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Post by palmereldritch on May 16, 2007 3:13:32 GMT
I recently switched to being a vegetarian...is that something that would be awkward in Masonry? I just remember a masonry podcast mentioning a pig roast - I'm not sure I could even attend something like that, much less eat there, but I wouldn't want to make my brothers uncomfortable.
Is anyone else here vegetarian or know anyone vegetarian in (co or regular) masonry?
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Post by Tamrin on May 16, 2007 5:15:07 GMT
For the last decade of my Masonic career I had been a vegetarian. I found there were a few awkward moments. Mostly these were due to very kind hearted Brethren making special chicken or fish dishes just for me, not realising I consider these to be meat. I am not, however, a vegan and personally consider it is too much to expect others to bear in mind exactly where one chooses to be on the vegetarian spectrum. Perhaps you should become known for bringing along your own snack, so Brethren do not fret and think they have to make anything especially for you.
There are usually vegetables or salads served and my understanding is that there are more vegetarians in Co-Masonry than in the 'Male Craft,' where I was very much an exception.
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Post by waynecowley on May 16, 2007 7:41:00 GMT
The few vegetarians I have met in Masonry usually have no problem at the FB so long as they tell their host when visiting away from their own lodge as arrangements can easily be made. Obviously, in their own lodge their preference would be known and taken account of.
Welcome to the forum by the way
Wayne
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Post by penfold on May 16, 2007 9:23:13 GMT
I recently switched to being a vegetarian...is that something that would be awkward in Masonry? I just remember a masonry podcast mentioning a pig roast - I'm not sure I could even attend something like that, much less eat there, but I wouldn't want to make my brothers uncomfortable. Is anyone else here vegetarian or know anyone vegetarian in (co or regular) masonry? Erm, no it wouldnt be an issue - it should be remembered the eating and drinking bit of freemasonry isn't really the masonry bit - it is more the cement than the stone.....
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Post by leonardo on May 16, 2007 17:41:10 GMT
I was a veggie for about ten years but decided to return to eating meat when I came to the realisation that there's nothing nicer that a juicy piece of steak or roast chicken Life is too short to waste it on vegetables. IMHO.
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Post by giovanni on May 16, 2007 18:12:47 GMT
Mah, it's a matter related to age, I think. When I was young I could eat everything with no problems, now I cannot do that any longer. I can eat meat only at noon. Meat contains proteins and I don't need them any longer. My body requests vegetables, cheese and fish, so I presume it needs them. In any case I still eat meat, I like the Italian mixed boiled meat very much. BTW, do you know why Mr. Prodi's nickname is Mortadella? Because this kind of sausages is made for half by donkey and for another half by pig!
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Post by windtimber on May 16, 2007 18:24:49 GMT
I recently switched to being a vegetarian...is that something that would be awkward in Masonry? Nah. We've got several brothers who have unique dietary preferences. One guy likes food so bland that white latex paint would be tastier. There's another guy who categorically refuses to eat any vegetables at all. They just scoop stuff to the side of the plate or have dinner someplace else - but still join us for fellowship and conversation. Just don't make a big deal out of it. As Mark Twain wrote, "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." In Masonry it's the inner, not the outer, man that is important...not what we put in to the man! Sorry, couldn't resist that.
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Post by giovanni on May 16, 2007 19:25:12 GMT
Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' " Mark 7:14-15 * * * Bro. Windtimber, you gave me an useful clue: thanks.
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Post by leonardo on May 16, 2007 19:33:13 GMT
Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' " Mark 7:14-15 * * * Bro. Windtimber, you gave me an useful clue: thanks. So where does this leave the old saying, "what goes in goes out" ?
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Post by giovanni on May 16, 2007 19:36:41 GMT
Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' " Mark 7:14-15 * * * Bro. Windtimber, you gave me an useful clue: thanks. So where does this leave the old saying, "what goes in goes out" ? what goes in (the stomach) goes out (in the toilet). If it doesn't, it's a problem!
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Post by leonardo on May 16, 2007 19:47:06 GMT
Yes, if you are talking about food. My remarks were more metaphorical
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Post by giovanni on May 16, 2007 20:05:17 GMT
Are you still believing that eso- and exotericism are quite separated?
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Post by imakegarb on May 16, 2007 20:26:06 GMT
No issue in any Obedience I know of. In mine, the menus at the annual conferences (there are three a year at the GL) are all vegetarian so there doesn't need to be two sets of meals prepared. So all eat well ;D
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Post by leonardo on May 16, 2007 21:03:49 GMT
Are you still believing that eso- and exotericism are quite separated? Now we are talking my language. The quintessentially correct response would be to deal with the paradoxical equivalent in a deeper context
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Post by jmd on May 17, 2007 4:12:31 GMT
That depends!
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Post by leonardo on May 17, 2007 6:31:31 GMT
That's right
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Post by lauderdale on Aug 23, 2007 10:27:20 GMT
I am very tolerant of other's dietary requirements and when I was Secretary of an UGLE Lodge I had to arrange meals for Vegetarians, Diabetics, Halal, Kosher, Lactose Intolerance and Coeliac, (not all at once I must add). Now that is not a problem to a decent caterer.
What I DO object very strongly indeed is the tendency of some Vegetarians and Vegans to ram their preferences down other meat eating people's throats and to assume a "Holier than Though" attitude. I have met a few like that in my time. If they do not wish to eat meat that is fine by me, but I have an equal right to be carnivorous. In fact I don't eat many vegetables at all as I don't like them and some indeed, cabbage, sprouts etc, actually upset my digestion. I consider such Veggie Bigots to be as out of order in for example insisting that no meat be served at a Festive Board as it would be for a carnivore such as myself to fail to provide a Veggie alternative for those who wished it.
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Post by bod on Aug 23, 2007 10:38:34 GMT
Biggots and fanatics who refuse to pay respect to another's view point are always a pain. Doesn't matter what they are pro or anti they're refusal to agree to disagree irritates in the extreme
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Post by tws on Aug 23, 2007 12:44:51 GMT
I love fresh veggies from the garden. My parents and my in-laws both keep big gardens, so we are usually well supplied. But, I have to have my meat. I had roast beef, potatoes, and carrots last night, which simmered all day in the slow-cooker. The beef just falls apart when you touch it with a fork. Yum!
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Post by imakegarb on Aug 23, 2007 14:11:32 GMT
When the BF, who is a veggan, and I, who am sooooo not , go to a restaurant, I often will order steak, he will order the salad. When the waiter/waitress brings our meals, nine times out of ten, s/he will put the salad down in front of me and the steak down in front of him. Makes for a giggle while we switch Now, occasionally, he will tell me about the horrors of eating meat. I listen politely and then say something like "I eat meat". And that's that.
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