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Post by QUEST on May 8, 2009 20:08:29 GMT
www.sacred-texts.com/egy/tut/tut05.htm .In Hebrew amen means;verily,truly,and certainly. According to Albert Mackey. If amen is a hebrew word, how could there be a cult of amen in egypt? Or is amen and amun the same? Reason why I ask, is are christians using the name of another deity to end their prayers? Thank you.
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Post by paulh on May 8, 2009 21:45:38 GMT
It may be useful to distinguish Christian doctrine from the metaphysical reality of Christ energies.
The formation of the Christian church involved encompassing much previous worship by including those gods as saints (holy beings) inferior to Christ. This allowed converts to avoid repudiating their previous beliefs while embracing the new religion.
This can be observed today in many countries where Catholicism admits devotion to local deities in the guise of non-historical saints
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Post by billmcelligott on May 8, 2009 23:43:32 GMT
This was not a Christian trait, it was a Roman trait. The conquering armies of Rome were extremely successful in adopting many religions into their own belief system.
They were much like the Borg from Star Trek, they assimilated cultures, but then ruled with an iron fist. Of course this is what happened to the Christians.
So to make the point that Christianity cultivated this I would argue is wrong, Rome I say used Christianity as a tool of crowd control. Rome was being eroded by Christian activity in many parts of the Empire and it was this that urged Rome to adopt Christianity.
Rome had come up against many who would die for Gold, but not many who would die for a Faith and the welfare of others. This was the threat they feared.
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Post by QUEST on May 9, 2009 18:20:04 GMT
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Post by maat on May 11, 2009 0:38:30 GMT
Amun Amen Aum A-U-M Aumakhua
The last (Huna) word will probably give you the best hint as to what the preceding might be on about.
Aumakhua is the name for the Highest (principle) in man(kind) and it is dual in nature, being male/female, the Father/Mother god/superconscious. It resides above the physical body (Star in the East?) and does not reside in the physical as does the Ka (subconscious) and the Ba (conscious mind).
These are your three selves which we must work with to harmonise. R.Arch ceremonies indicate what happens when we achieve this.
If you look at the link provided above you will see several clues that the above may be true. Male and Female seated together and the double feathers on the crown..
This dual nature of Sol-Om (Aum)-0n may be reflected in our own ceremony of Raising... where the principal actors are, at one stage, a mirror image or reflection of each other. Positive/Negative united.
Maat
Look at the last letter of the three ruffians... in order.
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Post by maat on May 11, 2009 0:42:31 GMT
Huna holds the belief that the Aumakhua is the perfected or raised state of the two lesser selves, the Ka and the Ba. (And did you know that their word for light is La? - Ka-ba-la ?) Maat
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Post by maat on May 11, 2009 0:44:29 GMT
Huna also has a word for the spirit energy, the word is mana and it is pictured or described as 'a fall of water'.
Makes me think or corn crops.
Maat
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Post by ruffashlar on May 19, 2009 15:44:29 GMT
If amen is a hebrew word, how could there be a cult of amen in egypt?
Although Hebrew and Ancient Egyptian are very distantly related, it must be realised that the Hebrew word is /'MN/ (aleph-mem-nun), transliterated as Amen in English, but cognate with, and identical in meaning to, the Arabic Amin: So be it! or, as we Masons would say, So mote it be!.
Whereas, the Ancient Egyptian word is imn, rendered by Egyptologists as 'Imen, or sometimes Amun, the name of a god: the word is written in hieroglyphs with the reed /i/ and the biliteral /mn/ representing a gaming-board, with the final /n/ repeated for aesthetic effect. Note that the gaming-board seems to represent the snaking of the subterranean, night-dwelling and sun-eating serpent Mehen. Whence perhaps comes the god Imen/Amen/Amun's later identification with the sun-god Ra (Amen-Ra is a common styling of his name). Amun himself is represented as a ram (he was probably originally a protective deity of goatherds), and he came to be associated with the soul's passage through the afterlife, since the word "soul" (Ancient Egyptian: ba) is written, by onomatopoeic association, using a picture of a sheep ;D
Anyway, the point is that Hebrew Amen and Ancient Egyptian Amen are not in any way related, except insofar as similar-sounding names tend to suggest one another in our minds.
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