre Plantard. He is tired of being harassed by inquiries about the nature of the association and doesn't want any publicity – he refuses to be interviewed on television or on radio. He doesn't understand where people get the idea that the Priory was anything other than what it was – just a small club of friends. This was the statement he made to the BBC in 1996: "The Priory of Sion doesn't exist anymore. We were never involved in any activities of a political nature. It was four friends who came together to have fun. We called ourselves the Priory of Sion because there was a mountain by the same name close-by. I haven't seen Pierre Plantard in over 20 years and I don't know what he's up to but he always had a great imagination. I don't know why people try to make such a big thing out of nothing." And to quote French Researcher Jean-Luc Chaumeil from his 1994 book ‘The Table Of Isis, Part 2, The Templars Of The Apocalypse: The Message Of A Sacred Enigma - Tales, Legends And Myths Of Rennes-le-Chateau’: "Finally, the Priory of Sion was created in 1956. We were able to contact former members of this office, who all burst out laughing when we mentioned Rennes-le-Château. According to its former President, the association was at the time a "club for boy scouts" and NOTHING MORE….!" And from the BBC 2 Timewatch documentary The History of a Mystery (1996): "There's no evidence for a Priory of Sion until the 1950s; to find it, you go to the little town of St-Julien. Under French Law every new club or association must register itself with the Authorities, and that's why there's a dossier here showing that a Priory of Sion filed the proper forms in 1956. According to a founding member, this eccentric association took its name not from Jerusalem, but from a nearby mountain (Col du Mont Sion Alt. 786 m). The dossier also notes that the Priory's self-styled Grand Master Pierre Plantard, who is central to this story, has done time in jail." Pierre Plantard was sentenced on 17 December 1953 by the court of St Julien-en-Genevois to 6 months in prison for breaking the French Law relating to "Abus de Confiance" (fraud and embezzlement). The evidence for this is found in a letter written by the Mayor of Annemasse in 1956 to the Sub-Prefect of St Julien-en-Genevois, which can be found in the File that contains the 1956 Statutes of the Priory of Sion and the 1956 Registration Documents of the Priory of Sion. "...in our archives we have a note from the I.N.S.S.E dated 15 December 1954 advising us that Monsieur Pierre Plantard was sentenced on 17 December 1953 by the court in St. Julien-en-Genevois to six months imprisonment for a ‘breach of trust’ under articles 406 and 408 of the Penal Code." Articles 406 and 408 of the old-style Penal Code correspond to Articles 314-1, 314-2 and 314-3 of the present Penal Code. These articles are classified in Book III of the Code, ‘Crimes and offences against property’ – theft, extortion, blackmail, fraud, and embezzlement. The Official Judicial Archives relating to Pierre Plantard’s criminal convictions and prison sentences are to be found in the Tribunal de Grande Instance de Thonon-les-Bains (this being the information as provided by Le Directeur des Archives départementales de la Haute-Savoie in the town of Annecy).
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Post by hollandr on Oct 14, 2005 10:40:22 GMT
>There's no evidence for a Priory of Sion until the 1950s
And there is no evidence for Masonry until the 18th century.
And there is no evidence for the existence of TGAOTU
Do I detect a pattern
Perhaps materialistic historicism is not always the best method of investigation.
>Monsieur Pierre Plantard was sentenced on 17 December 1953 by the court in St. Julien-en-Genevois
Perhaps I am naive, but I have yet to be assured that jailing of people is direct proof of their worthlessness.
Cheers
Russell
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Post by leonardo on Oct 17, 2005 13:34:12 GMT
>Monsieur Pierre Plantard was sentenced on 17 December 1953 by the court in St. Julien-en-Genevois Perhaps I am naive, but I have yet to be assured that jailing of people is direct proof of their worthlessness. Cheers Russell True. Nelson Mandala being a case in point.
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Post by george2807 on Mar 22, 2006 17:56:39 GMT
I'd rather keep my appointment with Michael Baigent
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Post by ingo on Mar 23, 2006 9:52:31 GMT
Russell: And there is no evidence for Masonry until the 18th century Oh, there is evidence for Masonry until the 17th century!! Even co-masonic.
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Post by corab on Mar 27, 2006 21:16:28 GMT
Go, and tell him writing is about more than using a done-to-death and predictable formula and making vast amounts of money! (Says the aspiring novellist who has yet to publish her work ...)
Cora
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Post by ruffashlar on Mar 28, 2006 4:17:59 GMT
Sure, I'd go have lunch with the guy - and then spend the entire meal deliberately pretending to confuse him with Dan G Brown of the School of Natural Resources and Environment at the University of Michigan.
He'd probably relish the feeling of being ignored, the sensation ordinary people have every day.
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Post by leonardo on Mar 28, 2006 13:03:01 GMT
He'd probably relish the feeling of being ignored, the sensation ordinary people have every day. Very profound. Sometime we "ordinary" folk do take our anonymity for granted. Imagine what it must be like not to be able to go into the likes of Tesco. Perhaps Tesco is not a good example, but ................ Incidentally, our local cinema already has the posters up for the Da Vinci movie Won't be long now.
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Post by ruffashlar on Mar 29, 2006 9:33:49 GMT
we "ordinary" folk do take our anonymity for granted.
I wouldn't know. I can't tell you how many times I've been "recognised" in the street.
You see, I have one of those faces. Or, more precisely, one of those backs-of-the-head, which being attached to a six-foot-two frame seems to make me instantly famous. Unfortunately, never for anything I've done.
(Well, I tell a lie: I was once recognised by a furniture salesman as the cartoonist of an obscure comic-strip, but that's more bizarre than famous.)
No, more typically, people say, "I saw you at the bar in The Mop and Bucket on Saturday, sipping a pink gin."
Sorry, pal, it wisnae me.
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