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Post by maat on Jun 19, 2009 0:09:51 GMT
The Grail is in our heads (literally I think). What is the relationship between the beehive and the grail? Have no idea, but have come across a whole lot lately about the bull and bees. Bees come from bulls - and lions... bees have something to do with bears also (Ursus/Arthur)? The kings of the Venedotiae provided extraordinary leadership. It was their king called the 'Bear', in latin 'Ursus', and in cimbri 'Arth', whose double romano-british name was Arthursus, who defeated the saxon army led by either Cerdic, or his precedents Aelle and Octha, at the renowned battle of Bath Hill circa 495 Anno Domino (Year of our Lord). The Annales Cambriae (Welsh Chronicles) somewhat unreliably date the battle with the post-dated entry for 516 A.D.(Anno Domino):
"516 A.D... Bellum Badonis, in quo Arthur portavit crucem Domini nostri Jesu Christi tribus diebus et tribus noctibus in humeros suos, et Britones victores fuerunt."
The Battle of Bath, in which the Bear carried the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ three days and three nights on his shoulders, and Britons found victory.www.medievalhistory.net/mdvlh/page0005.htmThen we have... Ursa Major In astronomy, the "Great Bear", the most prominent northern constellation, containing the seven stars that form the Big Dipper. Ursa Minor The "Little Bear", the constellation nearest the north pole. It contains the north star, or polestar, which is situated in the extremity of the tail. Given the bull could refer to Taurus ... the Ursa's are worthy of some consideration. Maat
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Post by paulh on Jun 19, 2009 2:35:57 GMT
bees have something to do with bears also Quite so: Isn't it funny how a bear likes honey Buzz, buzz, buzz, I wonder why he does. A proposition well worth considering.
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Post by Doc on Jun 19, 2009 3:55:39 GMT
Isn't it funny how a bear likes honey Buzz, buzz, buzz, I wonder why he does. Because honey is a easily obtained food source in nature. Bears have a sweet-tooth, just as do humans. Sweets make good bait when hunting bears.
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Post by Doc on Jun 19, 2009 4:11:48 GMT
Have no idea, but have come across a whole lot lately about the bull and bees. Bees come from bulls - and lions... bees have something to do with bears also (Ursus/Arthur)?Bees create a food source that bears are attracted to. I would not say that bees "come from" bulls and lions - what did you mean by this? The most promenent stars of the constellation are seen as, variously, a dipper or a plough.
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Post by maat on Jun 19, 2009 5:11:29 GMT
It also highlights that only certain bulls were revered, namely the Apis, which was all black except for a white triangle on its forehead, and a bull with a white body and a black head called Muntu, which was sacred to the Bee master god Min. The cult of the god Apis dates to the First Dynasty and possibly earlier, for the constellation of age of Taurus began in 4530 BC. Like the Apis bull itself, the constellation has a distinctive triangle on its forehead, with a prominent star – Alderbaran, in the location of the “third eye”, which represents with the 7th chakra, or the passage through the abyss and the notion of transcending time. Clearly, the Egyptians were obsessed with the veneration of the bull. The question remains, was their obsession intrinsically linked to the Bee?
Egyptologists believe that the Apis Bull was bestowed with the regenerative qualities of the Memphite god Ptah – the Egyptian god of reincarnation. They also believed that those who inhaled the breath of the Apis bull received the gift of prophesy, and perhaps most importantly of all, the Egyptians believed that the bull was transformed into Osiris Apis, after death. ‘Bee’ in Latin is ‘Apis’, which may have derived from Sipa / Asipa in Mesopotamia; Sipa meaning ‘Great Shepherd in the Sky’ and Apis meaning Osiris. This relates to the belief that after death, the Pharaoh’s soul joined Osiris as a star in the constellation of Orion. Alternatively, some believe it became a Bee star in the constellation of Cancer. And of course Sipa is Apis spelt backwards.www.andrewgough.co.uk/bee1_2.html
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Post by maat on Jun 19, 2009 5:12:16 GMT
From the same wonderful source...
The tradition of the Bee worship in Spain has been preserved to this day, albeit under the rather macabre guise of Bull fighting. The modern day ‘sport’ is actually an extension of Mithraism, the ancient mystery school whose rites included the ritualistic slaughter of bulls.
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Post by maat on Jun 19, 2009 5:14:37 GMT
... Buzz, buzz and all that... related to the Language of the Birds, Green Language?
What about cicadas.... I am sure one lives in my left ear (must wash more often) ... very distinct morse code sort of signals.
Maat
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Post by paulh on Jun 19, 2009 5:36:24 GMT
... Buzz, buzz and all that... related to the Language of the Birds, Green Language? I suggest rather that the relationship between the physical bear and physical honey is a reflection of the cosmic bear and cosmic honey. Hence the emphasis in Masonry that from the hive comes sweetness and light. ...What about cicadas.... I am sure one lives in my left ear (must wash more often) ... very distinct morse code sort of signals. My preliminary hypothesis would be some differential between right and left brain functioning. This could be tested with some exercises that stimulate the hemispheres separately - perhaps some brain-gym or hemi-sync. Such exercises might diminish your morse experience.
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