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Post by Nosameerf on Nov 3, 2009 19:56:38 GMT
I have just been watching a fascinating program regarding the symbolism of the Rider-Waite tarot. I was amazed by how much symbolism is contained in each card and their meanings. I was just wondering if anyone could tell me which tarot deck they use and why they like using it. I have to admit that I am becoming quite fascinated with the tarot and would like to learn more, especially because of the relationship between the tarot and kabbalah. Cheers, Nosameerf
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Post by mrmason on Nov 3, 2009 20:34:58 GMT
Hi Nosameerf, I personaly don't have a particular favourite but can recommend the following book.
"The Tarot of the Bohemians" by Papus, ISBN 1 85958 065 3.
First published in 1896 and re-printed in 1994/95.
A very interestng read.
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Post by Nosameerf on Nov 3, 2009 20:51:21 GMT
Thanks MrMason, I will definitely be checking that book out. I don't know much about Papus other than he was a Martinist but that is enough to get me reading. Thanks again.
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Post by middlepillar on Nov 3, 2009 22:34:10 GMT
Hi John
I am no expert on The Tarot (for sure!) There was a great member here who was a well renowned expert (JMD) but unfortunately he no longer visits. I have 2 sets The Waite Rider deck and the original Marseille deck. There are hundreds out there so it is impossible for me to prefer any! I only use them as a meditation aid (similar to scrying) and I use the Waite Rider deck when I do.
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Post by Nosameerf on Nov 3, 2009 22:48:30 GMT
Thanks Chris. I have actually got a tarot deck hidden in my loft that I bought when I was a teenager and subsequently never touched because I didn't have a clue about what the cards actually meant. I think I will dust them off and give them a try. I can't even remember what deck they are. I'll find out tomorrow and report back. Having perused a few websites, I have learnt that some decks have more esoteric meaning than others. Cheers, John
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Post by lauderdale on Nov 3, 2009 23:50:58 GMT
The AE Waite/Pamela Coleman-Smith Tarot. My favourite card is IX The Hermit - he has appeared to me. I also like the Botticelli Tarot.
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Post by Nosameerf on Nov 4, 2009 10:10:47 GMT
The AE Waite/Pamela Coleman-Smith Tarot. My favourite card is IX The Hermit - he has appeared to me. I also like the Botticelli Tarot. I just checked out the Botticelli Tarot. Beautiful! Slightly disturbing but very interesting to look, the Deviant Moon tarot is apparently the most popular in 2008 according to this site: www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/deviant-moon/Check out those pictures!
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Post by maat on Nov 5, 2009 3:04:13 GMT
Tarot holds that same 'secret' that Freemasonry does ! The cards were a method for safely transmitting the information. For this reason I would suggest you forget 'the pretties' and 'the uglies' and seek out the oldest decks or those that were illustrated according to instructions received from the mystics.
Seek out books on the subject by Mouni Sadhu (very in depth); Franz Bardon; Dion Fortune; Corinne Heline (Her book is called The Bible and the Tarot). I am sure many people could add their own favourites to this list.
Maat
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Post by imakegarb on Nov 5, 2009 5:37:01 GMT
Oh, but Bro. Ma'at, I like the pretties My fave deck is the Morgan Greer. Yeah, I hear the folks in back snickering but I do like it. I find the images soothing and I'd say I get as much out of it as I do the Rider Waite or BOTA decks.
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 5, 2009 8:49:31 GMT
What, no Crowley deck fans here? ;D To be honest it doesn't matter to me as I have little interest in divination. On another note I miss JMD. Love and Light,
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Post by happyzealot on Nov 5, 2009 10:49:57 GMT
Oh, but Bro. Ma'at, I like the pretties My fave deck is the Morgan Greer. Yeah, I hear the folks in back snickering but I do like it. I find the images soothing and I'd say I get as much out of it as I do the Rider Waite or BOTA decks. That's a good 'ern. Personally I'll take the BOTA deck because it takes the ubiquitous RW and adapts it to a cohesive teaching system, all without losing the essence of the cards. There's also an Alchemical deck floating around out there which I love. The line art evokes, to me, those enigmatic Renaissance drawings.
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Post by maat on Nov 6, 2009 0:37:13 GMT
JMD fans (and I am one) can find him here .... and a lot of 'really interesting stuff'.... fourhares.com/
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Post by bluebeard on Nov 6, 2009 1:16:47 GMT
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Post by imakegarb on Nov 6, 2009 4:40:47 GMT
Personally I'll take the BOTA deck because it takes the ubiquitous RW and adapts it to a cohesive teaching system, all without losing the essence of the cards. I think this is truly the point. I think the Tarot is intended as a teaching/learning tool and its topic is life, the universe . . . everything. There's a LOT there. Yeah, I know some folks just use it for fortune telling and predicting the future. I'm not saying it *can't* be used that way. But I think sugar cubes could be used for it as well, if one really became adept at reading sugar cubes. I believe the Tarot is meant for something higher but only for those with eyes to see, ears to hear.
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Post by imakegarb on Nov 6, 2009 4:42:12 GMT
Well lookie there. The free dating banner ads have suddenly been replaced by numerology and astrology. Sweet ;D
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Post by letterorhalveit3 on Nov 6, 2009 10:02:41 GMT
For some time Ive had a deck of Buddhist tarot cards, which Ive never done anything with. They seem to be adaptations of the W/R cards but with Buddhist themes. I was also given not to long ago a Waite Rider deck but have to say that Im not really sure where to begin when using tarot cards. I see some books have been recommended. Can anyone who was once a beginner (as we all are) suggest a good book to use to get started. I think the Waite deck has a small book with it, but Ive ignored the deck so that Im not even sure of that. Dag nabbit! Now I'll have to go dig out the deck and get on it.
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Post by magusmasonica on Nov 6, 2009 17:06:03 GMT
The Waite deck does come with a book, it was the first to do so. YouTube has plenty of begining tarot videos. As good a place as any to start.
Love and Light,
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Post by methuselah on Nov 9, 2009 0:37:52 GMT
Different decks for different purposes. The Thoth is interesting for study or a late night freakout; I prefer the Universal Waite w/ Coleman Smiths artwork as a meditational tool/ Qabalah textbook. As Tarot is not a divination device anyway (unless you want to make beer money swindling the straights) it's usage is personal; so should be its selection. The key, really, is to stick with whatever choice you make for the purpose you've chosen it for. Crap- I believe that's a dangling participle. Or something.
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Post by ruffashlar on Nov 27, 2009 18:03:37 GMT
I think the Tarot is as good a tool of divination as anything else. It's like the material people say is good for cold reading: looking at anything is better than looking at nothing - it gives them, they say, something to work with, or against; or whatever it is they do. It's like pictures in the fire, or white noise on TV: it's a random element, something to give you an edge on which direction the moment is taking, or somewhere to track the present back to. An exercise you might want to try (one I've been working on for years, refining and redrawing) is that of making your own Tarot deck: the 22 card one, I mean; you can try your hand at the Major Arcana once you've learned to crawl A Tarot I've found to be very instructive is The Fool of Chaos. This was done using a PC's Paint facility, and it puts the capability of creating a personal Tarot into the hands of even the less talented draughtspeople among us. Once you get the designs the way you like them, you can print them out on photographic quality paper and get them laminated.
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Post by whistler on Nov 29, 2009 4:53:12 GMT
Amongst the many odd things I do is Sell Tarot Decks The selling and the observation of the people is fascinating. Lay a whole range of decks on a table and see how most decks seem to attach themselves to the buyer - not the other way around. Also many people collect Tarot Decks same as some collect stamps. The range of decks is endless - We have a Gay Deck, Kama Sutra, Tatooed Lady, Rider Waite, The Tarot of Dreams is a beautiful deck, The Dali Deck is Pure Dali, the Gummy Bear deck is fun. The 78 Doors Deck full of Mystery, as is the Ship of Fools,& the Tarot of the Dead. Many folk with funny Tats, and rings in odd places buy the Vampire decks , we even have a tiny deck inside a little plastic case on a Key Ring, Sold one of those to a customer who opened the little case in the car park, the wind blew all the cards away - guess those cards weren't for her , We also have a blank deck for the Ruffs of the world who want to draw their own deck. In a Wicked moment I Imagine giving a reading with those cards as you turn the cards up for them "I am sorry you have no future, next card, sorry you have no past, next card, sorry, sorry etc" Prices of Decks range from a few Dollars to over $200 and tarot people come from all walks of life. The art work on many decks is fascinating and the symbols drawn by the creators of those packs are just as interesting as the symbols we find in our Lodges
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