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Post by maat on Feb 7, 2008 3:15:57 GMT
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Post by maximus on Feb 7, 2008 8:38:01 GMT
Now listen here Maxi-mus - you leave my mate Zacharia alone or I'll have to smite or smote you or something... I first heard the word sitchin in a dream and followed up on it, this led me to.... The Twelfth Planet folks, is one of my all time favourites! I have the Twelfth Planet, as well as the others in the Earth Chronicles series. Keep in mind, however, that Sumerologists and experts in Sumerian language have major problems with Zach's interpretations. He is a Semitic Languages professor, and is basing his interpretations on what he believes are the similarities between the two. He is not, however, an expert in Sumerian. And, he is saying "suppose the stories are true." What if they are not? They could well be allegorical. Keep in mind as well that he, and others that expouse the extra-terrestrial intervention idea, are supposing that humankind does not possess the inate intelligence to have achieved our current level of civilization without direct outside intervention. I disagree with this at a fundamental level. I find it more likely that we have been on this planet a lot longer than current science is willing to give us credit for. I believe, and anomolous evidence shows ( See: www.mcremo.com/ ), that we have reached a high technological level in the distant past, and that the knowledge has been all but lost due to natural disaster. Think about our current technology. If there were a major planetary disaster, such as a cometary strike, how long would we retain knowledge of what we now have? Within two generations, the world of today will be legend, within five, myth. A major cometary strike or asteroid impact in the oceans, causing worldwide flooding, would wipe most evidence we were here from the face of the earth. Our civilization is much more fragile than we realise.
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Post by hollandr on Feb 7, 2008 10:52:58 GMT
>that we have reached a high technological level in the distant past,
Quite so
And if some of the native peoples retained written or oral records of that time would we put any credibility in those accounts?
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Post by Tamrin on Feb 7, 2008 11:01:02 GMT
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Post by lauderdale on Feb 7, 2008 11:28:11 GMT
There is a concept called the "Lambda Theory" which states that in the past Humanity has reached a state of Civilisation and Scientific advance similar to the present and possibly even further than now but some disaster either natural "Deus ex Machina" or precipitated by the Technology. e.g. massive adverse change to the climate, explosion of some mega-weapon or energy producing device, or civil commotion as a backlash against some action. e.g cloning of Human Beings has wrecked the situation and what is left of Humanity after such a cataclysm has regressed to a stone age level and the long and slow climb back to the previous advanced state takes millennia. The name Lambda is based on the shape of the Greek Letter, a long slope upwards then a precipitous decline.
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Post by leonardo on Feb 7, 2008 12:46:12 GMT
Think about our current technology. If there were a major planetary disaster, such as a cometary strike, how long would we retain knowledge of what we now have? Within two generations, the world of today will be legend, within five, myth. A major cometary strike or asteroid impact in the oceans, causing worldwide flooding, would wipe most evidence we were here from the face of the earth. Our civilization is much more fragile than we realise. It is a frightening thought, , more so because it could actually happen!
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Post by maat on Feb 7, 2008 23:08:39 GMT
Scientists know something catastrophic has happened in the past because the sands in lots of desert areas had been turned to glass. They agree that such a thing could be caused by meteorites but some scientists remain curious as to how these areas occur all over the globe and in places where there are no craters. They have considered that is may be evidence of a nuclear type war happening in the past. Remember Sodom and Gomorrah. The bible does refer to a war in the heavens.. " And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." The bible also refers to shining beings in association with Sodom and Gomorrah (weren't they being abused? how does one abuse and angel?). Shining beings associated with virgin and old age births of VERY superior children. Shining beings all over the place when you pay attention to them. They may not necessarily have been the assumed heavenly variety. The light (another shining being?) led the the Jews around a very small desert for 40 years (just enough time to build up the superior stock and keep the bloodline/genetics pure/uncontaminated. Too far fetched? Why did the Pharaoh decree that all male Hebrew infants are to be drowned at birth? (For that matter why did another shining being, referred to as the Angel of Death, sweep in to town and in one night kill all first borns?) Just had a thought (oh no)... Have you noticed the anomoly? Today if someone tells you they have seen a shining being or an angel, you would probably assume that the person was a tad nutty. And today if someone tells you that the shining beings or some of the angels reported in the bible stories maybe had flesh and blood, or the extraterrestial (heaven is extraterrestial) makeup, you would probably assume that the person was a tad nutty. Maat
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Post by maat on Feb 7, 2008 23:38:31 GMT
But then again we have this great story, which I have just come across.. "About half of the city's population i.e. some 500,000 people were woken up by the violence of this explosive and seismic wave event. The ground vibration wave was picked up by the A.G.S.O. Mundaring Seismic observatory as a paper analogue recording lasting some two minutes timed at 17.57utc i.e. commencing at 1.57am W.A. time. www.tmgnow.com/repository/secret/brightskies.html(a jolly good read) I seem to remember stories of something similar being reported in assoc with the Columbia disaster. Maat
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Post by maat on Feb 7, 2008 23:46:23 GMT
Thinking of becoming a freemason? I just realised in which section we are having this unusual conversation. For all you possible future masons, in my mind Masonry is all about building a better future physically, morally, spiritually by seeking out hints and clues on how to do this from every area of knowledge available, and not taking the status quo as 'gospel' - we must be adventurous in thought as well as deed. Maat
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Post by maat on Feb 8, 2008 0:33:40 GMT
Found the Ferdie piece on the Shadow and have posted in on Russell's "Are Our Thoughts Our Own?" thread.... fits in really well there.
Maat
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Post by maat on Feb 29, 2008 2:29:47 GMT
ah-huh... Found this in the newspaper today... STUDY PREDICTS "PLANET X" TOKYO: Scientists at a Japanese university said yesterday they believed another planet up to two-thirds the size of Earth was orbiting in the far reaches of the solar system. The researchers at Kove University in western Japan said theoretical calculations using computer simulations led them to conclude it was only a matter of time before the mysterious Planet X was found. "The possibility is high that a yet unknown, planet-class celestial body, measuring 30 per cent to 70 per cent of the Earth's mass, exists in the outer edges of the solar system," Kobe University researchers said. "If research is conducted on a wide scale, the planet is likely to be discovered in less than 10 years." The research will be published in the April issue of the Astronomical Journal. The study comes two years after scientists declared Pluto was no longer a true planet. -AFP Maat
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Post by Tamrin on Feb 29, 2008 3:13:00 GMT
Another planet would not surprise me. But why would one suggest Planet X would necessarily equate with Sitchin's Nibiru? One might as well expect a new life form will sooner or later be discovered and suggest it must necessarily be a unicorn?
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