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Post by 1wizardstone on Nov 18, 2009 1:28:59 GMT
hmmm,... I've listened to a bunch of the 2012 stuff on Coast-to-coast AM. There are like endless opinions to it. Mine would be that something remarkable will indeed occur on that day because everyone will expect something and most will not rest until something is found.
One thing for sure is at that moment, there will be one large intensity of focus and awareness on a global scale. I don't know the effects of that. What would that cause?
....besides seeing 2012 T-shirts and bumper stickers all over the place, lol
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Post by mgc on Nov 18, 2009 2:56:33 GMT
interesting question.. did anything of particular interest take place around 00:00 01/01/'00 ?
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Post by methuselah on Nov 18, 2009 5:00:31 GMT
[ 2012 - the Age of Aquarius, whose sign is the Water Bearer. Said Jesus to the three:"Go immediately into Jerusalem, and as you enter the gate, you will meet a man bearing a water pitcher. He will speak to you, and then shall you follow him. When he leads you to a certain house, go in after him and ask of the good man of that house, `Where is the guest chamber wherein the Master is to eat supper with his apostles?' And when you have thus inquired, this householder will show you a large upper room all furnished and ready for us." Maat Bingo, Bro.. Beginning of a new astronomical/ astrological age, with the Sun equinoxing in the next constellation in the Procession, along with all that is esoterically implied within us. Cool enough at that, w/o a lot of conspiratorial BS to dumb it down. 2012 end- of- the- world scenarios: Just Say No.
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Post by 1wizardstone on Nov 18, 2009 7:15:52 GMT
from: mgc
interesting question.. did anything of particular interest take place around 00:00 01/01/'00 ?
That is a great comparison. I don't know how far it can be applied...
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Post by shemihaza on Nov 18, 2009 13:18:17 GMT
2012 - the Age of Aquarius, whose sign is the Water Bearer. Said Jesus to the three:"Go immediately into Jerusalem, and as you enter the gate, you will meet a man bearing a water pitcher. He will speak to you, and then shall you follow him. When he leads you to a certain house, go in after him and ask of the good man of that house, `Where is the guest chamber wherein the Master is to eat supper with his apostles?' And when you have thus inquired, this householder will show you a large upper room all furnished and ready for us." I'm a little suspicious placing contemporary 'new age' interpretations on texts written in another time period and by authors with a vastly different mindset. After all, who do we really know that these were symbols? Perhaps the people meeting didn't know how to get there and would be thirsty? I get the 'dawning of the new age of aquarius' bit, and this isn't the first time I've encountered this, but lacking further information, I think it's a bit of a stretch. For instance, there's nothing that says, "when the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter is aligned with Mars" or anything else showing astrological clues. It's just a house where they met to have the bread/salt ceremony. Sometimes people read in too much and see what they want to see.
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Post by mgc on Nov 18, 2009 14:38:36 GMT
oi, get off my hair..
it does have to do with astronomy (as usual).. the sun appears to shift along the zodiac at a velocity of 1 degree in 72 years (orso) in the opposite direction of which it travels during a year.. the zodiac originates in babylon where it evolved from older systems (if wiki is not mistaken) when the sun was in aries.. there seem to be myths dealing with the era before aries (taurus), so i imagine the signs themselves didnt originate in babylon.. anyway, after aries came the age were still in today; pisces.. were however getting closer to the next house (mine); aquarius.. what influence all this has on the human psyche, i leave to u..
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Post by maat on Nov 19, 2009 0:43:53 GMT
;D ... I find it hard to sleep when there is a full moon, life would cease if we didn't have the sun, so I guess other celestial bodies might have a bit of an influence upon us.
I keep coming back to Holographics when I try to figure out how it all hangs together.. each is a little and the same as the whole.
Fractal geometry is a marvellous tool to illustrate what I am trying to say. Can someone post an interactive link of FG here. Lost the one I had. All different but all the same.
Maat
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Post by mgc on Nov 19, 2009 2:31:30 GMT
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Post by methuselah on Nov 19, 2009 7:00:34 GMT
oi, get off my hair.. it does have to do with astronomy (as usual).. the sun appears to shift along the zodiac at a velocity of 1 degree in 72 years (orso) in the opposite direction of which it travels during a year.. the zodiac originates in babylon where it evolved from older systems (if wiki is not mistaken) when the sun was in aries.. there seem to be myths dealing with the era before aries (taurus), so i imagine the signs themselves didnt originate in babylon.. anyway, after aries came the age were still in today; pisces.. were however getting closer to the next house (mine); aquarius.. what influence all this has on the human psyche, i leave to u.. Indeed, and that pretty much sums up the whole 2012 thing. Simple end of an astronomical age, and beginning of another. How it will affect us? Who knows. In the AASR we say that "even the trestleboard of the heavens submits to,"...uh...something, but you get the meaning. Regardless, I'll be sipping a top shelf single malt at that auspicious moment. The poles might shift, or mankind might enter into Samadhi, or Cthulu might eat our heads, or whatever. I'm down with it.
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Post by middlepillar on Nov 19, 2009 10:18:39 GMT
Que sera sera! (Or something like that!)
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Post by mgc on Nov 19, 2009 14:01:23 GMT
if 2012 is indeed about the end of an astronomical age (debatable imo), i would xpect to see history repeated, but in different form..
mmm... if the poles would flip and in doing so temporarily diminish the magnetic field, wed be more xposed to hard radiation from space.. i might consider having that whisky somewhere underground.. evidence of geomagnetic reversals can be found in the direction of iron particles in solidified lava.. does this evidence say anything on the time it takes the field to switch and how it behaves in the mean time? data seems to suggest changes r accelerating..
that would be a good reason to get drunk..
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Post by stepnwolf on Nov 19, 2009 15:48:50 GMT
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Post by maximus on Nov 19, 2009 19:14:40 GMT
oi, get off my hair.. it does have to do with astronomy (as usual).. the sun appears to shift along the zodiac at a velocity of 1 degree in 72 years (orso) in the opposite direction of which it travels during a year.. the zodiac originates in babylon where it evolved from older systems (if wiki is not mistaken) when the sun was in aries.. there seem to be myths dealing with the era before aries (taurus), so i imagine the signs themselves didnt originate in babylon.. anyway, after aries came the age were still in today; pisces.. were however getting closer to the next house (mine); aquarius.. what influence all this has on the human psyche, i leave to u.. Indeed, and that pretty much sums up the whole 2012 thing. Simple end of an astronomical age, and beginning of another. How it will affect us? Who knows. In the AASR we say that "even the trestleboard of the heavens submits to,"...uh...something, but you get the meaning. Regardless, I'll be sipping a top shelf single malt at that auspicious moment. The poles might shift, or mankind might enter into Samadhi, or Cthulu might eat our heads, or whatever. I'm down with it. I'm going with Cthulhu. May you be eaten first.
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Post by methuselah on Nov 19, 2009 22:19:16 GMT
I'm going with Cthulhu. May you be eaten first. Yeah, but you've always had a weird thing for squid- faced old gods.
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Post by methuselah on Nov 19, 2009 22:22:31 GMT
if 2012 is indeed about the end of an astronomical age (debatable imo), i would xpect to see history repeated, but in different form.. We don't have to wait for 2012 for that, Bro.. ;D Where is the point of debate, BTW? Those "ages" are fairly well documented, not only by sacred test symbology (and actually, that might be debatable), but simple astronomic observation. The precession of the equinoxes just is. Wobble- wobble.
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Post by mgc on Nov 19, 2009 23:19:39 GMT
well, 2012 was derived from a mayan calender.. did they have the same system? the (hard line) boundary between this age and the next is also debated.. we could also debate how the repetition changes..
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Post by methuselah on Nov 20, 2009 0:15:59 GMT
well, 2012 was derived from a mayan calender.. did they have the same system? Oh, hell, who knows? That really is the thing. If they used the same constellation groups we do (regardless of what they called them), why not? The sun equinoxes pretty much the same for everyone, and it's an easily observable phenomenon. True on #1, although the very earliest possibility is 2012, more- or- less. Not sure what you mean by repetition.
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Post by mgc on Nov 20, 2009 0:20:12 GMT
the changes in repetition of history..
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Post by methuselah on Nov 20, 2009 2:26:16 GMT
the changes in repetition of history.. hmmmm....guess I don't see that many changes in the repetition of history, other than the fact that it continues to repeat, and we continue to expect different results.
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Post by mgc on Nov 20, 2009 9:38:58 GMT
which ones do u see?
is that an alteration?
shouldnt we?
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