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Post by vajranagini on Nov 21, 2011 21:35:50 GMT
Sounds like a GREAT book; is it available anywhere? I am interested in knowing just what was available to Freemasons in terms of astrological information; at one time one would certainly have to have been an "initiate' to be able to even access such information!
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Post by vajranagini on Nov 24, 2011 4:50:01 GMT
I have obtained a copy of this Masonic Astronomy book and will report back here when i have finished it. It looks absolutely fascinating. Does anyone here know the author David Ovason? I heard he became a Freemason; I am sure he would love a copy of this book!
I am currently reading Alan Leo's series on astrology; it was written in the Thirties and it is fascinating to come upon the footnotes that proclaim a recently discovered planet beyond Neptune, called "Pluto".
Pluto, currently in Capricorn , is now moving into opposition to its natal Sign of 'birth'; (in fact it was shortly after Pluto's entrance into the zodiacal pantheon that Enrico Fermi achieved a sustained nuclear chain reaction or some such event), and this cannot but herald great and irrevocable changes... In fact, I daresay it was some such astrological configuration that told the Mayan astrologers the end of the cycle was come and so the present calendar would no longer be needed after that.
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Post by sid on Nov 24, 2011 9:29:15 GMT
Greetings, a globe of earth and another globe with the 12 signs of the zodiacNeophytesage, the reference is probably to the two pillars of the porch of Solomon's temple, which tradition has it were surmounted, one by a celestial sphere, and the other by a terrestrial globe. Check out the zodiac artwork of Johfra Bosschart (also on youtube). He was also a contract painter for masonic artwork, though difficult to find. Sid P.S. Do a Google search of 'images' with the words 'gottorfer globus' and you will find some examples of a combination of both. Also mentioned in the text the 'Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz. Anno 1459' (So the one in Russia is not the oldest globe in the world, because the text was written 1616. The globe in Russia 1654-1664.
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Post by vajranagini on Nov 24, 2011 15:36:59 GMT
Funny you should mention Johfra; we have his zodiac posters up all over our house!
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Post by beersheva on Dec 6, 2011 16:21:28 GMT
FREEMASONRY, as I understand it, has to do with initiatory rites involving EGYPTIAN G-D FORMS in the BLUE LODGE. I'm not a FREEMASON, so I may have incorrect information. As the BEMBINE TABLET of ISIS shows, the symbolism of the multiple EGYPTIAN PANTHEON has to do with ZODIACAL FORCES among others. Also, I've read MORALS and DOGMA, which clearly shows the various esoteric backgrounds behind each of the 32° of the SCOTTISH RITE, including ALCHEMY, ROSICRUCIANISM, GNOSTICISM, HERMETIC PHILOSOPHY, MAGIA and KABBALAH, all of which have connections to ASTROLOGY.
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Post by beersheva on Dec 6, 2011 18:09:52 GMT
KABBALAH and many if not all esoteric systems, including HERMETICISM, ALCHEMY, MAGIA cannot be understood only intellectually if the person studying them desires contact with HIGHER INTELLIGENCES or DIVINITY. A person has to LIVE the teachings that are MORAL doctrines before they can penetrate the symbolism that those systems have. Just because one has a vast library of esoteric books, has read and retained much of it, and can perform various RITUALS, usually does NOT mean that they've attained any elevation in their soul, or WISDOM, but much more probably an increase in the size of their EGO. Why were many grimoires in so-called MAGIA prefaced with the statement that the PROFANE should put the book down without opening it. Real esoteric societies are intensely selective as to who may be members, especially in the JEWISH TRADITION.
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Post by beersheva on Dec 7, 2011 0:36:55 GMT
Bueno ANUBIS, thanks for correcting my mistaken assumption.
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Post by vajranagini on Dec 31, 2011 4:06:26 GMT
KABBALAH and many if not all esoteric systems, including HERMETICISM, ALCHEMY, MAGIA cannot be understood only intellectually if the person studying them desires contact with HIGHER INTELLIGENCES or DIVINITY. A person has to LIVE the teachings that are MORAL doctrines before they can penetrate the symbolism that those systems have. Just because one has a vast library of esoteric books, has read and retained much of it, and can perform various RITUALS, usually does NOT mean that they've attained any elevation in their soul, or WISDOM, but much more probably an increase in the size of their EGO. Why were many grimoires in so-called MAGIA prefaced with the statement that the PROFANE should put the book down without opening it. Real esoteric societies are intensely selective as to who may be members, especially in the JEWISH TRADITION.[/quote] Yes, you are quite right about THAT: women need not apply at ANY time! And even in these "liberal" times, where "Kabbalah" is available to them, they are STILL expected to "sit down and shuddup". Thank goodness for "Hermetic Qabalah"!
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Post by boreades on Mar 17, 2013 13:25:08 GMT
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Post by beejay on Mar 19, 2013 3:36:49 GMT
There seems to be several lines of thought here. The Merkabah is originally a literal reference to the chariots of the gods as demonstrated by various ancient depictions of gods in flying machines. With the overt departure of the gods those accounts can be turned to religious and spiritual uses - providing symbolism that can refer to the multi-layer light bodies that various entities use for manifestation including inner plane travel. The light bodies are built from various energies some of which are represented by the Platonic solids. Some types of rock are good transmitters of subtle energies and this can be focussed when they are in particular geometric forms that may include Platonic solids. Thus it is possible to choose the right piece of rock, treat it with understanding and form it into a resonant shape. Personally I have not seen too many examples where that has worked well, often because the elemental substance of the rock has been traumatised in several stages.
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 19, 2013 8:22:53 GMT
There seems to be several lines of thought here.
The Merkabah is originally a literal reference to the chariots of the gods as demonstrated by various ancient depictions of gods in flying machines.
With the overt departure of the gods those accounts can be turned to religious and spiritual uses - providing symbolism that can refer to the multi-layer light bodies that various entities use for manifestation including inner plane travel.
The light bodies are built from various energies some of which are represented by the Platonic solids.
Some types of rock are good transmitters of subtle energies and this can be focussed when they are in particular geometric forms that may include Platonic solids.
Thus it is possible to choose the right piece of rock, treat it with understanding and form it into a resonant shape. Personally I have not seen too many examples where that has worked well, often because the elemental substance of the rock has been traumatised in several stages. There seems to be several lines of thought here. What are your sources?
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Post by beersheva on Mar 1, 2014 3:21:07 GMT
vajranagini: [Yes, you are quite right about THAT: women need not apply at ANY time! And even in these "liberal" times, where "Kabbalah" is available to them, they are STILL expected to "sit down and shuddup". Thank goodness for "Hermetic Qabalah"!]
So, in Freemasonry (HERMETIC KABBALAH) there are women initiates into the ORDER? Yet, Freemasonry does have ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR, WHITE SHRINE OF JERUSALEM, and AMARANTH, all separate orders for women.
The HOGD initiates men and women into it's order, but it became very quickly fractured, and a number of esotericists assert that it really doesn't initiate now, if it ever did. I am not clear about why W. Wynn Wescott, Dr. R. F. Woodman and S. L. Mac Gregor Mathers, the triumvirate who founded the HOGD, all past Supreme Magi of the SRIA and 32° Masons decided to make the Order open to both men and women.
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