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Post by billmcelligott on Jul 11, 2009 10:52:58 GMT
11th July 2009 "The situation with the Grand Lodge of Georgia and Gate City Lodge No. 2 will be addressed in a statement I will make public in about 10 days. "The statement you sent me from the brother in Atlanta concerning John Holt is incorrect. As Grand Master of Masons in Georgia, it is my duty to appoint Brothers to positions in Grand Lodge, such as District Deputies, who keep me informed of all things in their sub-districts, that I may be better informed of all situations that may need my input. I felt that I had not been kept informed, not only of the incident with Gate City Lodge No. 2, but with other situations also. This particular District Deputy had made comments in a tyled Lodge meeting stating things that I supposedly had said, comments that simply were not true. As Grand Master, I have to have Brothers on all appointed committees of Grand Lodge to do the best job possible. I felt that this was not happening from this particular District Deputy and I asked him to resign. There is no hard feeling on my part toward John; I am only doing the job I was elected to do. At the same meeting where he resigned, John he told me that he was proud that I presented him his 50-year certificate and that if he lived long enough that he wanted me to present him his 60-year award, which I told him I would be honored to do. It is true that John is a White Cap Scottish Rite Mason and has done a great job in the past, both in the Scottish Rite and the York Rite, and that he has spent eleven years as a District Deputy, but there comes a time when things must change and that time had come. John is still a friend of mine and I look forward to spending time with him in both Scottish and York Rite meetings. "Do not believe all the information you receive on the internet, for much of it is biased and untrue. The best source of information is from "the horses mouth", and I trust that what I have related to you will satisfy your curiosity in these matters." J. Edward Jennings, Jr. Grand Master networkedblogs.com/p7278334you can get more of the background at Chris's blog if needed
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Post by magusmasonica on Jul 12, 2009 19:40:25 GMT
"Do not believe all the information you receive on the internet, for much of it is biased and untrue." GM Jennings This is some sound and sage advice. I wonder if GM Jennings would follow his own advice and suggest the same to his juridiction when it comes to mainstream Masonic tabloids like www.masonicinfo.com ? Love and Light,
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Post by vtmason on Jul 15, 2009 10:22:59 GMT
"Do not believe all the information you receive on the internet, for much of it is biased and untrue." GM Jennings This is some sound and sage advice. I wonder if GM Jennings would follow his own advice and suggest the same to his juridiction when it comes to mainstream Masonic tabloids like www.masonicinfo.com ? Love and Light, I guess it's all relative. I personally have found Brother King's site on of the best on the net
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Post by JulesTheBit on Jul 15, 2009 12:45:43 GMT
It may be that the Georgia GM has decided that he does not want to conduct the discussion of this dispute in the newspapers or on the net. If there's a process for considering the complaint he's entitled to use it. Presenting the evidence in advance of the due process so the trial can be conducted in the papers and a verdict reached in advance is not a good idea, regardless of the rights or wrongs of the matter.
JS
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Post by magusmasonica on Jul 16, 2009 6:15:36 GMT
"Do not believe all the information you receive on the internet, for much of it is biased and untrue." GM Jennings This is some sound and sage advice. I wonder if GM Jennings would follow his own advice and suggest the same to his juridiction when it comes to mainstream Masonic tabloids like www.masonicinfo.com ? Love and Light, I guess it's all relative. I personally have found Brother King's site on of the best on the net I am sure had he written and maintained a slander page against you that you wouldn't feel that way. Your right, it is all relative. At first it hurt my feelings but it has turned out to be some damned good free publicity for us. Funny how things just tend to work out for the best. Love and Light,
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Post by terrible on Jul 16, 2009 13:38:43 GMT
At first it hurt my feelings Then why do you relish doing the same to others? If you don't like what the world is giving back to you, you could always consider what you're giving out.
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Post by magusmasonica on Jul 16, 2009 17:03:14 GMT
At first it hurt my feelings Then why do you relish doing the same to others? If you don't like what the world is giving back to you, you could always consider what you're giving out. The day comes that I create a website dedicated to slandering people I have never met nor spoken with you let me know. Love and Light,
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Post by billmcelligott on Jul 16, 2009 17:12:31 GMT
We do have a tendency to elevate ourselves to that of 'Grand overall know it all' we are all guilty of it.
Except in my case of course I am a Genuine 'Grand overall know it all'.
I noticed someone created a 'GOoUSA Watch', web site , which Ed says he has had nothing to do with. But it is obviously been created to give Ed King some stick, uses the wording from Masonic Info site, - still he can take it. If I ever find out who has created the site I will let you know.
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Post by vtmason on Jul 16, 2009 23:47:23 GMT
I guess it's all relative. I personally have found Brother King's site on of the best on the net I am sure had he written and maintained a slander page against you that you wouldn't feel that way. Your right, it is all relative. At first it hurt my feelings but it has turned out to be some damned good free publicity for us. Funny how things just tend to work out for the best. Love and Light, I guess I hadn't looked for you there. I'm too busy googling Bill McElligott to look for anyone else
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Post by vtmason on Jul 16, 2009 23:50:49 GMT
At first it hurt my feelings Then why do you relish doing the same to others? If you don't like what the world is giving back to you, you could always consider what you're giving out. Dude. We all write our own ticket. If the cat likes the attention he gets from this stuff, let him roll. I'm brushing up for a third degree this week
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Post by brandt on Jul 17, 2009 3:28:44 GMT
The only issue I have with that particular website is the claim that I don't really exist. I certainly do in case you were wondering. On the other hand I should encourage that ideal as I may not have to pay taxes anymore.
brandt
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Post by waynecowley on Jul 17, 2009 11:19:32 GMT
Sorry brethren but I am being exceptionally slow today
What have the posts dated yesterday and today got to do with the GM of Georgia?
(and for those who don't get the hint - please lay off the sarky comments against each other or those who are not here to answer for themselves!)
Wayne
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Post by lauderdale on Aug 21, 2009 17:13:56 GMT
Unless I misunderstand what is printed, that means that the GL of Georgia will admit "persons of color" to their Lodges. If so I salute them for that!
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Post by lauderdale on Aug 22, 2009 9:24:13 GMT
I take it the the GM of Georgia is elected for a fixed term of office and that his edicts have to be ratified by the Grand Lodge itself? A lot different to UGLE then.
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Post by penfold on Aug 22, 2009 11:54:07 GMT
This is only a GM edict. A new GM will be in place at the end of October 2009. This edict has yet to be adopted as part of the GL of Georgia Masonic Code. Until this actually happens it is just an announcement. It mentions nothing about the Gate City Lodge action and the court case. But the announcement has force until the end of the GM's term, correct? Not only would it be a crime against human decency for any lodge to challenge this edict it would be a dark day indeed were it not held up for proposal at the next GL meeting and approved for adoption as permanent policy
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Post by lauderdale on Aug 23, 2009 16:20:53 GMT
"This is still a sad day for US Masonry when matters like this actually have to be made Masonic law because of outright racism within the ranks of the fraternity in some southern states still."
On this we are in 100% agreement. HaB was NOT a WASP!
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Post by maximus on Aug 23, 2009 21:18:12 GMT
It is worth remembering that over 60% of PHA Masons in the USA still remain unrecognized (not in amity) because the white counterpart state mainstream GL will not recognize the PHA GL in that state. Prince Hall Masons seek recognition as a matter of principle, not because they want to visit (or join) predominantly white lodges. Do you know this for a fact, or are you just projecting? The PHA in my state could care less about recognition, they have been approached and rejected the idea.
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Post by lauderdale on Aug 23, 2009 21:51:54 GMT
Perhaps if UGLE unilaterally gave these PHA GLs Recognition whatever the GL in that State thought about it the whole matter would be resolved. Although UGLE is not the Supreme Governing Body of World Freemasonry its opinion and its Recognition is highly prized amongst Malecraft GLs. Such a move would I feel go a long way to kill off residual racism in Freemasonry for all but the die-hard minority.
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