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Post by asiinja on Nov 8, 2010 16:46:44 GMT
So where does "dark matter" fit into all of this? The fact is, duality must be in order for existence to exist. Without "opposites" there can be no individual existence. Light is not necessarily benign ("Let the light devour men and eat them up with blindness!") and darkness is not necessarily synonymous with evil; you can't see anything with a light shining in your eyes any more than you can in total blackness! On the Sufi Path, "Black" is equated with WISDOM, and "Osiris (the Lord of Righteousness) is a BLACK God"!. The MIDDLE PATH is what is advocated; notice the nearly equal number of BLACK and WHITE squares at the heart of the Masonic Temple! (Isn't there one more White square than the Black? Or are they equal in number? I've always wanted to know that!) Black matter is an huge amount of light into a very small place. At least that is what some think, noeone is ready to speak about it with certainety. This brings me too the fact that too mutch of something is never good. There has "as said multiple times before" a balance between light and darkness. "About that star, you would when aprouching the star at a sudden moment see this star explode " or any other fenomena that can urge to a star" while this certain action has maybe already taken place years ago." "And about that stephen hawkins discusion, the man doesn't make too many sense too me, he is too far evaded from the exact sciences. -You can't withstain the speed of light -Traveling at the speed of light wouldnt make you produce fotons -He talks more about filosofy then science Well seems I don't have too mutch respect for the mans point of vieuw, well at least not anymore. But who am I to judge others. Piece to all!
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Post by Zita on Nov 8, 2010 22:15:16 GMT
Does Light always triumph over Darkness? If one evolves - yes. Darkness is only that which we can't see with our physical eyes. imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/emspectrum.htmlAs we work towards an increase in Light (expanded consciousness) we will begin to see more than what previously met the eye. And increase in Light may be viewed as the promise of an increase in the masonic wages, and the privilege of 'ever greater service in His Holy Temple'. When our personal Light encompasses the whole Spectrum, for us there will be no darkness, for we will see and understand. Is there a battle between Light and Darkness? Not really, imo. The only battle is with our selves. Are we willing to persevere throughout the ordeal of our initiation here on Earth? Are we willing to open our minds and hearts enough to accept the guidance that comes our way? The Teacher is always there. Remember the hand of the unseen friend who met you at the door of the temple...
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Post by Zita on Nov 8, 2010 22:19:42 GMT
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Post by asiinja on Nov 9, 2010 11:18:31 GMT
Does Light always triumph over Darkness? If one evolves - yes. Darkness is only that which we can't see with our physical eyes. imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/emspectrum.htmlAs we work towards an increase in Light (expanded consciousness) we will begin to see more than what previously met the eye. And increase in Light may be viewed as the promise of an increase in the masonic wages, and the privilege of 'ever greater service in His Holy Temple'. When our personal Light encompasses the whole Spectrum, for us there will be no darkness, for we will see and understand. Is there a battle between Light and Darkness? Not really, imo. The only battle is with our selves. Are we willing to persevere throughout the ordeal of our initiation here on Earth? Are we willing to open our minds and hearts enough to accept the guidance that comes our way? The Teacher is always there. Remember the hand of the unseen friend who met you at the door of the temple... I do not agreee, light is not only what we see with our eyes. The full ''light '' spectrum as it is called contains other waves too. And in the full fysical meaning, darkness is just the space/time where within light travels. Darkness is not nothing, it is a matter vaster then light as it withstains light.
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Post by Zita on Nov 11, 2010 2:44:39 GMT
I rather suspect that light does not 'travel' at all.
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Post by asiinja on Nov 11, 2010 12:15:04 GMT
I rather suspect that light does not 'travel' at all. Strange choise of words. Well it does travel. One of the main facileties of all sorts of energy is that they move themselfs trough other matters and materials. This is because any and I say ANY sort of energy consists of: molecules, atoms, ions, fotons, smaller matters that vibrate constantly. That is energy and light is one of them containing vibrating fotons able to penetrate even trough vast mediums like human skin and others. Both UV, infra red, and visible light but also cosmic vibrations and etheral vibrations all consist of the same type of vibrating fotons, the difference in those ''beams'' if I can call them that is that they vibrate differently.
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Post by Zita on Nov 12, 2010 0:07:43 GMT
Do ocean waves travel?
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Post by Zita on Nov 12, 2010 0:09:48 GMT
If a photon is part of a standing wave (which technically does not travel), the apparent movement is a function of frequency relationships of underlaying waveforms.
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Post by Zita on Nov 12, 2010 0:11:00 GMT
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Post by asiinja on Nov 12, 2010 13:51:44 GMT
This is not even close anymore to what I was talking about.
Let's talk about french fries?
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Post by hyperion on Nov 12, 2010 23:43:41 GMT
I have always found "the North" being a place of darkness in many Masonic Rites to be totally fascinating. It from my point of view could mean a host of things. From the depths of the belly of Cronos to the pure knowledge found within the womb of mother Chaos.
The possibilities are endless.
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Post by asiinja on Nov 13, 2010 11:17:13 GMT
What do you exactly mean with "The North"
And I see I was right about you beleaving in greek mythology. Truely interesting! Wich to hear more about it if you have some time!
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Post by vajranagini on Nov 13, 2010 15:13:40 GMT
Actually the "battle between darkness and light" is a spiritual REALITY. The whole of Hindu mythology, in fact, is predicated on the ongoing battles between the suras ("daevas" or "beings of light; "Sura" is a name of the Sun) and the a-suras. ("daemons" or "beings without light") down the Ages.
The a-suras periodically overthrow the daevas, who them have to appeal to the GODS (the Trimurti; generally Vishnu but Shiva also takes part occasionally; thers is also a similar tradition among the Shaktas, or worshippers of the Great Goddess) to help them return to their positions as guardians of the natural order.
In point of fact, this dynamic is necessary to prevent stagnation; the daevas hold the crown for millions of years and, as I said, are the guardians of the Cosmos or "natural order" But they also eventually become complacent and stagnant, and thus the a-suras have their opportunity to overthrow them and "seize power"...which is invariably a comparatively SHORT period, lasting only, say, a few THOUSAND years instead of MILLIONS.
In fact, we are in such a period at the present time;the Kali Yuga (Black Aeon) is when the a-suras/daemons/beings of darkness are in power. There is NO question in my mind that this is so; one has only to look around. The Kali Yuga eventually segues into the "Ghora Yuga" ("Fearsome Aeon" AKA "Apocalypse" , "Armageddon" "End-of Days") and the battle rages, ending in the overthrow of the daemons and the restoration of the Daevas, which period is called the "Sat Yuga" ("Aeon of Truth") .
I have excellent reason to believe that December 22, 2012, will mark the commencement of "Ghora Yuga". Nothing that would satisfy the people on the board, of course, but that doesn't bother me; if I am WRONG, no harm done. But if I am RIGHT...
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Post by asiinja on Nov 13, 2010 16:01:30 GMT
Actually the "battle between darkness and light" is a spiritual REALITY. The whole of Hindu mythology, in fact, is predicated on the ongoing battles between the suras ("daevas" or "beings of light; "Sura" is a name of the Sun) and the a-suras. ("daemons" or "beings without light") down the Ages. The a-suras periodically overthrow the daevas, who them have to appeal to the GODS (the Trimurti; generally Vishnu but Shiva also takes part occasionally; thers is also a similar tradition among the Shaktas, or worshippers of the Great Goddess) to help them return to their positions as guardians of the natural order. In point of fact, this dynamic is necessary to prevent stagnation; the daevas hold the crown for millions of years and, as I said, are the guardians of the Cosmos or "natural order" But they also eventually become complacent and stagnant, and thus the a-suras have their opportunity to overthrow them and "seize power"...which is invariably a comparatively SHORT period, lasting only, say, a few THOUSAND years instead of MILLIONS. In fact, we are in such a period at the present time;the Kali Yuga (Black Aeon) is when the a-suras/daemons/beings of darkness are in power. There is NO question in my mind that this is so; one has only to look around. The Kali Yuga eventually segues into the "Ghora Yuga" ("Fearsome Aeon" AKA "Apocalypse" , "Armageddon" "End-of Days") and the battle rages, ending in the overthrow of the daemons and the restoration of the Daevas, which period is called the "Sat Yuga" ("Aeon of Truth") . I have excellent reason to believe that December 22, 2012, will mark the commencement of "Ghora Yuga". Nothing that would satisfy the people on the board, of course, but that doesn't bother me; if I am WRONG, no harm done. But if I am RIGHT... Ahum ( tries not to laugh with the above topic ) Why would we end there?
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Post by vajranagini on Nov 14, 2010 20:17:36 GMT
So why would you 'try not to laugh'? I am entirely serious. I have not spoken of any 'ending" other than that of the Kali Yuga. But, when one takes an actual look at the current situation in the world; with ever-rising levels of pollution with NO end in sight , the acidifying of the ocean, the gigantic oil Gulf spill that nobody talks about anymore, (but which has by no means 'gone away), the 70,000+ nuclear weapons (with a combined capacity of global destruction 32 times over) , the deteriorating nuclear reactors (did you know that one of the reasons the Arctic seas may be melting at an accelerated rate may be due to the fact that Russia and gawd knows who else has been towing their old nuclear reactors out to the Arctic ocean and DUMPING them. Last I heard and this was YEARS ago, there were 16+that 'they' knew of; there are probably many more than that NOW) there can be no question that it is all going to 'come to a head' someday SOON.
This is not like back in medieval days when just about the worst that could happen ("God's wrath") would consist of a famine, a plague, or a war; no, now we have that available to us which can decimate on a country-wide scale. Feel free to snigger and ridicule NOW while you still can; it is quite clear you have no real idea of the actual scope of the situation, and when you DO, you will not have time; you will have OTHER things to think about, like SURVIVAL.
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Post by Zita on Nov 14, 2010 22:53:03 GMT
I have always found "the North" being a place of darkness in many Masonic Rites to be totally fascinating. It from my point of view could mean a host of things. From the depths of the belly of Cronos to the pure knowledge found within the womb of mother Chaos. The possibilities are endless. You might find some answers at this site hyperion en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KabbalahNote the three pillars, one of which is black (NOT evil) Note that Daath is hidden (and means Knowledge) That above the Abyss, all is hidden from us (we are in the dark) As we gain those 'eyes that see' the darkness disappears. As we become more knowledgeable in matters of Spirit we gain Understanding.
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Post by Zita on Nov 14, 2010 22:55:13 GMT
What do you exactly mean with "The North" I take it that you are not a Freemason ?
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Post by asiinja on Nov 15, 2010 20:48:38 GMT
Does that matter? I was just asking what that north was you are speaking of.
North is a place of darkness where the sun never comes in many beleaves.
But also a place of wisdom in many pagan beleaves, it is a place where one can strangely, find light.
So I just ask what is the fylosofy behind this north you speak of?
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Post by jayman on Nov 15, 2010 20:59:31 GMT
Does that matter? I was just asking what that north was you are speaking of. North is a place of darkness where the sun never comes in many beleaves. But also a place of wisdom in many pagan beleaves, it is a place where one can strangely, find light. So I just ask what is the fylosofy behind this north you speak of? "The North" is a place within a masonic lodge.
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Post by asiinja on Nov 15, 2010 21:24:45 GMT
So it is a place in the northern " gonna call it corner" of the lodge wich resembles?
Darkness? The guiding path? Wisdom? Enrichment? Air?
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