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Post by antoninus9 on Nov 17, 2007 0:53:25 GMT
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Post by brandt on Nov 17, 2007 0:55:17 GMT
Viva la liberté, viva la Euclid
Brandt
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 17, 2007 1:02:40 GMT
That would not be the Brandt Smith of Euclid Lodge would it. The piece does have an interesting paragraph which has a number of interpretations. What do the members think that the phrase "Temple made not with hands" means.
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Post by brandt on Nov 17, 2007 1:22:11 GMT
Brother Bill, Yes, my dear Brother, it is me. Let the chips fall where they may. Free-Masonry is more important than any self-important administrative bodies. Just to let you know, this costing me a great deal personally. But rules are more important than Masons ;-) (I hope that you get that joke). Brother Bill, I want you to know that I have always respected you and I particularly respect the manner in which you try to make peace. "Blessed are the peace makers because they will be known as the sons of God." You and VTMason in particular I find to be some of the most solid Brothers out there. Please continue your work, I look forward to the day that we can build together. I also have news of a potential Co-Masonic lodge in Grand Rapids lodge developing.
viva la liberté Fraternally, Brandt
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Post by brandt on Nov 17, 2007 1:24:13 GMT
I am terribly sorry. I did not answer your question Brother. The "Temple made not with hands" is, in our humble opinion is the whole of our civil society and civilization. We have great works ahead of us, and I do mean us.
Brandt
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 17, 2007 1:49:14 GMT
I agree the world would be a more boring place without VT.
You will find VT and myself shoulder to shoulder with you to build a better Freemasonry, so long as it is for all and not a select few.
I agree the journey ahead is full of wonders to behold.
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 17, 2007 1:50:58 GMT
But back to my question: Here are some snips of info to get the little grey cells working. The Temple Not Made With Hands by W.C. Lanyon www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1889870005/ref=sib_dp_pt/105-4584635-6454835#Review By Jerry O This is an excellent endeavor to describe that which can only be known by experience, the spiritual senses as the extension of our physical senses, seeing, hearing, tasting, touching, and smelling. Mr. Lanyon describes how these spiritual senses are used to come into an intimate relationship with our heavenly Father through Christ Jesus and how these senses recognize the Presence of the Holy One. Mark 14 : 58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands. Beneath the north wall of the Old City of Jerusalem, close to the Damascus Gate, is a cave opening leading to huge subterranean limestone quarries. This is the place were the rocks for King Solomon's Temple originate from. The quarries extend north from the Temple area to the hill on which Jesus Christ was crucified. From the entrance, the main path leads south for nearly 225m untill it reaches the main chamber called The Freemasons Hall. From this hall a tunnel leads east to the dripping spring and the lowest place of the cave. The underground quarry explains what is written in the Bible: no sound of metallic tools was heard at the building site of the Temple. If the stones were dressed underground, no noise would have reached the Temple site. Obviously this site has close connections to masonry, as it produced the stones of one of the most important buildings of mankind. This might have been a reason for Dr. Robert Morris, Past Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Kentucky, to direct a Secret Monitor Ceremony in the Cave of Zedekiah. He was a lawyer and educator from Boston, Massachusetts. This is the simple reason why the main chamber is called The Freemasons Hall. www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/9991/quarries.htmlThe stones were hewn from a quarry and brought to the Temple: And the temple, when it was being built, was built with stone finished at the quarry, so that no hammer or chisel or any iron tool was heard in the temple while it was being built. (1 Kings 6:7) Bro. Brandt please say if you want this split off from the thread. it is a very interesting piece of history to look at.
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Post by brandt on Nov 17, 2007 2:12:09 GMT
Brother Bill, You and I are not that far apart. If you ever make it over here to good ole US of A I will buy your a few rounds. If I ever go to Merry Olde again I will buy you several rounds of that "horrible" warm beer you gents drink. You have always been a fine contributor this forum and the several others that you are involved in.
To the Glory of Free-Masonry Universal
Brandt
Brandt
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Post by antoninus9 on Nov 17, 2007 2:14:25 GMT
Bro. Bill's a good guy in my book too. I'll buy him a few more rounds. :-)
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 17, 2007 2:55:51 GMT
Why is it everyone who wants to buy me a Beer is 6,000 miles away.
Your always welcome to drop in here. I have cold beers don't worry.
I had Theron and Giovanni at my House last month, we had a great few days. Mike came over and talked with Gio for a few hours.
Brother Andrew dropped in earlier in the year. Its a kind of 'Masonic way station' at my house.
Thats what is needed an international meet up.
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Post by antoninus9 on Nov 17, 2007 4:22:09 GMT
Let's do it! An international meet-up. :-)
How about another ale brother Bill? We're all celebrating here in the USA tonight.
Jeff
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Post by lauderdale on Nov 17, 2007 9:00:44 GMT
"that "horrible" warm beer you gents drink. "
Bro Brandt, I don't drink that vile swill which tastes as if it has been through someone's bladder once before! YEUCH! Give me a nice chilled Lager any day, or some of your American beers. Warm "Bitter" is an English drink, most Scots such as myself drink chilled Lager.
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Post by brandt on Nov 17, 2007 11:58:44 GMT
That is why you are a civilized man.
Brandt
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Post by imakegarb on Nov 17, 2007 17:24:39 GMT
"that "horrible" warm beer you gents drink. "Bro Brandt, I don't drink that vile swill which tastes as if it has been through someone's bladder once before! YEUCH! Give me a nice chilled Lager any day, or some of your American beers. Warm "Bitter" is an English drink, most Scots such as myself drink chilled Lager. Hmmmmm. USAirways is cautioning me about bringing some of the microbrews that are most highly prized here in the NW US. Still . . . if I do bring a six pack, or two, will you try one or two or six? And I'm looking forward to sampling some of the brews over there. And . . . (idea) . . . Bro. Cora already has suggested a "Matrix" movie night. Maybe we could do a beer tasting ;D
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Post by devoutfreemason on Nov 17, 2007 18:16:24 GMT
I used to be an ale and microbrew (ale) fan, but not so much anymore. My taste is now firmly in the German (Munich specifically) helles style. HB Original in particular.
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Post by tws on Nov 17, 2007 19:37:34 GMT
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Post by imakegarb on Nov 17, 2007 20:03:17 GMT
I still like Sam Adams (there's a dude by that name running for mayor in Portland). However, after my raising, I now have an especial appreciation for Deschutes brews, In particular, uh, this one. It's a seasonal brew (and that season is now) that I like rather a lot. I mean to bring some with me. I (little smile) hope it knocks no one flat.
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Post by Bettendorf on Nov 17, 2007 20:12:57 GMT
Youre like my mirror image tws. But Sam Adams is even better from the tap, still Ive always got a shelf in my fridge reserved for his excellencies 12 oz. bottles. And Karen, do you prefer Widmer's or Henry Weinhard's Hefeweizen? Ive got to be the heretic, because I much prefer Weinhard's even though Widmer is always the one on tap. I get the impression that the timing of these break away Lodges doing so is coordinated. Making sure to post blogs on the internet so it is known is part of the coordination. It makes the case that an agenda that is not being disclosed to those not involved is, well, obvious. Not that it is a bad thing, but it sure gets me thinking.
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Post by imakegarb on Nov 17, 2007 21:40:49 GMT
Karen, do you prefer Widmer's or Henry Weinhard's Hefeweizen? Ive got to be the heretic, because I much prefer Weinhard's even though Widmer is always the one on tap. Widmer. But I'll be watching developments as they merge with Red Hook. I'm wary of the effect the two craft brewers will have on each other Indeed
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Post by brandt on Nov 17, 2007 22:10:54 GMT
hmm, do we need a beer thread? Next month Euclid Lodge is having a "Lodge of Instruction" to enlighten the Brethren of Euclid Lodge on chemistry aka beer brewing. One of our Brothers is welled skilled in the art of brewing beer. His last batch will be finished once we gather to start his next batch. We will be able to sample his last batch off of the same recipe that we will be learning to brew. That my dear brothers is light added to comining light.
TWS, I am still doing God's work, worry not. There are things more important than all of us. Your advice is well taken.
Brandt
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