Over the last Six Months i have acquired 3 silver hallstone jewels on e bay. One for each of my sons for when i am squaring the lodge above.
These were obtained on the basis that one day they may well be valuable collectors items and also that they remember my interest in masonry.
So GOLD it needs to be........BUT i do like that big one at the grand lodge museum of which it is the only one ever made.
The Provincial ones with the enamelling on are also quite nice too...but if i ever happened to come across one of these or the hall lodge jewel it would have to be returned to its lodge or be handed over for Reg Burrows to display in one of the many display stands at TheSussex Masonic Center.
The present Freemasons' Hall is the third hall to be built on the Great Queens Street Site. It was financed by individual subscription, through the Masonic Million Memorial fund that raised over £1 million, the sum need to build the Hall. The sums were raised after WWI.
For 10 guineas you got an individual Hall Stone Jewel (HSJ). For 100 guineas an individual HSJ.
Between 50,000 to 54,000 individual HSJs were issued. If all the members in the lodge got an HSJ the WM received the Lodge HSJ. If lodges subscribed an average of £500 the DGM/PGM got a District or Provincial HSJ.
1321 lodges in the UK and abroad qualified for Lodge HSJs. 2 Districts and 1 Province qualified for the District & Provincial HSJ of which only one is legitimately worn, by the PGM for Bucks. Japan and Burma are now defunct.
Somewhere on another thread there is a picture of the jewels.
You will find a picture on this page with information and if you click on pages 1 and 3 you will get more info.
My Lodge has a Hallstone Jewel and when I had it round my neck, as master I checked it for insurance purposes and was told it gold value was around £ 2,500. so a good profit there over the years. Mind you that was an insurance estimate, so its probably worth about half that.
I wish I did have one - nearest I've got is in a friend's lodge when the WMs of the other Hallstone Lodges in our province get together and you get to see 3 in a row
PM Hamlet of Van Lodge 8334 UGLE (Caerphilly - South Wales); J Hamlet of Van Chapter 8334 SW, Caerffili MMM 1348; PCN, Caerffili RAM 1348; St Teilo Chapter A&AR 789 Brangwyn SRIA 75; Castell Caerffili OSM 466; Fforest KT 582: Merthyr Tydfil R&SM 120, Penychen - Athelstan 53, RCC 295; KTP 100; OSC 21 TI
You will need to take care regarding the criteria that you use. There are a number of lodges that have been erased. More recently, following a change in the Book of Constitutions, some have amalgamated with other lodges and my database aims to reflect this.
It is in Excel, but given the size of the number of lodges now you may want to consider creating the database in Access, if you possess such an application. Excel will do but it will be a large spreadsheet with a number of workbooks in it.
I estimate that there are some 8500 or so active lodges in UGLE of which, circa 7000 are in the UK.
Some Provincial Lodges do list all of the lodges (and Chapters) and where appropriate the Side orders on their website. The list in some instances included lodges that are closed. (Surrey for example).
But this in not the complete picture as you will have a number of gaps in your database where lodges have closed (after the 1834 enumeration) or they have transferred to another newly formed Grand Lodge, or they have transferred from a Grand Lodge to UGLE.
In time I think that MetGL will have a database of all its Lodges and Chapters in existence on the web.
It is possible to download information from the web into Excel. By doing this it may be possible to interrogate all the Provincial websites and build up a database that way but it is a very time consuming process. The Hall Stone Jewel Database took me a long time to populate and a number of visits to the Hall in GQS!
I have such a database in Excel if you want to contact me on the back burner
Bill Trinity Lodge, No. 254 (UGLE) We've toasted the Queen and Officers a score; We shall toast them again as we've toasted them before, But still there is left us a Good Toast more, And it's - "Trinity! Trinity! 254!!!"
Post by billmcelligott on Jan 16, 2006 22:26:59 GMT
I think you have to be careful of which Hall Medal ?
I found this In 1787 the Lodge was granted the "Hall Medal" by subscribing £25 towards the building of the first Masonic Hall. In all, 26 Lodges received the Medal and of these it is believed no more than 14 are now in existence. It is worn suspended below the Square forming part of the Worshipful Master's Jewel, attached to the Master's Collar. The Lodge also possesses the Hall Stone Lodge Medal received in 1926 in recognition of its subscription towards building the present Freemasons Hall, and is worn suspended by a collaret from the Worshipful Master's neck. thelodgeofharmony255.org.uk/
It would seem that the originals may well be sort after ?
Having heard many times the presentation of the Masters Hall Stone jewel, I certainly cant agree with the comment "the reason is that the emphasis as to why these jewels were issued has now long gone"
From the Presentation:- The wearing of that jewell by the master of the Lodge fulfils a double purpose, First it provides visible evidence that the Lodge has faithfully and conscientiously discharged its obligations to the Fraternity.
Bill McElligott [PPGASwdB - PPGASoj] firstname.lastname@example.org - skype: lodgeroomint The Masonic Brotherhood of The Blue Forget-Me-Not
While, you are correct in what you say, to a point, but in the thread, we are IMHO talking about the Hall Stone Jewel as subscribed to by the individual members, who, as we all know on payment of 10 guineas say received the individual members HSJ, basic model!
Neither was I talking about the Hall Medal, which is a different jewel entirely, nor are my comments directed to the Masters HSJ.
Incidentally the Hall Medal detail, you have made a very good narrative of, and I think from an educational point of view the information would be of value to other members of the forum. Also one could start off a new thread on.
Not all the Hall Medals are worn in the way you detail. In one lodge the WM has the medal suspended from a collarette worn around his neck.
As such my comments were directed solely at the individual members HSJ, and not the Masters HSJ.
WHY? Well because I do not believe that there is anybody alive today that is entitled to wear one. Hence they have sadly, become collectors items, that we see frequently on eBay, in antique shops etc. IMHO
sbs59: Can someone help me with this question. I was a Master Mason for 4 years until last year. My father died and i left the Masons as i was depressed about his death. Can i now re join a lodge?
May 21, 2019 10:07:41 GMT
The Ancient: sbs59: Were you suspended for non payment of dues? if so, square up and petition the lodge for a restatement vote. If your dues are current, your still a member. In this case, it is all about the Benjamins.
May 27, 2019 0:49:07 GMT