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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 15, 2007 5:13:38 GMT
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 15, 2007 5:14:37 GMT
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 15, 2007 5:22:53 GMT
It is IMO much more ancient than even that.
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Post by penfold on Aug 15, 2007 8:05:42 GMT
More ancient than the big bang?
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Post by thedixiemason on Aug 15, 2007 16:00:23 GMT
No, I was saying it is more ancient than the Roman empire....(in support of JMD's post)
According to the Bible, Cain was the first "operative mason" I tend to believe that Adam and Eve might have been the first "speculative masons" seeing how they wore "aprons"
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Y Mahomed
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Post by Y Mahomed on Sept 4, 2007 18:39:52 GMT
No, I was saying it is more ancient than the Roman empire....(in support of JMD's post) According to the Bible, Cain was the first "operative mason" I tend to believe that Adam and Eve might have been the first "speculative masons" seeing how they wore "aprons" I seem to believe that it's all a test ... like a tele Ad ... you with me?
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Post by negredo on Oct 12, 2007 5:12:19 GMT
I would peg the stirrings of modern accepted and speculative Freemasonry at about the mid 1600's.
The ideas it contains, like a vessel, are archetypal to our race as humans; they come from our consciousness and our relationship with the divine. Yet, be careful: these ideas are not exclusive to Freemasonry, nor are they an indicator that Freemasonry existed in ancient days. For, as history will show, Freemasonry is the inheritor of spiritual and intellectual ideas--including modern times, such as the concept of Free Will. So, it is both ancient and modern.
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