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Post by billmcelligott on Sept 3, 2008 6:21:42 GMT
Aaagh, you can't beat a bit of intellectual humour.
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Post by synchronicity on Oct 15, 2008 14:35:50 GMT
;D Re: we stupid people - I'd like to say a word on our behalf ... or rather Robert Collier would ... from his marvellous book The Secret of the AgesThat's a wonderful book, Maat. Perhaps even better is the collection thet goes under the title Riches Within Your Reach, also by Collier. For more info, see here: www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0912576138/ref=sib_dp_ptu#reader-link
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Post by ruffashlar on Feb 23, 2009 17:52:44 GMT
Aaagh, you can't beat a bit of intellectual humour.
Indeed, and 'twould have been nice had we had some ;D
Atlantis was legend by the time Homer mentions it
Homer never mentions it. It's Plato who does. Twice: in Critias, and again in his Republic.
[...] the name of the Atlantic Ocean (or "Ocean of the Atlanteans") that derives from that of Atlantis, and not vice-versa
That isn't true. The ocean, the African mountains, the mythical island and the Atlantids of legend all derive from the figure of Atlas, a Titan who was punished by having to hold up the heavens on his shoulders. Whatever Herodotus might say - he isn't exactly the king of the first-hand accounts, you know.
Sometimes a myth is just a myth.
There's a bit of a misunderstanding here. A myth is a story that isn't literally true but which explains something in a poetic or fairytale kind of way. Like, for example, the story about Joshua blowing his horn and making the walls of Jericho come tumbling down. As we now know, the city of Jericho never had any walls, and the story only existed to explain for its contemporary audience how a city of such antiquity happened not to have walls. But the myth isn't wrong, it's just not literally and factually true.
So, if Atlantis is a myth, it has to be interpreted rather than just simply believed.
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Post by maximus on Feb 23, 2009 18:46:18 GMT
Sometimes a myth is just a myth.There's a bit of a misunderstanding here. A myth is a story that isn't literally true but which explains something in a poetic or fairytale kind of way. Like, for example, the story about Joshua blowing his horn and making the walls of Jericho come tumbling down. As we now know, the city of Jericho never had any walls, and the story only existed to explain for its contemporary audience how a city of such antiquity happened not to have walls. But the myth isn't wrong, it's just not literally and factually true. So, if Atlantis is a myth, it has to be interpreted rather than just simply believed. There's a bit of a misunderstanding here. Some people believe anything they read or hear, or interpret ancient myth as literal truth, a la Zahariah Sitchin. I know what a myth is.
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Post by maat on Feb 24, 2009 3:05:16 GMT
We all do. It's deciding which is what that is the interesting bit. Jesus - myth? Temple of Solomon - myth? Troy - WAS a myth.
Maat
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Post by ruffashlar on Feb 26, 2009 20:23:37 GMT
I know what a myth is.Well, that's good. Now, what's a robber button? Actually, I wasn't just being pedantic. A lot of people think a myth is the old belief that you can't get pregnant if you have sex standing up. Often the same people who believe the world was made in six days. Can anyone see a pattern here?
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Post by maat on Mar 31, 2009 5:39:20 GMT
Just read that Sth America's ancient name was Atlanta - related to the Quechua word for copper 'antis'.
We have already had posts on the wonderful Crystal Caves in Copper Canyon, and crystals are tied up in the Atlantis story ??
This is new to me, must follow up on it. Book is by J M Allen, Atlantis: The Andes Solution.
Maat
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Post by paulh on Mar 31, 2009 7:16:47 GMT
The Canary Islanders wiped out by the Spanish around the 16th century had stories of fleeing from a large land that was destroyed by catastrophe - according to some email correspondence I had with an islander.
Here are some web extracts:
"According to the tales of the European conquerors, the Guanches were a "highly beautiful white race, tall, muscular, and with a great many blondes amongst their numbers" ........The ancestors of the Guanches arrived by sea, colonized the islands... and then "forgot" how to sail! ..... each island had developed into its own microcosm to the point where even the language had differentiated into distinct dialects. The islands were cut off one from the other as the natives did not know the art of navigation. They fished only in coastal tidal pools."
"....link between the Guanches and the Egyptians comes in the form of pyramids - the Guanches built several small step pyramids on the islands, using exactly the same model as those found in ancient Egypt and in Mesopotamia."
I wonder how much Western technology would survive if a few thousand survived a cataclysm having been swept in small boats to a remote island.
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Post by ruffashlar on May 19, 2009 15:59:45 GMT
the Guanches were a "highly beautiful white race, tall, muscular, and with a great many blondes amongst their numbers" ........The ancestors of the Guanches arrived by sea, colonized the islands... and then "forgot" how to sail
The Aztecs had a very similar myth about their own antecedents - that's why originally they welcomed the Conquistadores with open arms. I personally would look to an ancient ethnic, cultural or storytelling link between the Guanches and the Aztecs, rather than positing some fantastical Atlantean link.
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Post by paulh on May 19, 2009 22:02:16 GMT
I personally would look to an ancient ethnic, cultural or storytelling link between the Guanches and the Aztecs... How about an island half way between on which both used to live? The Guanches have traditions of such a land.
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