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Post by kromedragon on Apr 20, 2009 11:52:17 GMT
The fact that a river feeds the ocean, would suggest that a river is a masculine entity.
It is flowing down from a mountain top or a height and has acquired potential energy. As it moves downward this newtonian energy, the potential energy changes to kinetic energy. The river flows into the sea, feeding fresh water, and mineral suspensions and nutrients into the ocean. That would make the sea the female.
And occulticly speaking, sexual energy flows from male to female.
Even visually, in an ariel view, the river is somewhat phalic as compared to the sea. The river flows thru land and empties itself into the sea. A seminal trait!
Is this an accurate observation?
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Post by paulh on Apr 20, 2009 22:45:57 GMT
The question presupposes that a river has some energy qualities and is properly considered an entity rather than a temporary collection of run-off water. I have met water engineers who relate to the river as an entity - even as the client. Of course all entities have a body, intelligence and some link to a greater scheme or system. The body (elemental water) may be predominantly male or female according to its state - placid or torrential. The elemental body of the river is a home for many entities both physical and non-physical. Some of the entities are regarded as river gods - e.g. Meander en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meander_(mythology)The local river here has an entity that might well be called a river god. He can often be observed moving along the river - once you get your eye adjusted to his etheric form. He is a bit mischievous and once came on to the bank next to us and challenged my friend to make him return to the river. He was just bluffing and went back easily. I am not sure if river gods are generally male but you can look through these links. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sea_and_river_godsThe river as an elemental body also may be ensouled by a nature spirit. These are generally adaptable to circumstance and may combine male and female qualities. As your question is phrased more in terms of the chi flows in the landscape, you may like to consider Feng Shui through which it is possible to analyse the landscape energies in some detail. Cheers
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Post by maat on Apr 21, 2009 0:19:59 GMT
Freud would have loved you kromedragon... don't you think of anything without a sexual connotation? Occultly speaking, are not the three chakras below the waist part of our present society's problem? We waste or allow that spiritual/sexual energy drain away rather than direct it upwards, as a fountain of irredescent spiritual force that acts upon the pituitary and pineal glands in the brain and ignites/illuminates our Crown of Glory (Cosmic Consciousness-All Seeing Eye). Masonic aprons and their ties can indicate that we might subdue those basic animal instincts that reside in the three base chakras, so that our energies may activate the four higher chakras. (Seven chakras-Seven officers). www.tantra-kundalini.com/chakras.htmMaat
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Post by maat on Apr 21, 2009 0:23:02 GMT
PS If the French know anything, a river is feminine. La riviere. La = feminine.
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Post by kromedragon on Apr 21, 2009 8:12:50 GMT
Freud would have loved you kromedragon... don't you think of anything without a sexual connotation? Occultly speaking, are not the three chakras below the waist part of our present society's problem? We waste or allow that spiritual/sexual energy drain away rather than direct it upwards, as a fountain of irredescent spiritual force that acts upon the pituitary and pineal glands in the brain and ignites/illuminates our Crown of Glory (Cosmic Consciousness-All Seeing Eye). Masonic aprons and their ties can indicate that we might subdue those basic animal instincts that reside in the three base chakras, so that our energies may activate the four higher chakras. (Seven chakras-Seven officers). www.tantra-kundalini.com/chakras.htmMaat Maat: I feel that Existence is the result of perpetual sex between the cosmic yin and cosmic yang. The flow of magnetic energy from north pole to south pole is a kind of magnetic sex. The flow of electric dc current from the positive to negative of the battery terminals, is a kind of electrical sex. Solar flares, bursts of radiation from the Sun that get trapped in the Earth's van allen belts and create the polar phenomenon of, aurora borealis is a kind of electromagnetic sex. The big bang was a sexual feat of titanic proportions. Since then stars are being born every pico second through interstellar sex between nebulous energies. The absorption of matter and energies by black holes, worm holes, black bodies, dark matter, -- all intergalactic sex between plasma based energies. I feel the fission and fusion atomic reactions inside Stars and the Sun, are a kind of hi-energy sex. Sex then is a flow of energies, spiritual and otherwise. All energies in existence, electromagnetic or otherwise are the result of a sexual reaction on some level. You spoke about the activation of the All seeing Eye/ Crown of Glory. You said this may be done by not wasting sexual energy and allowing it to rise to the pineal glands in the cerebrum. About the All Seeing Eye, there may be other ways to activate this as well: In India, there is a rural legend, about a particular kind of snake. It is called the "Ich'chae'dari" snake or "naag". This snake has a very long life time, several centuries. Every hundred years it undergoes a metamorphosis: It transforms into a man or woman depending on the gender of the snake. On its crown or within its cranium is a crystal called the "naag manni". There are some who wish to acquire these crystals from the snake either diplomatically or by force (by killing the snake). The reason is that the crystal gives the owner a "super-active All Seeing Eye". (I am surprised why there is so little on the internet about this. I know this information because I live in the region. I also know those who have had close encounters with the creature. But I could not find much on the web on this. I googled it but no use.)
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Post by kromedragon on Apr 21, 2009 8:39:02 GMT
The question presupposes that a river has some energy qualities and is properly considered an entity rather than a temporary collection of run-off water. I have met water engineers who relate to the river as an entity - even as the client. Of course all entities have a body, intelligence and some link to a greater scheme or system. The body (elemental water) may be predominantly male or female according to its state - placid or torrential. The elemental body of the river is a home for many entities both physical and non-physical. Some of the entities are regarded as river gods - e.g. Meander en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meander_(mythology)The local river here has an entity that might well be called a river god. He can often be observed moving along the river - once you get your eye adjusted to his etheric form. He is a bit mischievous and once came on to the bank next to us and challenged my friend to make him return to the river. He was just bluffing and went back easily. I am not sure if river gods are generally male but you can look through these links. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sea_and_river_godsThe river as an elemental body also may be ensouled by a nature spirit. These are generally adaptable to circumstance and may combine male and female qualities. As your question is phrased more in terms of the chi flows in the landscape, you may like to consider Feng Shui through which it is possible to analyse the landscape energies in some detail. Cheers There was a time in history when the Nile was known to flood catastrophically. At that time virgin girls had to sacrificed to the Nile. In return for this sacrifice, the Nile would cease to flood in that particular year, or curb the destructive aspects during its flooding seasons. This is recorded by several middle eastern historians including Al Tabari. Furthermore, there are accounts that occultic letters have been written in occultic ink, naming divine dieties, asking the Nile to stop its flooding. These letters from the occultists were thrown into the Nile, with the desired effects; the Nile would cease to flood. In light of these incidents with the Nile, the river has asserted itself as an independant entity. If it was some other entity impersonating the Nile, in return for sacrifices of virgins, then it must have been a very powerful entity (ifreet etc) to be able to curb the Nile's flooding once the sacrifices were made. There is a very mystical connection between the Euphrates and the Tigris. I suspect that they could alternatively exhibit a male/female, or yin/yang personality. There divine aspects associated to the both the rivers in semitic and arabic texts.
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Post by Harmony on Apr 21, 2009 13:08:45 GMT
PS If the French know anything, a river is feminine. La riviere. La = feminine. Connversely, Robert Burns treats a river as being masculine. From Tam O'Shanter: "Before him, Doon pours all HIS floods". The River Doon flows into the Clyde at Alloway.
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Post by kromedragon on Apr 22, 2009 3:43:14 GMT
PS If the French know anything, a river is feminine. La riviere. La = feminine. Connversely, Robert Burns treats a river as being masculine. From Tam O'Shanter: "Before him, Doon pours all HIS floods". The River Doon flows into the Clyde at Alloway. In E H Coleridge's poem on Kubla Khan: "In Xanadu did Kubla Khan A stately pleasure-dome decree : Where Alph, the sacred river, ran Through caverns measureless to man Down to a sunless sea." THis poem narrates what happens inside Kubla Khan's "state pleasure dome". This term is synonymous with ecstasy, sexuality, sensuality. What happens in this pleasure dome? Read the next lines. A sacred river called Alph. and a "sunless sea"! The Sacred River Alph, is the Alpha Male. This river runs down thru "caverns measureless to man": This is kundalini seminal energy. The sacred river Alph finally runs "down to a sunless sea. The words "sunless sea" are a pun on words: By "sunless" it suggest "son-less", meaning without off-spring or heir: Furthermore, a "sunless sea" also means female entity that has not been impregnated YET! But then River Alph, the Alpha Male, winds downs thru ("caverns measureless to man") with all its Kudalini sexual energy and impreganates a feminine sea entity that was otherwise un-impregnated! The first stanza in this poem depicts the river as male and sea as a fertile female who is unfulfilled until the arrival of the Alpha male, the river Alph.
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Post by kromedragon on Apr 22, 2009 4:08:23 GMT
E H COLERIDGE'S "KUBLA KHAN" DECODED!!!
Carrying on where i left off in my preceding post, this thread".
I know move on to the next stanza of the poem:
"So twice five miles of fertile ground With walls and towers were girdled round : And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills, Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree ; And here were forests ancient as the hills, Enfolding sunny spots of greenery."
This stanza points to what happened after the alpha male river, Alph impregnated the sea: Coleridge shows that the impregnation was successful: He exemplifies this by throwing the hints to us. Lots of buzz words here":
1st line="Fertile"; So when the alpha male river and the sea mate we get fertility. This word "fertile" is a pointer to this reality.
2nd line= "walls and tower girdled round"; The word "girdle" pertaining to pelvic, and the words "gridled round" are suggestive of the female pelvic girdle, where round suggests feminity. Why "walls and towers"? Because they are depicted as a masculine entity. Thus Coleridge re-emphasizes the merging of male and female in this way.
3rd line= "Gardens"; Garden alludes to the garden of eden where adam and eve first met and mated; also signifies and confirms a successful impregnation of the sea by the alpha male river, Alph.
4th line= "incence-bearing Tree"; By this Coleridge establishes that the "sunless sea" / son-less sea (first stanza, see my preceding post) is no more son-less but has now sired offspring who are healthy and able to carry on the generation. "Incence bearing tree" is symbollic of propogation of the species.
5th Line="forests ancient as the hills"; Suggests that the bloodline is ancient, deep-rooted and diverse and numerous. Forests are a collection of trees and tree is symbollic with the genetic tree or blood lines.
6th Line="Enfolding sunny spots of greenery" This line is a final confirmation of a successful impregnation of sea by the river. Remember, from the first stanza (preceding post) that the sea was initially described as "sunless". But now we get images of "sunny spots of greenery"; Coleridge is making clear that sea that was sunless/son less/ without heir, - is now with off-spring.
THis confirms that the river Alph did infact impregnate the female sea who would otherwise have remained "sunless" / son less.
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Post by paulh on Apr 22, 2009 4:12:20 GMT
You might find Feng Shui a more useful tool for analysis - for example it differentiates Chi into 5 elements each of which can be detected in the landscape
I wonder if humans have a fivefold mode of interaction.
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Post by ruffashlar on May 1, 2009 16:35:49 GMT
If the French know anything, a river is feminine. La riviere. La = feminineBut in Latin flumen it's neuter. As to "Alph the sacred river" being the Alpha Male, I dunno about that, but it is truncated from Alphaeus, a masculine Proper Noun for a river which was believed to flow so rapidly that, even after emptying into the sea, its waters sped along the sea-bed and sprang up onto land again without mingling with seawater. Now, that said, I once knew a girl called Alph en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Moyet ;D ;D
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Post by maat on May 4, 2009 0:41:35 GMT
The River Doon flows into the Clyde at Alloway. Tha brig o' broons joost doon the rood.. (translation .... The Bridge of Brown is just down the road. ;D I have fond memories of Scotland)
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Post by maat on May 4, 2009 0:53:45 GMT
In India, there is a rural legend, about a particular kind of snake. It is called the "Ich'chae'dari" snake or "naag". This snake has a very long life time, several centuries. Every hundred years it undergoes a metamorphosis: It transforms into a man or woman depending on the gender of the snake. On its crown or within its cranium is a crystal called the "naag manni". There are some who wish to acquire these crystals from the snake either diplomatically or by force (by killing the snake). The reason is that the crystal gives the owner a "super-active All Seeing Eye". Freemasonry tells the same story. We have the Crown of Solomon above which is a shining star. We have the apron clasp in the form of a snake. We have the winding, snake like ascent, to higher realms where the light begins to shine. We have alternating current, black an white, light and dark exemplified. We have irridescent veils (crystalline) www.tantra-kundalini.com/nadis.htmAnd if you believe in reincarnation, you WILL BE the opposite sex sooner or later ... one cannot achieve wholeness without all sorts of experiences. Some say that the skull is the Grail cup. It's not just in India that one finds clues... Maat
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