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Post by whistler on Nov 21, 2007 7:59:05 GMT
Over 95 percent of DNA has largely unknown function That 95 percent of Junk could provide interest
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Post by leonardo on Nov 21, 2007 8:49:05 GMT
And 95 % of what some people say makes no sense, at all
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 21, 2007 10:54:28 GMT
Yes but my 5% is really good.
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Post by hollandr on Nov 21, 2007 11:04:27 GMT
It turns out that the DNA molecule is only double helix for part of the time while it thrashes through various geometries therefore exposing additional functional groups
Thus the 95% junk may be functional and awaiting a spatial arrangement that allows it to become active
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Post by penfold on Nov 21, 2007 11:10:02 GMT
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Post by leonardo on Nov 21, 2007 11:32:15 GMT
Yes but my 5% is really good. Is this in the, "even a broken clock is right twice a day" bracket
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Post by whistler on Nov 21, 2007 17:43:20 GMT
It turns out that the DNA molecule is only double helix for part of the time while it thrashes through various geometries therefore exposing additional functional groups Thus the 95% junk may be functional and awaiting a spatial arrangement that allows it to become activeRussell Isn't it a perfect example of the arrogance of many, just because we can't work out what it does we call it "JunK." With the brilliant complexity of life I certainly think that 95% is functional now - sure I don't know what those functions are - you may be correct about the awaiting a spatial arrangement - though I feel they are probably active now and change according to demands. BTW in the Junk theme - I suspect for many Freemasons there is much Junk an Masonic Ritual HGW
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Post by maat on Nov 22, 2007 0:30:57 GMT
though I feel they are probably active now and change according to demands. If Edgar Cayce and Emoto are correct (plus many others) - it is mind which changes DNA. There was an excellent article in the most recent issue of Nexus Mag about this. Maat
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Post by vtmason on Nov 22, 2007 12:59:21 GMT
Yes but my 5% is really good. You keep telling yourself that old man
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 22, 2007 15:58:03 GMT
No body loves me, I even get put down by a bobblehead.
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Post by whistler on Nov 22, 2007 19:35:12 GMT
though I feel they are probably active now and change according to demands. If Edgar Cayce and Emoto are correct (plus many others) - it is mind which changes DNA. There was an excellent article in the most recent issue of Nexus Mag about this. Maat Maat - need to decide what "mind" is perhaps it is the complete "I am" Sure it is possible for DNA to change - Interesting to note that there is electric current within our DNA as there is in the Cosmos -
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Post by penfold on Nov 22, 2007 20:00:28 GMT
And throughout our bodies
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Post by maat on Nov 22, 2007 23:01:18 GMT
Maat - need to decide what "mind" is perhaps it is the complete "I am" Sure it is possible for DNA to change - This is not the article I was referring to, I will post on that later when I have time, but this is about the Placebo Effect: The Triumph of Mind over Body - and well worth reading! "the placebo effect is not a fraudulent, useless or malevolent phenomenon. It occurs independently of the intentions of charlatans or health professionals. It is a spontaneous, authentic and very factual phenomenon that refers to well-observed but uninterpreted and contingent therapies or health improvements that occur in the absence of an active chemical/pharmacological substance. " Read on: www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/PlaceboEffect.htmlMaat
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Post by Antonius on Nov 26, 2007 10:02:47 GMT
what about the idea of DNA memory? people who get donor organs sometimes claim to have knowledge and memories of the donor...
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 26, 2007 10:22:59 GMT
what about the idea of DNA memory? people who get donor organs sometimes claim to have knowledge and memories of the donor... I have read that some synapses are found in the heart, which interact with the many in the brain.
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Post by maat on Nov 29, 2007 23:36:56 GMT
From the original hidden mysteries thread..... UNIVERSAL IMAGES and DNA “It is not a widely known fact that Francis Crick was under the influence of LSD when he discovered the double helix structure of DNA and that this supreme achievement of scientific rationalism, for which he won the Nobel Prize, came to him in an altered state of consciousness.” So says Graham Hancock in an interview recently re his new book Supernatural wherein, among other topics, he explores the mystery of supposedly non-real experiences that appear to be shared universally by all human being. He concludes that there are two possibilities that may go some way to explain the answer to this mystery. “One is that the brain is fundamentally a receiver of consciousness, not simply a generator of consciousness. To function in the everyday world, our brains have to be set at a certain wavelength, and have to stay pretty much tuned in to that wavelength, like a TV set tuned into a channel. But a variety of means exist (most of them long ago harnessed and exploited by shamans) by which we can change the receiver wavelength of our brains and pick up other realities which are not normally present in our daily perceptions, but are in fact there. So we can read other dimensions that way, not through some sort of mechanistic fantasy of 21st century technology, but simply through retuning our consciousness. Until his death in 2004 Crick remained an atheist, deeply committed to the materialist (i.e. non-spiritual) view of reality. Nevertheless he was unable to accept that the DNA molecule could have assembled itself by accident. So he came up to the idea that perhaps life originated on Earth this way: Perhaps billions of years ago on the other side of the galaxy, doomed by a supernova, some ancient alien civilisation sought to preserve its DNA, and he suggests that bacteria – perhaps with genetically engineered DNA inside them – were sent out into the Universe in spaceships. Eventually one of those ships crashed into early Earth, and the bacteria containing that DNA began to reproduce, and the whole story of evolution as our scientist tell it started there. Once we have the DNA, evolution becomes plausible. Until we have the DNA, it’s difficult to explain. But if his explanation has anything to it, then it may be the case that DNA carries more than just genetic instructions. 97% of DNA we don’t know what it does – scientists call it ‘junk DNA’. …solid scientific evidence that reveals an intriguing linguistic structure in junk DNA. It may also be that we can only access these messages in altered state of consciousness. So these are the elements of the second possibility I pursue: That we may see these universal images because they are stored in the stretches of DNA that all humans share, and that they are in a sense messages to us from our creator – whoever our creator was. …The scenario favoured by materialists that the DNA molecule could have assembled itself by accident out of any imaginable ‘primeval soup’ has been rightly described as about as likely as a Boeing 767 being assembled in perfect working order by a hurricane in a junkyard. And this is what bothered Crick – this amazing statistical improbability – not because he came to it from a religious point of view, but because he came to it from a scientific point of view. Extract: Dawn Magazine Jan-Feb ’06 – The Supernatural World of Graham Hancock. For those of you who are interested in Rosslyn Chapel - have you noted the similarity of the Apprentice’ Column to the DNA molecule? Maat
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Post by maat on Nov 29, 2007 23:46:48 GMT
NOW COME TORSION FIELDS By Hal Fox From: NEN, Vol. 5, No. 11, Mar. 1998, p. 1. New Energy News (NEN) copyright 1998 by Fusion Information Center, Inc. The Wright brothers, Goddard, Edison, Pons & Fleischmann and many others had two things in common: First, they were leaders in their fields (they had few, if any, peers) and second, they had detractors. Not only detractors, but highly-educated, professional detractors. These critics were experts anxious to demonstrate their superior knowledge that heavier-than-air craft were impractical, that rocket ships could not fly in a vacuum ("nothing to push against"); light bulbs were not practical; and low-energy nuclear reactions were not possible. Now come Torsion Fields and the skeptics and the detractors will have a field day! Torsion fields have been studied by several groups of Russian scientists for at least three decades and most of that time in secret. What are torsion fields? According to A. Akimov, these fields come in at least three types: E-fields, S-fields, and G-fields. The E, S, and G stand for Electric, Spin, and Gravity fields. The torsion field and its emanations are subtle energy fields. They are separate and distinct from classical Electric, Magnetic, and Gravity fields. Read the full article on the link below. twm.co.nz/Torsion_Fox.htmMaat
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 30, 2007 7:33:08 GMT
Nevertheless he was unable to accept that the DNA molecule could have assembled itself by accident. So he came up to the idea that perhaps life originated on Earth this way: Perhaps billions of years ago on the other side of the galaxy, doomed by a supernova, some ancient alien civilisation sought to preserve its DNA, and he suggests that bacteria – perhaps with genetically engineered DNA inside them – were sent out into the Universe in spaceships. Eventually one of those ships crashed into early Earth, and the bacteria containing that DNA began to reproduce, and the whole story of evolution as our scientist tell it started there. Once we have the DNA, evolution becomes plausible. Until we have the DNA, it’s difficult to explain. This "explanation" only begs the question: How was the aliens' DNA assembled?
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Post by Antonius on Nov 30, 2007 11:39:07 GMT
not bacteria, that wouldnt work.
the one thing that can surive space travel fungus spores. they have a shell harder then diamond, and their boyancy allows planetary entry without any problems.
as i understand it the first, and so far only organism to be brought to space unintentionaly that is worth noting is the fungus that gave the MIR so much trouble.
also we humans have more geneticly in common with mushroom then we do with plants. the mushrooms in tern have more in common with us then with plants.
fungus is the single most powerfull biodegrading agent on the plant. for instance: oister mushrooms can eat, and actualy seem to loove the taste of motor oil and other petrochemical compounds. there even some talk about the possibility of using fungus to break down radiactive material. and what a mushroom leaves behind, what it turns all these nasty things into, is healthy soil. so if anything has the potential to seed life on this planet, its fungus.
actualy if my assumption is right that the 'hyperdimentional physics' hoagland claims to have discovered are realy the same thing as torsion fields... well hoagland claims to have a toy built as a demonstration of anti gravty. its a top that hangs in midair above a box.
the answer would beg the question who created the aliens. seems like that question is one of infinite regress.
i submit that the holo universe theory is the only possible solution to infinite regress.
the vertigo model of reality: physical reality is a big telescope that is bent almost into a full circle an ourt conciousness is in the gap between the small lens and big lens. we can look at either direction (miscoscopes or telescopes), but what we look at is the same thing in either direction: the self.
if reality is a hologram, then inner space and outer space are realy one and the same thing.
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Post by willied77 on Jan 1, 2008 4:44:33 GMT
Maybe Outerspace is within us and outside us at the same time???
E.G Russian Dolls.
Could it be that it has an effect similar to the one shown as the last scene in MIB2?
As above, As below......
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