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Jan 20, 2014 15:51:41 GMT
Post by sammy on Jan 20, 2014 15:51:41 GMT
Hello all! I know its been a while since I have posted. I figured I would at least keep up with my theories more recent developments. Im always trying new ways to look at and explain the interaction I see going on around us. The explanation of my theory is actually simple, but explaining how it associates to us is more daunting then I imagined. As I said the explanation is simple, and that was key in producing the theory. To me it HAD to make sense, and not just on why and what we do. I wanted to break it down to its lowest form of interaction to try and study/understand it. I believe I did that with "-O+", being the minimal involvement for something to exist. I had the best luck associating the theory with electrical symbols, as it is a energy we are dealing with, I figured it was best suited (the symbols portrayed more in connection then I knew at the time). Prior to this I had always tried explaining things in how they connect to everything, but that was my focus. Ill change my focus to show how I see ourselves connecting to this source of energy, and why things can go wrong. Basic electrical knowledge: From a power source always connect positive to positive, and negative to negative. You might have heard the expression "sparks flew"... Well in this one not much is left afterwards. You get the idea. Most importantly it completes the circuit allowing a cycle. So to start we have ourselves, our body is the neutral. This would be the "machine" that we are going to power. Then we have the power source, the breaker box in this scenario. For us we are able to work in safety by shutting this off or rather "thinking" about things before we do it. Using what we see and know to do so. When we do a action in life it makes a possible circuit, like placing wires from the power to the machine. However when we actually place a wire the power is live, as we are doing those things in a live world and consequences can be devastating. Placing wires: When working with electricity the positive (live) wire, is usually red because of its danger involved. The ground wire is usually grey or black. Our source, being the constant in providing the energy, is the positive connection. The Earth being our constant for ground, is the grey since I already used black. Doing our actions through the ground completes the circuit offering its energy to others and advancing the continuous cycle of growth. Now if someone were to try to connect their "intake" or positive wire to the Earth, and ground it to themselves. It will leave the source out of their circuit. What this person would leave behind is from themselves, and can only grow for them. This growth is a negative energy however. It will never complete a circuit right, and will eventually be grounded back to the Earth. The time in between is lost, because no advancements as a whole were made pertaining to this line. Nothing was left behind to encourage a positive result from the source, leaving the circuit as a loss. Its this focus that really matters, helping others toward the wire. Every thought to support a positive path will increase the strength and speed in which we travel. Our advancements are many!
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Jan 21, 2014 1:21:40 GMT
Post by beejay on Jan 21, 2014 1:21:40 GMT
In most people the higher (more positive) energy comes from above and goes through the body into the Earth. This is not always the case as some self-centred people generate positive charge in themselves that repels the higher energy. These people are difficult when embedded in a group as the group will generally also have trouble with energy flows.
The natural flow occurs when there is a good relationship with the Earth Mother and the Cosmic Father.
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Jan 22, 2014 11:28:49 GMT
Post by Marcus on Jan 22, 2014 11:28:49 GMT
. Opinion -- All that can manifests in this here and now is energy in vibration. (see M-theory extension of string theory) We, even our very thoughts are energy in vibration. Stephen Hawking says all matter of the universe could be condensed to the size of a pea. Energy fields are the matrix fabric of all matter and all that exists. We humans use matter to enable life. Life and matter are not the same. This planet was a barren rock for most of it’s past. It will return to that state but life will move on in it's own realm. I think we Master Masons must draw a very real distinction between the worlds of the physical, the psychological and the spiritual. Humans are the temporary connection of these three realms. Energy is the fabric of the physical plane, symbolised the black and white floor of the temple, a psychical dimension for life and man to manifest. Man is the trinity (three degrees) body, mind and spirit. A temporal Unification or connecting ladder. Energy fields have geomertry, rules, attractions and decay patterens. these are governed by ? .
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Jan 22, 2014 13:14:20 GMT
Post by sammy on Jan 22, 2014 13:14:20 GMT
Perhaps in tandem like in our involvement with body, mind, and spirit. Perhaps matter is God's body, the center of space his mind, and the energy throughout his spirit. In other words one would govern the other equally to create this reality.
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Jan 22, 2014 23:07:15 GMT
Post by beejay on Jan 22, 2014 23:07:15 GMT
>matter is God's body, the center of space his mind, and the energy throughout his spirit.
Not a bad analogy, although matter, energy and spirit can be regarded as a spectrum rather than separate manifestations.
If the Earth is alive (Gaia) then so are the other planets, and by implication the solar system. And does the solar system in its turn exist within a greater entity?
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Jan 23, 2014 5:10:16 GMT
Post by Tamrin on Jan 23, 2014 5:10:16 GMT
If the Earth is alive (Gaia) then so are the other planets... This does not follow. Just because one body is alive does not mean that all are. James Lovelock, the modern reviver of the Gaia theory, postulated that the Earth was alive because, applying Systems Theory, it met the broad definition of a living organism, dynamically (rather than mechanically) maintaining various life-friendly cycles within certain limits. This does not necessarily apply to another planet where the spark of life may never have taken hold on that peculiar conglomeration of matter or it may have long since been extinguished. Albeit, lesser systems, such as atoms and molecules on a non-living planet may demonstrate basic signs of life, maintaining themselves in an organic sense, but the conglomerations they form seem to be in a process of passive decay, lacking, for want of a better word, a unifying "soul".
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Jan 23, 2014 16:10:18 GMT
Post by sammy on Jan 23, 2014 16:10:18 GMT
If the Earth is alive (Gaia) then so are the other planets... This does not follow. Just because one body is alive does not mean that all are. James Lovelock, the modern reviver of the Gaia theory, postulated that the Earth was alive because, applying Systems Theory, it met the broad definition of a living organism, dynamically (rather than mechanically) maintaining various life-friendly cycles within certain limits. This does not necessarily apply to another planet where the spark of life may never have taken hold on that peculiar conglomeration of matter or it may have long since been extinguished. Albeit, lesser systems, such as atoms and molecules on a non-living planet may demonstrate basic signs of life, maintaining themselves in an organic sense, but the conglomerations they form seem to be in a process of passive decay, lacking, for want of a better word, a unifying "soul". I had never considered this, and thank you for posting it! I am curious though if the energy and collection of mass could be habitable to a spirit/energy and just not life. Perhaps barren would be a better word. Since it would be alive in the aspect of planets, just not able to give birth to life from within.
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Jan 23, 2014 22:32:53 GMT
Post by beejay on Jan 23, 2014 22:32:53 GMT
It is up to the spirit whether it considers a material structure to be suitable as a form. For example large gem stones may attract spirits that then give rise to the various legends.
Where the material structure is home to many forms of life, e.g. a planet, those life forms may result in an aggregation of emotional and mental substance that can be modified by a higher being to generate its own inner vehicles.
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Jan 26, 2014 2:32:47 GMT
Post by sammy on Jan 26, 2014 2:32:47 GMT
It is up to the spirit whether it considers a material structure to be suitable as a form. For example large gem stones may attract spirits that then give rise to the various legends. Where the material structure is home to many forms of life, e.g. a planet, those life forms may result in an aggregation of emotional and mental substance that can be modified by a higher being to generate its own inner vehicles. Too right. For fun I decided to see if planets might fit the bill for spirit life. Here is one quote I found right off the bat. I think one of the most often asked questions is "Why do spirits inhabit items?" Well, first, what types of items do spirits inhabit or haunt? The answer is, just about anything. Some of the most common, though, are: •Dolls •Teddy bears •Bottles •Boxes •Jewels or amulets •Vases and urns •Mirrors and pictures •Antique furniture So why do spirits choose to inhabit items? Well, my opinion is that they tend to attach themselves to something that was very important or special to them while they were alive.
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Jan 27, 2014 16:29:14 GMT
Post by nventr on Jan 27, 2014 16:29:14 GMT
Hello all! I know its been a while since I have posted. I figured I would at least keep up with my theories more recent developments. Im always trying new ways to look at and explain the interaction I see going on around us. The explanation of my theory is actually simple, but explaining how it associates to us is more daunting then I imagined. As I said the explanation is simple, and that was key in producing the theory. To me it HAD to make sense, and not just on why and what we do. I wanted to break it down to its lowest form of interaction to try and study/understand it. I believe I did that with "-O+", being the minimal involvement for something to exist. I had the best luck associating the theory with electrical symbols, as it is a energy we are dealing with, I figured it was best suited (the symbols portrayed more in connection then I knew at the time). Prior to this I had always tried explaining things in how they connect to everything, but that was my focus. Ill change my focus to show how I see ourselves connecting to this source of energy, and why things can go wrong. Basic electrical knowledge: From a power source always connect positive to positive, and negative to negative. You might have heard the expression "sparks flew"... Well in this one not much is left afterwards. You get the idea. Most importantly it completes the circuit allowing a cycle. So to start we have ourselves, our body is the neutral. This would be the "machine" that we are going to power. Then we have the power source, the breaker box in this scenario. For us we are able to work in safety by shutting this off or rather "thinking" about things before we do it. Using what we see and know to do so. When we do a action in life it makes a possible circuit, like placing wires from the power to the machine. However when we actually place a wire the power is live, as we are doing those things in a live world and consequences can be devastating. Placing wires: When working with electricity the positive (live) wire, is usually red because of its danger involved. The ground wire is usually grey or black. Our source, being the constant in providing the energy, is the positive connection. The Earth being our constant for ground, is the grey since I already used black. Doing our actions through the ground completes the circuit offering its energy to others and advancing the continuous cycle of growth. Now if someone were to try to connect their "intake" or positive wire to the Earth, and ground it to themselves. It will leave the source out of their circuit. What this person would leave behind is from themselves, and can only grow for them. This growth is a negative energy however. It will never complete a circuit right, and will eventually be grounded back to the Earth. The time in between is lost, because no advancements as a whole were made pertaining to this line. Nothing was left behind to encourage a positive result from the source, leaving the circuit as a loss. Its this focus that really matters, helping others toward the wire. Every thought to support a positive path will increase the strength and speed in which we travel. Our advancements are many! Hey Sammy! I am so excited that you have returned to this thread! Let’s start with the picture. I do believe that there are 2 energies. The myths and and parables reflect a dual energy system that requires the enhancement of the inherent personal energy in order to bring forth the divine opposite energy. Enhancement of the personal energy is called the exoteric path. Enhancement of the divine opposite energy is called the esoteric path. Historically the energy that flows upward from the Earth Mother is known as Fire, Blood, Wine, Kundalini, Passion. This energy is always denoted as Red or Black and is feminine, emotional, and positive. The path associated with this energy is known as : The Path of the King, The Warrior’s Path, the The Hero’s Quest, The Path of the Sword, The Way of Passion. This path is all about killing ego. The energy that flows downward from Father Sky is known as Light, Lightening, Water (rain or snow), Bread, Mana, Grace. This energy is always denoted as White and is masculine, intellectual, and negative. The path associated with this energy is known as : The Grail Path, The Virgin’s Path, The Way of Grace, This path is all about giving birth to your divine purpose in life. The 2 energies are commonly symbolized as Black and White of the Yin/Yang and the black and white floor in a Masonic Hall OR The Red(Wine) and White(Bread) of the Christian faith. Both energies and their associated spiritual paths are valid. The crux or key of all spiritual development is BALANCE. If you are an intellectual personality, it is important to enhance the emotions by bringing up the Kundalini or Passion. (Shocking initiations like the one with the loose around the neck and the 3rd degree) If you are an emotional personality, it is important to enhance the intellect by bringing down Light or Grace. (Explanations and trainings all harbored in patience) There is no one right spiritual path - BUT - there is a right spiritual path for each individual. This is why I always say: The road runs both ways.
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Jan 28, 2014 0:59:55 GMT
Post by peter2 on Jan 28, 2014 0:59:55 GMT
I do believe that there are 2 energies. .... Historically the energy that flows upward from the Earth Mother .... The energy that flows downward from Father Sky is ... The meeting of the vertical flows can often be seen at places of pilgrimage in Europe - where I have noticed it is relatively common for the layers of rock to be tilted from the horizontal to be close to vertical - thus facilitating the horizontal Earth flows to become vertical and interact more closely with the cosmic inflows. Here is an example from Iona
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Jan 28, 2014 2:07:53 GMT
Post by sammy on Jan 28, 2014 2:07:53 GMT
Hey Sammy! I am so excited that you have returned to this thread! Let’s start with the picture. I do believe that there are 2 energies. The myths and and parables reflect a dual energy system that requires the enhancement of the inherent personal energy in order to bring forth the divine opposite energy. Enhancement of the personal energy is called the exoteric path. Enhancement of the divine opposite energy is called the esoteric path. Historically the energy that flows upward from the Earth Mother is known as Fire, Blood, Wine, Kundalini, Passion. This energy is always denoted as Red or Black and is feminine, emotional, and positive. The path associated with this energy is known as : The Path of the King, The Warrior’s Path, the The Hero’s Quest, The Path of the Sword, The Way of Passion. This path is all about killing ego. The energy that flows downward from Father Sky is known as Light, Lightening, Water (rain or snow), Bread, Mana, Grace. This energy is always denoted as White and is masculine, intellectual, and negative. The path associated with this energy is known as : The Grail Path, The Virgin’s Path, The Way of Grace, This path is all about giving birth to your divine purpose in life. The 2 energies are commonly symbolized as Black and White of the Yin/Yang and the black and white floor in a Masonic Hall OR The Red(Wine) and White(Bread) of the Christian faith. Both energies and their associated spiritual paths are valid. The crux or key of all spiritual development is BALANCE. If you are an intellectual personality, it is important to enhance the emotions by bringing up the Kundalini or Passion. (Shocking initiations like the one with the loose around the neck and the 3rd degree) If you are an emotional personality, it is important to enhance the intellect by bringing down Light or Grace. (Explanations and trainings all harbored in patience) There is no one right spiritual path - BUT - there is a right spiritual path for each individual. This is why I always say: The road runs both ways. Great to see you too! Very cool and affirming information! I do tend to use both methods, however I think I fit the bill better for emotional. As patience and explanations is what I work on the most. I would more then agree balance is most needed.
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Jan 28, 2014 2:11:27 GMT
Post by sammy on Jan 28, 2014 2:11:27 GMT
I do believe that there are 2 energies. .... Historically the energy that flows upward from the Earth Mother .... The energy that flows downward from Father Sky is ... The meeting of the vertical flows can often be seen at places of pilgrimage in Europe - where I have noticed it is relatively common for the layers of rock to be tilted from the horizontal to be close to vertical - thus facilitating the horizontal Earth flows to become vertical and interact more closely with the cosmic inflows. Here is an example from Iona Very true, as well as the plants and trees. Life longs for the stars.
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Feb 21, 2014 13:46:37 GMT
Post by crossbow on Feb 21, 2014 13:46:37 GMT
If the Earth is alive (Gaia) then so are the other planets... This does not follow. Just because one body is alive does not mean that all are. Hello Tamrin,
It may depend on how we define life, and more significantly, What life is. What if life/consciousness of a sort were everywhere? even in the rock, and the atom? If matter is an expression of life from one direction, and the soul is an expression of life from another (opposite?) direction. Then might life as we are most familiar with it be composite? as in two or more life expressions coming together as a manifest assembly. For instance, when a person dies we might assume the soul has departed in one direction. And now the body and its systems no longer function. And yet the body's collection of matter, its atoms, are still in their motions, just as they were before. And who knows, these atoms might be an expression of life from another direction. Thus the soul and the body together may be two life streams from different directions meeting.
A dead planet, void of planetary systems as we know them, and none or little internal heat or geological activity, just a sphere of rock or gas, might seem dead - something like our moon - yet its atoms are in motion. Perhaps such a planet is just a singular life, uninhabited by other life streams. Even then, perhaps it has near parallel sub-streams that contribute to its array of elements, that is, if elements and their atoms be conscious life. Perhaps life and consciousness is everywhere, and of such wide variety of type that we cannot relate to it. But who knows, much of the life we can't perceive or relate to might perceive us.
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Feb 21, 2014 14:03:13 GMT
Post by sammy on Feb 21, 2014 14:03:13 GMT
This does not follow. Just because one body is alive does not mean that all are. Hello Tamrin,
It may depend on how we define life, and more significantly, What life is. What if life/consciousness of a sort were everywhere? even in the rock, and the atom? If matter is an expression of life from one direction, and the soul is an expression of life from another (opposite?) direction. Then might life as we are most familiar with it be composite? as in two or more life expressions coming together as a manifest assembly. For instance, when a person dies we might assume the soul has departed in one direction. And now the body and its systems no longer function. And yet the body's collection of matter, its atoms, are still in their motions, just as they were before. And who knows, these atoms might be an expression of life from another direction. Thus the soul and the body together may be two life streams from different directions meeting.
A dead planet, void of planetary systems as we know them, and none or little internal heat or geological activity, just a sphere of rock or gas, might seem dead - something like our moon - yet its atoms are in motion. Perhaps such a planet is just a singular life, uninhabited by other life streams. Even then, perhaps it has near parallel sub-streams that contribute to its array of elements, that is, if elements and their atoms be conscious life. Perhaps life and consciousness is everywhere, and of such wide variety of type that we cannot relate to it. But who knows, much of the life we can't perceive or relate to might perceive us.
WEEE!! Awesome words! Thanks for sharing them! It gave me a lot to think about HAHA
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Feb 21, 2014 15:38:53 GMT
Post by Tamrin on Feb 21, 2014 15:38:53 GMT
Best if one also reads the second paragraph. If the Earth is alive (Gaia) then so are the other planets... This does not follow. Just because one body is alive does not mean that all are. James Lovelock, the modern reviver of the Gaia theory, postulated that the Earth was alive because, applying Systems Theory, it met the broad definition of a living organism, dynamically (rather than mechanically) maintaining various life-friendly cycles within certain limits. This does not necessarily apply to another planet where the spark of life may never have taken hold on that peculiar conglomeration of matter or it may have long since been extinguished. Albeit, lesser systems, such as atoms and molecules on a non-living planet may demonstrate basic signs of life, maintaining themselves in an organic sense, but the conglomerations they form seem to be in a process of passive decay, lacking, for want of a better word, a unifying "soul".
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Feb 21, 2014 17:00:31 GMT
Post by sammy on Feb 21, 2014 17:00:31 GMT
Best if one also reads the second paragraph. This does not follow. Just because one body is alive does not mean that all are. James Lovelock, the modern reviver of the Gaia theory, postulated that the Earth was alive because, applying Systems Theory, it met the broad definition of a living organism, dynamically (rather than mechanically) maintaining various life-friendly cycles within certain limits. This does not necessarily apply to another planet where the spark of life may never have taken hold on that peculiar conglomeration of matter or it may have long since been extinguished. Albeit, lesser systems, such as atoms and molecules on a non-living planet may demonstrate basic signs of life, maintaining themselves in an organic sense, but the conglomerations they form seem to be in a process of passive decay, lacking, for want of a better word, a unifying "soul". I believe the issue lies in the definition of "alive". By our standards of living organisms, some might exist on other planets frozen or in stasis but yes Earth is our only known source of complete living ecosystem. If you take into account a spiritual life or "soul", we would not know such standards of life as we have nothing to compare too except laws of physics and thermodynamics. As they represent the below, to portray the above. By our standards...
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Feb 21, 2014 20:34:07 GMT
Post by Tamrin on Feb 21, 2014 20:34:07 GMT
I believe the issue lies in the definition of "alive". Best then to agree on the definition. "There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept" (Ansel Adams).
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Feb 21, 2014 21:11:08 GMT
Post by Tamrin on Feb 21, 2014 21:11:08 GMT
Life clearly does more than adapt to the Earth. It changes the Earth to its own purposes. Evolution is a tightly coupled dance, with life and the material environment as partners. From the dance emerges the entity Gaia
James Lovelock
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Feb 21, 2014 21:16:00 GMT
Post by Tamrin on Feb 21, 2014 21:16:00 GMT
One of the key insights of the systems approach has been the realization that the network is a pattern that is common to all life. Wherever we see life, we see networks
Fritjof Capra
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