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Post by Blackadder on Nov 13, 2008 0:32:19 GMT
This my Brothers was taken after an EA degree,if it wasn't so sad it would be funny.
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Post by maat on Nov 13, 2008 3:33:57 GMT
I heartily disagree with you blackadder... I think it is a beautiful photograph, beautiful smiling faces and see how the aprons stand out. I have long advocated aprons over street and work wear. Quality is in the heart not the clothes.
Why do you think it is sad?
Maat
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Post by penfold on Nov 13, 2008 4:32:50 GMT
I dont see what the problem is - surely it is better to have a full lodge of people comfortably dressed rather than a sparsely populated lodge full of people in suits and ties. Personally I wish the dress code in UGLE lodges was more relaxed
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Post by generatics on Nov 13, 2008 7:03:55 GMT
I personally am just the type who is uncomfortable in a full business suit, which is required here in my home state(s). It's part of the oldschool thought that wearing a suit to the office induces productivity and order, which is now largely agreed to be plain false. I worked very hard my whole life to have a career in casual clothes. Not to say I don't understand the value of presenting oneself respectfully, I am a well-dressed person. I just don't see how a suit and tie has anything at all to do with the true purpose of our work. And we wonder why so many treat it as a simple gentleman's club or network. I'm quite fond of the whole robes code worn in some Co-Masonry Obediences. Equal, solemn and simple and I think it perfectly makes it a non- issue, which is what it should be. IMHO of course.
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 13, 2008 8:27:23 GMT
It is the same as with any person. It is not what is on the outside.
It is what is inside.
As long as the heart is well dressed.
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Post by leonardo on Nov 13, 2008 9:21:11 GMT
It is the same as with any person. It is not what is on the outside. It is what is inside. As long as the heart is well dressed. I agree, totally. I have seen some Masons who look the part but seemingly lack the heart.
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Post by AndyF on Nov 13, 2008 10:56:46 GMT
I'm quite fond of the whole robes code worn in some Co-Masonry Obediences. Equal, solemn and simple and I think it perfectly makes it a non- issue, which is what it should be. IMHO of course. Robes? Care to elaborate for us backward malecraft folk?
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Post by lauderdale on Nov 13, 2008 12:08:37 GMT
I obviously cannot speak for all Co-Masonic Lodges but in LDH the general dress code in those Lodges of the British Federation that I have attended is, for male Brethren a dark suit, white shirt, black tie, for female Brethren, either black or white-some Lodges stipulate which in their Bye-Laws , some leave that choice to the individual and visitors wear whatever is the custom in their Lodge. White Gloves are worn in some Lodges but not others, again as per their Bye-Laws. Obviously appropriate Regalia is worn. In LDH we wear the Collarette of our A&ASR Degree if applicable, but not an RA Breast Jewel if in that Order as it is York Rite. This is the opposite to UGLE Practice.
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Post by corab on Nov 13, 2008 12:25:47 GMT
What's the problem? We're supposed to be builders. Last time I saw a building site I saw my contemporary operative brethren wearing overalls.
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 13, 2008 12:43:13 GMT
Well I have several thoughts on this, Dress Code. I hate wearing a suite and Tie, but I do understand that it conveys a certain respect for others that you have taken the time to do so and that even if it is uncomfortable you have made the effort.
In the back of my mind there is also the theme that was drummed into me when I started my secondary education, we wear a school uniform to show that no one is better or worse than anyone else.
I also prefer to see a Lodge with suite and tie plus regalia, but that is my personal choice, when one is fat and bald it helps to cover as much as possible.
I suppose we end with has the dress code improved your Lodge or improved your view of your Lodge.
My Mother Lodge has 4 meetings a year, it does not kill me to make an effort for those meetings.
So in principle it should not make a difference what the members wear, but in practice does it ? maybe the originating poster could answer this ?
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Post by maximus on Nov 13, 2008 12:55:06 GMT
For what it's worth, here's a picture of some of my brethren and me at my raising, which I posted elsewhere on here. Our dress code in Tennessee is casual. I do not find it detracts at all from the experience.
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Post by lauderdale on Nov 13, 2008 13:17:16 GMT
Which one is you then?
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Post by maximus on Nov 13, 2008 13:24:58 GMT
Front row, the tall one with the tie.
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Post by billmcelligott on Nov 13, 2008 14:29:22 GMT
Well you can see how all the extra Gold makes me look good, see if you can guess any of the other faces ?
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Post by leonardo on Nov 13, 2008 14:53:24 GMT
Front row, the tall one with the tie. And a fine man you are, Max. in fact, you look like a neighbour of mine. A policeman, no less ;D
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Post by leonardo on Nov 13, 2008 14:55:39 GMT
Well you can see how all the extra Gold makes me look good, see if you can guess any of the other faces ? I see Wayne and Peter Isn't Bod there, too.
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Post by waynecowley on Nov 13, 2008 15:19:26 GMT
Not on that occassion Leo - not had the pleasure of meeting bod in person yet
Wayne
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Post by leonardo on Nov 13, 2008 15:37:06 GMT
Thanks Wayne. I haven't met him personally either so I guess the pleasure awaits us both. Mind you, the only one in the photo I have met is Bill but look forward to meeting good people like yourself, Peter, etc... at some stage down the road.
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Post by generatics on Nov 13, 2008 19:12:28 GMT
I'm quite fond of the whole robes code worn in some Co-Masonry Obediences. Equal, solemn and simple and I think it perfectly makes it a non- issue, which is what it should be. IMHO of course. Robes? Care to elaborate for us backward malecraft folk? I am currently malecraft also. You can find photos online of what I'm referring to. I believe the U.S. Co-Masonry uses these. www.co-masonry.org
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Post by maat on Nov 13, 2008 22:31:26 GMT
... my contribution. Our lodge has since given the ladies a choice to wear black and white, which we have all taken up. Maat
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