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Post by maat on May 7, 2009 4:29:56 GMT
I remember Dr Prometheus or Dr Maximus (can't remember which) telling me all about 'patterns' --- I would use other words, but was reminded that the word is patterns, patterns. I tried to ignore them ;D but the word 'patterns' keeps coming back to haunt me. Yesterday, on a radio program mention was made about how sound is the result of the hairs in our ears (omigosh) responding to patterns in the air. Being curious to find out more about 'patterns' I did a bit of digging and found this little bit. The brain patterns of 'hearing voices' revealed
Researchers at the Mental Health Institute of Victoria have observed a pattern of brain activity in people with schizophrenia who are hearing voices that is similar to the pattern of brain activity observed in people without schizophrenia who are listening to someone speak. The finding indicates that the process of ‘hearing voices’, as occurs when someone with schizophrenia has auditory hallucinations, overlaps with the process that occurs in any hearing person’s brain when they hear the voice of another person speaking.
The researchers suggest that their finding supports the idea that auditory hallucinations are mis-remembered episodic memories of speech. The brain activity in the study was observed using positron emission tomography (PET), a computer imaging technique that is suited to experimental investigation of brain activity.www.mydr.com.au/mental-health/the-brain-patterns-of-hearing-voices-revealedNow the question I would like answered is: if the brain hears because of 'patterns' that surround us, why do the researchers assume that some people's brain have auditory hallucinations? Is it not possible that some people may have more sensitive brains than others and can pick up more of what surrounds us all. Same goes for eye sight. Sight comes from the brain. All people can see without eyes, they dream. Some people can see 'ghosts' - to me that would indicate that they have more sensitive (for want of a better word) brains and can see more of what surrounds us all. ?? Maat
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Post by paulh on May 7, 2009 9:25:10 GMT
auditory hallucinations are mis-remembered episodic memories of speech. That should be easily tested by looking for new information and of what kind being obtained by "hallucination" I recall an aboriginal living in the bush explaining that every day his past ancestors told/showed him where to find food. And General Patton said that the night before each battle he would discuss with his deceased grandfather (as I recall) the best tactics for the next day.
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Post by maximus on May 7, 2009 13:51:49 GMT
Dr. Maximus,
IT WORKED! The pro-max thought virus has infected our first subject and it is not being fought off by the host's defense systems - Time to celebrate!Success! The subject needs to be observed closely to ensure there is no relapse. ;D
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Post by maximus on May 7, 2009 20:39:04 GMT
Would you also recommend a booster shot?
Periodically, Dr. P.
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Post by maat on May 7, 2009 23:17:44 GMT
Because the source of those patterns are internally triggered and not the result of patterns being impressed upon the usual auditory hearing mechinisms that do the triggering. In other words, if it's internally triggered, it's imagined; if it's externally triggered, it's concluded to be actual. I understand that under a really powerful microscope the physical body, which the eye recognises, disappears. How then do you know where the borderline is for IN and OUT? We only see our physical bodies as they are because of physical circumstances. Hummingbird wings, spinning spokes of wheels and all that. Are dogs hallucinating when they hear sounds that we can't hear. Are they collectively imagining stuff? And if the sound that they hear is not heard by us, maybe the sound isn't real after all. The machines that pick it up are also internally imagining that such a think exists. With your theory... I guess the bible is a bit of a waste of time, all that speaking to gods, angels, demons and all... ? Doctors! Who can you trust? ;D (Doctors are IN-DOCT(o)rinated too you know, where do you think that term came from? ;D ) Maat (But I do enjoy people who make me think)
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Post by maat on May 7, 2009 23:22:52 GMT
PS - That still does not explain how new and very specific information arrives (via the dream state for me), including names at the time unknown, and direction for what to do in situations that have not yet arisen
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Post by maat on May 7, 2009 23:38:08 GMT
Dr. Welch also read a quote from the British Medical Journal which states that only one percent of all scientific research papers which explore medicine are scientifically sound. www.relfe.com/doctors_kill.htmlDo Dr's of whatever discipline produce more scientifically sound research papers? Or do medical doctors just lag behind ... keep that booster shot on hold, I want to be sure...
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Post by maat on May 11, 2009 2:58:01 GMT
On the science side.... dark matter theory... aren't there a multitude of scientists out there that believe that is more unseen in the Universe, than seen? There could be more to us than meets the eye (or ear).
Maat
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Post by paulh on May 11, 2009 4:10:29 GMT
I used to have a work assistant who, upon experiencing some anomalous or psychic event would exclaim: It's just one of those things! And then she would not think about it again.
I wonder if that is a common strategy to maintain existing belief system.
As for needing ears to hear, from time to time I hear voices when there is no one near. Some of those voices are in the ear and some in the head.
Many years ago I used to wake up hearing dreamed orchestral music but I could never recognise the composition or even the composer.
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Post by generatics on Jun 24, 2009 22:59:41 GMT
This video might have some useful info: bit.ly/3mridHe touches upon this in a few different ways, as I see it anyway. Exercising the physical senses, as well as a lot of talk of "patterns". Pretty interesting vid.
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Post by freemanati on Jul 3, 2009 18:19:45 GMT
The ears function much like the eyes, they allow "information" into the brain for processing and as a result we have vision n hearing, both happen in the brain.
I think the voices shcizo & bi-polar people hear are not hallucinations of any kind but rather a whisper from the other side (4D) in my opinion ..... some good .... some not so good.....most people go whack because they listen to everything they hear internally, it's like listening to eveyone & everything around you hear ..... you'll drive yaself loony.
your thoughts....?
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Post by maat on Jul 5, 2009 23:39:39 GMT
I'm with you on that freemanati. I guess the hard bit is to learn to discriminate between 'outside' influences like that and the 'inside' influence of intuition, that still small voice within.
Maat
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Post by freemanati on Jul 6, 2009 11:00:24 GMT
some outside influence can be good ...
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Post by mgc on Jul 7, 2009 0:18:55 GMT
usually we do need ears to hear, but ive had the xperience that this is not always the case..
2 ppl from a group were talking (about me).. though i was unaware of their convo and was unable to hear them through conventional means, i "picked up" 2 sentences.. when i arrived at the group, i was somehow (i looked all of them in the eye) able to determine who had spoken and verified what they said.. this to me proves telepathy.. i may have scared them a lil bit in the process so im fairly sure they remember if any1 wants to verify this story..
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Post by humbleseeker1 on Jul 7, 2009 15:34:43 GMT
I believe the senses of the Spirit retained inside our bodies, our much more sensative than our bodily senses. In some people these senses are more prone to manifest beyond the restrictions of our temple.
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Post by maat on Jul 8, 2009 0:17:26 GMT
Agree
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Post by humbleseeker1 on Jul 15, 2009 2:39:37 GMT
We all hear, but are we patient in are hearing? Do we wait and listen? I believe that through patients and seeking we can tap into are true self. That being are Spirit. It is a dicipline that I am no master nor I think many are not but I believe God wants us to try to achieve that level. As Jesus said many times "those who have ears to hear listen to what the son of man says" What is the son of man saying to you?
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Post by generatics on Jul 25, 2009 1:38:16 GMT
as they say; See. Hear. Be Silent. something i've been working on personally in my physical world, not around here though obviously. i tend to be a bit quick and let whatever is in my head fly out of my mouth during conversation. trying really hard lately to just shut the heck up. stop. listen. think for a while. and decide whether things are really worth saying beforehand. often they are not, and i am enjoying conversations in a different way. sorry, kind of OT.
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Post by exodiousblackcloud on Sept 8, 2009 2:42:39 GMT
i hear peoples thought all the time i also hear the supercomputer you dont need eyes to see tounge to taste ears to hear etc the ears are only a medium the brain is the only thing that "hears" if you went deaf you could use a computer to read their brain waves and send them to you and you could adjust the voulume tone etc and voila SOUND IS ONCE AGAIN IN YOUR REACH.
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Post by paulh on Sept 8, 2009 4:23:38 GMT
i hear peoples thought all the time Do you hear that as words? How do you test that you have detected the thoughts accurately? Can you turn off your hearing of thoughts?
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