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Post by devoutfreemason on Dec 19, 2007 18:56:53 GMT
I would appreciate it if you would live up to your word in another thread and stop posting in my direction. Thanks, Brad Brad, ..... you really cannot see that I am SUPPORTING "irregular" and "clandestine" masons in this instant? Perhaps instead of seeking to be offended by one and all, you might .... maybe, READ the post? I am speaking out here against the regular masons that would try to force other masons, through bullying tactics, NOT acknowledge non regular masons as brothers. Take breath dude. You give those "regular masons that would try to force other masons, through bullying tactics" an open platform to do this. At the same time those that stands up to these actions are quickly banned. IMHO that hardley qualifies as support.
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Post by lauderdale on Dec 19, 2007 20:16:41 GMT
Bro Devoutfreemason. I am always wary of those who say they are supporting me or something I believe in when I know from past and other experience that not to be the case. Better by far those that say "I am totally against you and what you stand for!" perhaps in more robust language than that, than the one who pumps out all the twaddle about disagreeing but defending your right to your opinion etc.
I prefer to know my enemy than to be confused by the "false friend".
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Post by therondunn on Dec 19, 2007 20:19:03 GMT
Really? You might have missed that on LRUS EVERYONE gets a voice to say what he wants. Until they become insulting, then they are banned. The good news is we have only banned five people in the last five years. Unfortunately, you were one of them.
You might therefore have missed our efforts to rein in the personal insults and other unacceptable behaviors against non regular masons ON THAT VERY FORUM. We have not banned anyone that stands up to them, Ask David C, who is the former Grand Secretary of the United Grand Lodge of America, and who was a mod. As Revealer, who is and has been a mod since day one, and is not even a mason, or ask Brandt, who is a member of Euclid Lodge.
The whole issue lately at LRUS has been the abuse of those people by a few masons. We have even gone so far as to restrict posts on that one divisive issue to a single sub forum, which is not even accessible to the general membership or public now (well, you might have missed it for that reason) and which has, as a result, spilled over onto this forum, Golden State Masons, The Three Pillars and other forums.
We don't just ban people. We even gave you several chances before finally banning you permanently. You may not see it as support, but Art (JewBelow) Peterson sees the refuge and freedom LRUS gives to non regular masons as too much support.
Different men, different points of view. It is unlikely that anyone will ever make every man in the world happy at once.
no point in even trying.
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Post by devoutfreemason on Dec 19, 2007 20:30:42 GMT
Really? You might have missed that on LRUS EVERYONE gets a voice to say what he wants. Until they become insulting, then they are banned. The good news is we have only banned five people in the last five years. Unfortunately, you were one of them. You might therefore have missed our efforts to rein in the personal insults and other unacceptable behaviors against non regular masons ON THAT VERY FORUM. We have not banned anyone that stands up to them, Ask David C, who is the former Grand Secretary of the United Grand Lodge of America, and who was a mod. As Revealer, who is and has been a mod since day one, and is not even a mason, or ask Brandt, who is a member of Euclid Lodge. The whole issue lately at LRUS has been the abuse of those people by a few masons. We have even gone so far as to restrict posts on that one divisive issue to a single sub forum, which is not even accessible to the general membership or public now (well, you might have missed it for that reason) and which has, as a result, spilled over onto this forum, Golden State Masons, The Three Pillars and other forums. We don't just ban people. We even gave you several chances before finally banning you permanently. You may not see it as support, but Art (JewBelow) Peterson sees the refuge and freedom LRUS gives to non regular masons as too much support. Different men, different points of view. It is unlikely that anyone will ever make every man in the world happy at once. no point in even trying. I was not warned before being banned. The second time I was not attacking anyone, yet being bombarded with attacks. Your mod Gregg even stated that I was not banned for anything I did, I was banned "just because." Great. Tons of brotherly love and support I am sure.
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Post by imakegarb on Dec 19, 2007 20:30:48 GMT
Bro. Steve, Bro. Theron, Bro. Brad . . .
MFOL has a standing policy about not badmouthing other forums. It is not done here. Period.
This talk is coming very, very close to that. All of you are discussing action taken on another forum. And are coming very, very close to debating here what happened there.
Don't.
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Post by tws on Dec 19, 2007 20:37:04 GMT
This issue does not need to be brought here. It just kills the spirit.
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Post by lauderdale on Dec 19, 2007 23:44:04 GMT
I think even the author is fed up with this thread now and I have run out of "monkey gags".
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Post by Tamrin on Jan 4, 2008 9:16:09 GMT
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Post by 2 BOWL CAIN on Jan 4, 2008 11:29:21 GMT
Cost of coitus: Male monkeys pay for sex
1 day ago
PARIS (AFP) — Selling sex is said to be humankind's oldest profession but it may have deep evolutionary roots, according to a study into our primate cousins which found that male macaques pay for intercourse by using grooming as a currency.
Michael Gumert of Nanyang Technological University in Singapore made the discovery in a 20-month investigation into 50 long-tailed macaques in Kalimantan Tengah, Indonesia, New Scientist reports on Saturday.
On average, females had sex 1.5 times per hour.
But this rate jumped to 3.5 times per hour immediately after the female had been groomed by a male -- and her partner of choice was likely to be the hunky monkey that did the grooming.
Market forces also acted on the value of the transaction.
If there were several females in the area, the cost of buying sex would drop dramatically -- a male could "buy" a female for just eight minutes of nit-picking.
But if there were no females around, he would have to groom for up to 16 minutes before sex was offered.
The work supports the theory that biological market forces can explain social behaviour, the British weekly says.
"There is a very well-known mix of economic and mating markets in the human species itself," said Ronald Noe of France's University of Strasbourg.
"There are many examples of rich old men getting young attractive ladies."
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