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Post by hollandr on Sept 17, 2008 22:52:30 GMT
In another thread the proposition was made that men and women are fundamentally the same.
I wonder if women would make the same statement
I recall that some US women in the days of flower power brought up sons without the benefit of toy guns in the belief that warlike behaviour was learned .
But they found it made no difference. The boys just made a fist and pointed out the index finger and they had a gun
I suspect that boys are born to carry on the battle of good and evil
If so, what metaphysical role might women have?
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Post by Tamrin on Sept 18, 2008 8:11:35 GMT
There is more difference within the sexes than between them. Ivy Compton-Burnett
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Post by imakegarb on Sept 18, 2008 9:49:35 GMT
Sure we're different. Do you think we'd find you at all interesting if you weren't? BTW, when I was a kid, I loved playing soldier, too. I don't think it's a gender thing, I think it's what some kids do.
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Post by Tamrin on Sept 18, 2008 10:53:18 GMT
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Post by leonardo on Sept 18, 2008 12:41:07 GMT
I found the following, lighted look at the "differences" between men and women. **************************************************** Women have more imagination than men. They need it to tell men how wonderful they are.
Women have their faults. Men have only two. Everything they say and everything they do.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
Men wake up as good-looking as they went to bed. Women somehow deteriorate during the night.
When women are depressed they either eat or go shopping. Men invade another country.
A man is a person who will pay two dollars for a one dollar item he wants. A woman will pay one dollar for a two dollar item that she doesn't want.
Men always want to be a woman's first love. Women have a more subtle instinct-they like to be a man's last romance.
The only way to understand a woman is to love her and then it isn't necessary to understand her.
To women love is an occupation. To men it is a preoccupation.
To be happy with a man you must understand him a lot and love him a little. To be happy with a woman you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
A woman marries a man expecting he will change but he doesn't. A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change and she does.
Men marry because they are tired. Women marry because they are curious.
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband while a man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A woman will always cherish the memory of the man who wanted to marry her. A man will cherish the memory of the woman he didn't marry.
There are two times when a man doesn't understand a woman-before marriage and after marriage.
Only two things are necessary to keep one's wife happy. One is to let her think she is having her own way and the other is to let her have it.
Married men live longer than single men, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
Any married man should forget his mistakes-no use two people remembering the same thing.
Some husbands are living proof that a woman can take a joke.
Husbands are like cars-all of them are good the first year.
A woman has the last word in any argument. Anthing a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.
If women knew what men were thinking they'd never stop slapping them.
Men are like animals but they make great pets.
Can you imagine a world without men? No crime and lots of happy fat women.
Women have two weapons--cosmetics and tears.
Women may be the only group that grow more radical with age.
God made man before woman to give him time to think of an answer to her first question. **************************************************** Source
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Post by hollandr on Sept 18, 2008 13:05:05 GMT
>I suspect that boys are born to carry on the battle of good and evil. If so, what metaphysical role might women have?
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Post by synchronicity on Sept 18, 2008 13:57:38 GMT
I suspect that boys are born to carry on the battle of good and evil. If so, what metaphysical role might women have? Good and evil are two horns on the same goat. They're two poles of the same thing, or the extremes in the swing of the pendulum (cf. The Kybalion). Viewed in that light, 'fighting' evil doesn't even make sense. Also, if you give evil your attention, you will feed it some of your own energy, and that's the last thing you want to do! In mental alchemy you don't fight evil but swing away form it; thereby swinging toward good. Returning to the gender thing, people who recall previous incarnations say they have incarnated as both males and females. Surely that should tell us something? And Helena Blavatsky did not do her work as a woman but as a human being.
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Post by leonardo on Sept 18, 2008 15:13:09 GMT
And Helena Blavatsky did not do her work as a woman but as a human being. Indeed. A very important distinction. In my view the only differences between men and women are merely the obvious physical ones. All other "differences" are just illusions.
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Post by Tamrin on Sept 18, 2008 15:19:10 GMT
Let's not forget that everyone knows that women are, of course, the weaker sex! Edward Burt, 1822, Letters from a Gentleman in the North of Scotland to His Friend in London.
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Post by synchronicity on Sept 18, 2008 17:46:57 GMT
Let's not forget that everyone knows that women are, of course, the weaker sex! Edward Burt, 1822, Letters from a Gentleman in the North of Scotland to His Friend in London. The lady on the left has a mean moustache. ;D
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Post by Tamrin on Sept 18, 2008 21:56:27 GMT
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Post by leonardo on Sept 18, 2008 21:57:16 GMT
...In my view the only differences between men and women are merely the obvious physical ones. All other "differences" are just illusions. What you call "illusions" are my "fantasies!" ;D (and so too are those illusionary physical differences! ) ;D ;D
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Post by hollandr on Sept 18, 2008 23:53:08 GMT
At the risk of stating the obvious - male and female bodies are different - male and female nervous systems function differently e.g. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051201165615.htm- male and female psychology is different en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Are_from_Mars,_Women_Are_from_Venus So what of women's spirituality? Is that also different? In ancient times there were Mysteries restricted to women and even today in Australia the indigenous population have "secret women's business" Doris Lessing suggests that women actually have a different religion from men en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marriages_Between_Zones_Three,_Four_and_Five I suppose that "as below so above" would indicate that physical and psychological differences are evidence for spiritual differences. So does any one know the spiritual mission of women?
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Post by imakegarb on Sept 19, 2008 3:58:11 GMT
Bro. Russell, *I* suspect individuals are called to battle evil. Constantly. Truly, on a spiritual level, I do not believe we are so gender based as we are in the world of Manifestation. For instance, darn near all of us where clothing in the world of Manifestation but on other planes, none of us do. There are other examples but, clearly, there are things that exist logically in this world that don't in others. So I think you need to back up a bit and examine your premise, because it ain't just men who fight evil. Some of them do. Some women do. Not all men are called to battle evil. Likewise, not all women are called to battle evil. I think a better question is what are the qualities of those individuals who are called the battle evil compared to those who are not (the latter group, presumably, makes lunches for the former ).
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Post by hollandr on Sept 19, 2008 4:10:36 GMT
>the latter group, presumably, makes lunches for the former
Actually the other group(s) may have spiritual functions
What might they be?
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Post by maat on Sept 19, 2008 4:36:32 GMT
Man represents My direction. Woman receives My abundance. Man and Woman together translate My path into reality.www.newagevisions.com/NewAgeVisions/friend.htmlWhat is "good" and "evil?"
Good is everything that makes up the Universe. Evil is all that is unfinished. Maat
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Post by hollandr on Sept 19, 2008 4:40:36 GMT
>Woman receives My abundance.
Pretty good.
What then is the abundance?
What is the woman to do with the abundance?
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Post by maat on Sept 19, 2008 4:46:29 GMT
More a matter of BEING the abundance ...
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Post by hollandr on Sept 19, 2008 4:48:40 GMT
>Good is everything that makes up the Universe. Evil is all that is unfinished.
I suspect that unfinished things may be good also.
There is a sequence in Genesis where the creator repeatedly checks to see that his creation is good
Genesis KJV 18... and God saw that it was good. 21. and God saw that it was good. 25. and God saw that it was good. 31.And God saw every thing that he had made , and, behold, it was very good.
This seems to imply that just because God created it did not mean that it was good.
It might be better think in terms of balanced light and dark as in the yin-yang symbol and unbalanced
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Post by hollandr on Sept 19, 2008 4:52:24 GMT
>More a matter of BEING the abundance ...
That seems unfair that men have dynamic purposes (directions) but not women
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