Post by astraia on Aug 19, 2008 2:07:29 GMT
Astraia
You must not let Tamrin Bog you down - He is an Australian - that just makes him a little different -
He uses much bigger words than I can be bothered with.
He often strays far from his Song Line. Just let him be.
My answer to you is quite simple. Within our Masonry we have Freemasons - very good masons at that. Who do not see anything in Freemasonry other than things they can see with their own eye, or hear with their own ears. Most of them would see Freemasonry beginning from guilds etc.That is their right and I accept that.
Others see and are aware of many things that are unseen in our lodges.
So some of us seeing a person sitting in the SW's pedestal.
Others may see a person overshadowed by an Angelic Being sittting in the SW's Pedestal.
Each are entitled to their beliefs - as we are all FREEmasons.
Esoteric Freemasonry bit is just a simple generic word to use when talking about the unseen goings on.
If you want my personal view there is no such thing as Esoteric Freemasonry I wonder why some are not aware of the visitors and energies that appear when we open our lodge - they are not esoteric they are a reality.
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You must not let Tamrin Bog you down - He is an Australian - that just makes him a little different -
He uses much bigger words than I can be bothered with.
He often strays far from his Song Line. Just let him be.
My answer to you is quite simple. Within our Masonry we have Freemasons - very good masons at that. Who do not see anything in Freemasonry other than things they can see with their own eye, or hear with their own ears. Most of them would see Freemasonry beginning from guilds etc.That is their right and I accept that.
Others see and are aware of many things that are unseen in our lodges.
So some of us seeing a person sitting in the SW's pedestal.
Others may see a person overshadowed by an Angelic Being sittting in the SW's Pedestal.
Each are entitled to their beliefs - as we are all FREEmasons.
Esoteric Freemasonry bit is just a simple generic word to use when talking about the unseen goings on.
If you want my personal view there is no such thing as Esoteric Freemasonry I wonder why some are not aware of the visitors and energies that appear when we open our lodge - they are not esoteric they are a reality.
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Whistler, γειά και χαρά και σε σένα, (health and happiness to you too!) - I agree wholeheartedly with much of what you had to say there.
As I said (ad nauseam) I find it useful to use a particular perspective to intellectualise certain ideas that are indeed incommunicable in their essence, and so I figured it might be useful to others, especially Paul who seems to be looking to understand something which is relatively new to him. I get frustrated when I then have to justify (ad nauseam) my choice of words or reasons for doing so. Especially when the medium (words on a page) isn't conducive to letting others know your intentions or the background to what is being said without writing reams that will undoubtedly bore everyone to tears.
At any rate I apologise too much so I think I'll stop now. Indeed it is a personal and individual matter for each of us.... that is after all supposed to be the magic of it, is it not?
IMHO
there is no such thing as Esoteric Freemasonry I wonder why some are not aware of the visitors and energies that appear when we open our lodge - they are not esoteric they are a reality.