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Post by hollandr on Jul 25, 2008 22:01:58 GMT
I dare say most have seen this: "Aliens have contacted humans several times but governments have hidden the truth for 60 years, the sixth man to walk on the moon has claimed. Apollo 14 astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell, said he was aware of many UFO visits to Earth during his career with NASA but each one was covered up." www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1037471/Apollo-14-astronaut-claims-aliens-HAVE-contact--covered-60-years.htmlSince the earliest records of the human race tell of many visits this cannot be much of a surprise to most of us. I wonder if any Masonic rituals refer to visits from star beings
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 25, 2008 22:23:46 GMT
Mitchell is not exactly an unbiased source and, anyway, he is not 100% sure of his claims. We read: Mitchell's interests include consciousness and paranormal phenomena. During the Apollo 14 flight he conducted private ESP experiments with his friends on Earth. In early 1973, he founded the nonprofit Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) to conduct and sponsor research into areas that mainstream science has found unproductive, including consciousness research and psychic events.
Mitchell says that a teenage remote healer who lives in Vancouver and uses the pseudonym Adam Dreamhealer, helped heal him of kidney cancer at a distance. Mitchell said that while he never had a biopsy (the definitive test for cancer), "I had a sonogram and MRI that was consistent with renal carcinoma." Adam worked (distantly) on Mitchell from December of 2003 until June of 2004, when the "irregularity was gone and we haven't seen it since."
Mitchell has publicly expressed his opinions that he is "90 per cent sure that many of the thousands of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, recorded since the 1940s, belong to visitors from other planets".
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Post by imakegarb on Jul 26, 2008 2:07:10 GMT
It's good of them to call ahead
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Post by whistler on Jul 26, 2008 11:31:17 GMT
I wonder if any Masonic rituals refer to visits from star beings Of course they do just look at the Constellation on the 1st Degree Tracing board -
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Post by hollandr on Jul 26, 2008 11:38:48 GMT
>look at the Constellation on the 1st Degree Tracing board
And which constellation would that be?
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Post by lauderdale on Jul 26, 2008 12:00:43 GMT
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 26, 2008 15:10:23 GMT
I wonder if any Masonic rituals refer to visits from star beings Of course they do just look at the Constellation on the 1st Degree Tracing board -Of course, Tracing Boards were unknown until the late Eighteenth Century and, of course, there was great diversity until Harris in the Nineteenth Century. Not exactly Ancient Masonry!? BTW, Seven Stars were emblematic of the Seven Churches of Asia ( Revelations, 1:20 & 2&3: passim): Their symbolism was thought to be especially important within some groups, including the Albigensians, who denied the exclusive authority of the Roman Church and who traced their origins to "the East." Waldensian Emblem Their motto means, A Light Shining in the Darkness
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Post by imakegarb on Jul 26, 2008 17:29:51 GMT
Tracing boards have been around, in other forms, since darn near the beginning of modern Freemasonry. It started with drawings on the floor the candidate was required to clean up afterward. Then they went to floor cloths that got rolled up afterward. Then they went to boards. The Kirkwell teaching scroll may well be one of our oldest examples.
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 26, 2008 21:01:29 GMT
Emphasis added: Tracing boards have been around, in other forms, since darn near the beginning of modern Freemasonry. It started with drawings on the floor the candidate was required to clean up afterward. Then they went to floor cloths that got rolled up afterward. Then they went to boards.
The Kirkwell teaching scroll may well be one of our oldest examples. I'm sorry, but, "in other forms," does not a TB make. Nor does, "darn near the beginning of modern Freemasonry," an ancient tradition make. Even as Floor Cloths, usage does not predate Desaguliers' eighteenth century rewrite of the rituals (introduced in the 1720s), see History of Tracing Boards and Floor Cloths. I also note the aide-mémoire to which you kindly draw our attention, the Kirkwall Scroll, has text from the King James Bible and features the Antients' Coat of Arms, placing limits to any dates.
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Post by hollandr on Jul 26, 2008 22:39:39 GMT
>The Pleiades or Seven Sisters? That is a good answer but I note that technically it is a cluster within the constellation of Taurus From the TBs displayed here freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/gmd1999/tb_history01.html and following pages, the depictions of stars can be seen generally to be: - a cluster with no other point of reference - possibly a reference to the Pleiades cluster - a circle or smooth curve around the Moon - probably the 7 traditional sacred planets on the ecliptic - an irregular arrangement around the Moon - generally bearing a passing resemblance to the pot-handle or box-lid arrangement of the Pleiades. Both interpretations find us 7 Masons whose presence makes a lodge perfect: - the logoi of the 7 sacred planets (7 spirits before the throne of God in the Revelation of St John) - the logoi of the 7 Sisters (brides of the 7 Rishis of the Great Bear) But it is rare for even one of them to visit most lodges that I have known. Interestingly the beehive can be related in various ways to the Pleiades - the most obvious is that Alcyone (the queen who destroys evil) is associated with Merope (bee-face)
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Post by Tamrin on Jul 26, 2008 23:10:16 GMT
>The Pleiades or Seven Sisters?
That is a good answer but I note that technically it is a cluster within the constellation of Taurus
From the TBs displayed here freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/gmd1999/tb_history01.html and following pages, the depictions of stars can be seen generally to be:
- a cluster with no other point of reference - possibly a reference to the Pleiades cluster - a circle or smooth curve around the Moon - probably the 7 traditional sacred planets on the ecliptic - an irregular arrangement around the Moon - generally bearing a passing resemblance to the pot-handle or box-lid arrangement of the Pleiades.
Both interpretations find us 7 Masons whose presence makes a lodge perfect:
- the logoi of the 7 sacred planets (7 spirits before the throne of God in the Revelation of St John) - the logoi of the 7 Sisters (brides of the 7 Rishis of the Great Bear)
But it is rare for even one of them to visit most lodges that I have known.
Interestingly the beehive can be related in various ways to the Pleiades - the most obvious is that Alcyone (the queen who destroys evil) is associated with Merope (bee-face) I thought you had moved on to the inconsistent (and equally unnecessary) Canopus proposition. >So perhaps the plumb line in the lodge is used to veil some cosmic truth which is the subject of "stony silence"
>it demonstrates that Bro. Russell is now cleaving to an opinion he had not previously held, despite confidently asserting his former, incompatible opinion. What next?
What next indeed? Hopefully, crediting humans with the ability to advance themselves, without need of alien intervention.
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Post by whistler on Jul 26, 2008 23:31:33 GMT
I wonder if any Masonic rituals refer to visits from star beings Of course they do just look at the Constellation on the 1st Degree Tracing board - The history for the tracing board is not relevant - Freemasonry is the guardian of many 'Hidden Wisdom's" an example of this is that the Pleiades appears on the 1st Degree Tracing board in 2007. there are millions of stars and constellations that could appear there - but it is Pleiades, which has interesting significance as the December equinox of 2010 approaches.
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Post by hollandr on Jul 27, 2008 0:32:14 GMT
>I thought you had moved on to the inconsistent (and equally unnecessary) Canopus proposition. I think you may have confused me with the writer of the web page from which I quoted. Nevertheless if the matter interests you, you may learn much from the Canopus in Argos Archives www.amazon.com/Canopus-Argos-Archives-Doris-Lessing/dp/0679741844
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Post by maat on Jul 28, 2008 23:41:35 GMT
If dixiemason is still visiting occasionally, maybe he could set us straight. Edgar Mitchell is his friend, neighbour and is/was a fellow Bro in the Craft if my memory serves me right.
Check out the following threads:
Zero Point The Lost Word The Cosmic Language
Maat
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Post by synchronicity on Jul 29, 2008 9:27:23 GMT
Yes, Edgar Mitchell is no stranger to controversy, but this does not mean he's to be dismissed out of hand. Among other things, he is an exponent of the Quantum Hologram theory. You can read some articles by him on his website: www.edmitchellapollo14.com/articles.htm The one entitled Nature's Mind: the Quantum Hologram is particularly interesting. To return to the main topic of this thread, here is a fuller statement of his views on UFO's: www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc533.htm
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Post by maat on Jul 30, 2008 0:36:54 GMT
Quantum Hologram is saying the same thing as William Walker Atkinson (1862 - 1932) who, in1906, used the phrase in his New Thought Movement book,Thought Vibration or the Law of Attraction in the Thought World. Atkinson was a student of Hinduism and wrote over100 books on religious, spiritual, and occult topics.
Quantum Hologram and the Law of Attraction goes a long way to explaining how, by improving ourselves and the way we think (masonically), we really do change the entire world and everything in it for the better.
Co-masonically, we say we 'work for the perfection of humanity'.
My thoughts have an effect on yours Be scared, be very very scared ;D
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Post by synchronicity on Jul 30, 2008 11:17:06 GMT
Quantum Hologram is saying the same thing as William Walker Atkinson (1862 - 1932) who, in1906, used the phrase in his New Thought Movement book,Thought Vibration or the Law of Attraction in the Thought World. Atkinson was a student of Hinduism and wrote over100 books on religious, spiritual, and occult topics. Quantum Hologram and the Law of Attraction goes a long way to explaining how, by improving ourselves and the way we think (masonically), we really do change the entire world and everything in it for the better. Co-masonically, we say we 'work for the perfection of humanity'. My thoughts have an effect on yours Be scared, be very very scared ;D Maat Maat, I am not scared, I am delighted! WW Atkinson's book Thought Vibration is a great favourite of mine, and I do believe New Thought hit the nail on the head on many important topics, and what it missed you can probably find in Huna. William Walker Atkinson December 5, 1862 - November 22, 1932 More info on him at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_Atkinson
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Post by hollandr on Jul 31, 2008 2:40:55 GMT
>I wonder if any Masonic rituals refer to visits from star beings
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Post by maximus on Aug 1, 2008 1:47:40 GMT
>I wonder if any Masonic rituals refer to visits from star beings Er...no.
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Post by hollandr on Aug 1, 2008 1:58:19 GMT
>Er...no.
Try 18th
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