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Post by Stash on Nov 12, 2004 6:05:24 GMT
I wonder how history would have progressed differently had our language from our race's beginning always been the same....so that all forms of communication are congruent with each other, allowing far less meani9ng to be lost.
Random Thought.
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Post by whistler on Nov 12, 2004 17:41:00 GMT
I wonder how history would have progressed differently had our language from our race's beginning always been the same....so that all forms of communication are congruent with each other, allowing far less meaning to be lost. Random Thought. When you trace back the language, you find the movement of peoples, which shows how stupid and destructive National Pride can be - trace your genes back 10 generations and you have 1024 grand parents, that gives you plenty of opportunity to claim nationality to a lot of places In my personal case on just one family thead I could Claim, Scottish, English, Canadian, Mexican, Australian South African - Makes the word indigenous a bit tricky _ Do the same exercise on each of the 1024 grandparents ....Yeh well
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Post by ruffashlar on Nov 13, 2004 10:28:06 GMT
Go back far enough, and everyone on Earth is related to everyone else - and it doesn't have to be as far back as you think. The human race actually has quite a small gene pool: it's thought that there must have been a humungous disaster in Africa about a half a million years ago, because considering how long we've been on the planet, there really ought to be gazillions of us.
That considered, think about how differently even the young and old speak from one another. Then, how differently people from either side of a river speak. Scale it up to opposite ends of a city, or opposite sides of an island. Add isolation and differing vocabularies - farmers have different words from fishermen - and it doesn't take long to see how easily language can distort and mutate, even over fairly short distances.
Now come right down to the closest of human relationships, like friendships and marriages. How easy it is to cause breakups between friends or spouses, because two people speaking the same tongue misinterpreted words spoken hastily, or perhaps understood them only too well.
Babel is an ongoing process we cannot help but take part in: we each of us ferry away its bricks, a pebble here and there every day.
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Post by staffs on Nov 13, 2004 11:08:01 GMT
Excellent thought provoking post Ruff !!
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Post by leonardo on Nov 13, 2004 18:45:03 GMT
Yes Lee, it is very interseting. It's a subject close to my heart. May I please recommend a great book that deal with a lot of the stuff Ruff brought up and more. It "The Ancestor's Tale" by Richard Dawkins. Its sub title is "A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Life". This book, for me at least, shows how we are all connected. Thoroughly researched and well put together. Can be checked out at www.orionbooks.co.uk/search-results.aspx?SW=Y
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Post by staffs on Nov 13, 2004 19:03:59 GMT
Are you thinking about using the books thread board or did you get lost ?? ;D ;D
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Post by Seeker on Nov 13, 2004 19:57:25 GMT
Are you thinking about using the books thread board or did you get lost ?? ;D ;D OK Mod Got yer Drift Check out the Book Thread....
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Post by leonardo on Nov 14, 2004 10:21:42 GMT
Lee, Soor about that. Got a bit carried away. HYFM
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Post by adder on Nov 14, 2004 21:42:25 GMT
Hey Leo, On the subject of languages; Can you rocka Romani, Can you puv a gri, Can you suv a racklie Like an old didakai? (don't tell'em) ;D ;D ;D
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Post by leonardo on Nov 14, 2004 22:46:14 GMT
Adder, bethemaul uneseek. Feen a-nasha'll corrib yerdee.
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Post by Seeker on Nov 15, 2004 5:18:47 GMT
Hey Leo, On the subject of languages; Can you rocka Romani, Can you puv a gri, Can you suv a racklie Like an old didakai? (don't tell'em) ;D ;D ;D Adder How did you discover the words of the 33rd Degree
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Post by Hubert (N. Z.) on Nov 15, 2004 7:48:19 GMT
Regarding languages:
There was a time the opening chorus line of the "Student Prince" (a Musical) began thus - "Come boys let's all be gay boys" - a drinking song at a pub. well that no longer holds true.
Similarly The Bible has many incorrect translations from the Greek into English, but then who initially translated such for it's own ends.
Notwithstanding that, even the translations are taken out of context with the time in which they were written.Eg - "the Virgin Birth"
In Hebrew custom of 2000 odd years ago a Jewish woman married twice - once before conception and then again after proof of the ability to provide a healthy issue. In general parlance of the day she was considered a virgin untill that second marriage!
There are numerous other examples in most "Holy" books -even alchemical books - and that does not allow for deliberate hiding of the facts - similar in fact to that which we do in the Craft.
So the only way to come to the TRUTH is to do ones' own investigation and share it with those who are of similar bent.
But it all makes for stimulating correspondence.
WHGW, Hubert
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