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Post by dreamsailor75 on Jun 29, 2011 21:20:01 GMT
I found out God is more like a bird of fire. And the second coming involves a stone!
I am over joyed to find out that there really is a god, and a second coming. (I never believed in either)
But I don't know of any churches where I can go. I can't talk to any Christians I know of. Associating Jesus with a tiny, flaming casket, made of strange green stone will get me called a satanist for sure!
What should I do?
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Post by vajranagini on Jun 30, 2011 2:39:18 GMT
Somebody once likened God to "a quantity of little pears". Another described God as "having a hawk's head..having a spiral force"
Anyopne who has encountered the Divine knows It to be a state of consciousness, devoid of images of any sort, thus indescribable. Which, when you think about it, is as it should be...
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Post by sammy on Jun 30, 2011 14:55:53 GMT
Somebody once likened God to "a quantity of little pears". Another described God as "having a hawk's head..having a spiral force" Anyopne who has encountered the Divine knows It to be a state of consciousness, devoid of images of any sort, thus indescribable. Which, when you think about it, is as it should be... I agree, I think the "images" are just to lead to the desired frame of mind. Or rather what it takes for you to reach the desired thought. Which we know is different for everyone, and why it doesnt always transfer for description. I found out God is more like a bird of fire. And the second coming involves a stone!
I am over joyed to find out that there really is a god, and a second coming. (I never believed in either)
But I don't know of any churches where I can go. I can't talk to any Christians I know of. Associating Jesus with a tiny, flaming casket, made of strange green stone will get me called a satanist for sure!
What should I do?
I would suggest starting by reading the bible, If you do it from the beggining skip past the geneology stuff cause its long and realy boring HAHA. If you feal you have a mission with the book you will know more what kind of church you want to attend. Don't go rushing to church to be saved, save yourself and the church will support your choice in that path. Do your homework on it though, beliefs have to be believable to you.
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Post by dreamsailor75 on Jun 30, 2011 21:28:21 GMT
How I found out has been a process. It may take a bit of explaining. But I want to take the time because there is chance others know about this. First, about six months ago, I was shown the stone. I had never even heard of the stone at that time. Nor did I believe in God. After seeing it, I believe in God now. No one could see it and not believe! IT IS LIT FROM WITHIN with the splendor of a God. You can SEE with your eyes the actual "splendor" and majesty of a God. Upon this stone are many images and things. Some of these things are alive. As is possibly the entire green "stone" material of which the stone is made. One thing upon the stone is an Ark. Not THE Ark. But An Ark. I found out that an Ark consists of a "Death/Dark/Ying" side, a "Life/Light/Yang" side, and a seat in the middle.
(Or a saddle, hint, hint).
Evidently an Arks size is not as important as its ratio of height to length. And of course God has to give it the supernatural magic. Also upon this stone is a cup. It is cup like I have never imagined a cup could be. It is a cup fit for a living god because the cup is alive! It is beautiful, has wings, and is filled with fire and blinding light. This Ark also appears at sometimes as if it is on fire with totally clear, pure, flame. And sometimes it looks to be behind pure, clear, glass. And other times it is like it is behind pure, clear, water. Yet it is not wet, not behind glass, nor does it burn the skin.
If you look at the stone from one side, it makes a huge throne and desk. With someone "sitting" on it. If you look at the stone from the other side, it makes a casket. "Sitting" on it is a hideous, boogy-man/beast skull with fangs, tusks, and eyes that look right back at you.
Most terrifying thing I have ever seen is this stone. It is also the most precious, cutest, thing I have ever seen because it is little. By the way, the throne, desk, and doo-dads on it are Gods mobile office! I AM NOT MAKING A JOKE. This stone is a piece of technology. It is God's Laptop.
So after seeing this I got extremely angry. There are no real technological barriers! World hunger, AIDS, Cancer, energy crisis', addictions, all of it, is happening because this God is letting it!
After seeing this stone, I figured that this God was figuring out walking on water, water to wine, and levitation BILLIONS of years ago! This God is a living organism and creature with intelligence and knowledge (including technological knowledge) that is billions of years ahead of were we are.
I began researching this stone immediately. I came across Manly Hall's explanation, along with getting some other evidence, that explains it best. Here I summarize what he says: God is like a phoenix. And occasional it commits suicide! But before it does, it lays some kind of worm, and along with the stone, the whole phoenix is able to grow back to life again! But it is now clean and renewed.
That is what "stage" we are at. All of this death and destruction and sadness is on purpose! On purpose because it is part of a fresh, clean, world that comes very soon.
vajranagini & sammy The stone is full of images! It comes in the next year or so. You will see. Granted some of them are alive, but yet look like images. vajranagini, your statement is especially incorrect. You can see, actually see, the splendor and majesty of the divine in this stone. The divine is more than a state of mind! This stone comes not from this world! Yet it is here.
And I have been reading the bible! And this "slain lamb" surrounded by the 24 "elders" and the 4 living creatures: THAT IS ON THE STONE!
(The 24 "elders" are NOT what you are thinking!)
I have seen the "slain lamb." It is only through him to get to the father! I HAVE made my "robes" clean in the blood of this "slain lamb"
This stone comes to at least some of the general public's knowledge because you will need it to make your "robes" clean.
Because like I said, this "slain lamb" IS ON THE STONE. (It seems to be more of a door or portal that looks like a cute lamb's head that has been split right down the middle. You can see it's brains, even!)
I am guess that the infamous Mayan calender date with all it's 12s is going to mark something after all. 6 months ago I did not believe anything would happen in 2012. Now I do believe, and at least part of it is this stone because it is a healing and cleaning device. So stick around for a year or so and you will see for yourself!
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Post by vajranagini on Jul 1, 2011 1:56:12 GMT
Oh, 2012 "means something' all righty; I've known this for years now, and recent events have only served to confirm that I was not "making any of it up".
I already KNOW about "the stone"; actually, another version of it, and no Christian/Biblical symbolism, either, thank you!
I'd beware of those 'images"; when one 'sees images" no matter how "holy", that is a sign that one is on the astral level, and one can readily be deceived by 'lying spirits' who will dazzle you with fantastical imagery and "lead you around by the nose" with it.. "On the "higher" spiritual levels, all imagery disappears and only the inner voice is heard...
As for God 'letting things happen, maybe you've heard of 'free will"? It is thanks to 'free will' that all this evil exists; people scream "WHY DOES GOD LET BAD THINGs HAPPEN???" but nobody stops to think that if God kept jumping in to "fix things", well, that's NOT 'free will' now, is it?If one wants 'free will" then one must also TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF ONE"S ACTIONS. Such as when people, of their own free will, build nuclear reactors in earthquake zones! Like they say: " 'stupid' SHOULD (and DOES) hurt!"
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Post by vajranagini on Jul 1, 2011 4:21:10 GMT
>enigmatic smile< Well, I guess we will see, won't we? In fact we ARE seeing, aren't we?
Did you know that a school-bus sized asteroid swept past Planet Earth yesterday, and they only knew about it five days in advance of its approach?
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Post by rembrandt on Jul 2, 2011 0:10:07 GMT
I will give you $20 if we are wiped out in 2012.
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Post by dreamsailor75 on Jul 2, 2011 1:38:04 GMT
vajranagini,
You don't understand what I am trying to describe. You can't possibly if you have not seen it. That is OK. I am trying to describe something like: If God could make a super intricate little music box, with the gears made from perfectly cut, paper thin jewel stones and tiny, itty-bitty, cute living creatures, it would be like this stone! Imagine it had a see through lid, too.
The pure, clear, glass that seems to be in front of it but is not, seems to be a type of semi-permeable membrane. I believe it only lets in/out light. I think that includes "spirits" and angles. With probably an actual "hole" to heaven or God, that is inside the portal in the slain lamb head. It looks to be an actual little door thats inside of another little portal. That is what I meant when I said there is no way to the Father but THROUGH Him (the lamb head). Because it is a real DOOR/opening! ;D
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Post by vajranagini on Jul 3, 2011 0:55:56 GMT
Actually, I did the "visions of God/the Universe" thing for several years, not just 6 months, so, I assure you I have a pretty good idea of what you are getting at.
It is rare for two people to have 'exactly' the same vision, because no two people occupy the same space or space-time continuum. but I have certainly had similar visions.
It may help you if you understand that "LAM" is the "seed-syllable" for the body/material existence/the lowest chakra on the spine. the sacrifice of the "LAM" i.e the physical body and its animal appetites, is the key to the "Father" i.e. attaining to the understanding of the Greater Mysteries.
The more subtle your thought processes are the more you will understand.
The fact that you are seeing the colour green is a good sign. It is well to notice as many details about such experiences as you can.
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Post by dreamsailor75 on Jul 4, 2011 2:40:26 GMT
*sigh*
It is not a vision.
It is a real "door"
You can hold it in your hand.
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Post by vajranagini on Jul 4, 2011 3:42:58 GMT
So , you are saying that this thing you are talking about is an actual, concrete object that somebody showed you?
I would be curious about the circumstances under which you achieved this realization; things that revolutionize a person's whole outlook rarely happen 'out of the blue' and for "no reason". Were you involved in any sort of "occult practices' or were any sort of mind-altering substances involved?
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Post by dreamsailor75 on Jul 5, 2011 0:51:18 GMT
Vagranag or what ever your name is, I am wasting my time talking to you. As I said in my introduction in the new members forum, I went to people I thought for sure would believe me or at least have interest in what I am saying and I was treated like I was lying or on drugs.
I am not going to waste my time talking to people who are going to slander and mock me and this item and the creature who, apparently, carved it from stone.
And for anyone who believes in a real, living, magic God:
A copy of this stone exists in plain sight.
But there are a few twists to seeing it.
Consider: You have to be "meek." What are we told Mason's are really looking for? And if something were really smart AND really skinny, where could it hide from you where you would never see it? Answer: Always at a right (90 degree) angle from you.
That is really all I have to say except that it is a masterpiece to look at. Master Masons and Artists will cry at its beauty. Especially when they see the brilliant and clever simpleness with which their fellow Masons hid a replica in plain sight.
Oh and every American will be proud and astonished when they see what the 24 "Elders" really are. Wait till you see their "crowns of gold." I don't exactly know what the 24 elders really are, except it definitely has something to do with the USA, music, and mathematics. I don't know enough of math and music to say what it means though. The 4 living creatures are like flying candle-sticks with large Pokemon eyes and something like hummingbirds wings. Where these living creatures are, the stone itself is carved with hair-thin "veins" that form a sponge-like skeleton upon which living "plasma" or living "water" attaches itself. They look like very thick, totally clear hair gel. But they are little lamps and also shaped a bit like eagles. The bird theme is found consistently throughout it.
It is also very "serpentine" in some places. From looking at it nearly daily for months now, my eyes are starting to look a little serpentine or snake-like. I suspect it is a part of this item cleaning my "robes." This stone is a door but it also seems to be a little, stone fountain that fills with a magic water that is not wet. So the whole stone is also like a little, magic, cup. Not to mention the "Cup fit for a Living God" that is already on the stone.
This stone and especially the replica are the "hidden mana" mentioned in Revelations of the Bible. I had never even heard of this stuff and it is only mentioned one time in Revelation. You eat it with your eyes and mind. You know, you can "devour" something with your eyes? But at first it will make you feel sea-sick. Like being on a roller-coaster.
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Post by vajranagini on Jul 5, 2011 2:10:52 GMT
Belive it or not, I am not "mocking" you. I would like to know more about your experience, actually. But one moment you are saying "this object actually exists [in consensus reality] and the next minute you are off, raving like someone who has just taken their first LSD trip.
One moment you are saying "every American will be proud to know what the 24 elders are" and the next moment: "I don't know what the 24 elders really are". So, WHICH IS IT?
This is the danger when people who have never experienced any visions suddenly do so; it is easy to lose track and be 'dazzled' by them; you do not know how to evaluate them for authenticity or to determine if you are merely being led astray by "lying spirits"... "Biblical" imagery is no guarantee that the energies behind the vision are benign!
You are seeing something, no question, but is it something that "everybody' can see... or it is something that exists in your own imagination? Is there 'someone' showing you this or did it all just "appear"? Sorry if this sounds like 'raining on your parade' , but it is never well to set aside one's capacity for good judgement and caution , especially when confronted with a situation like yours...no matter how 'dazzled' you are with 'your new 'toy"!
I will also remark that you seem to have a rather broad grasp of Biblical lore for someone who supposedly "didn't believe in God" only SIX MONTHS AGO.
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Post by nventr on Jul 7, 2011 5:23:28 GMT
Sounds like Ezekiel to me and a true kundalini upsurge.
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Post by cwhite on Aug 9, 2011 14:44:01 GMT
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Post by cwhite on Aug 17, 2011 17:14:44 GMT
Lapis Exilis??
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Post by fractal3rd on Sept 29, 2011 14:29:15 GMT
So exciting to learn new things especially when it alters ones life - so Dreamsailor75, lemme know where the stone is I will make a pilgramage to see it. If it is literal like you say then I wanna see it for myself. If its literal then I don't need reach any higher planes or dimesions to see it. 90 degrees for me as a mathematician means the addiotn of another plane/dimension - hence a whole new world to analyse... What does the stone mean tho, are you leaning towards a christian belief system? ? Does the stone have a name other than green stone - is it ever mentioned in any ancient texts? very strange my Mulsim friend was telling me the other day about the black stone he would get to kiss on Mecca pilgramage - he said its in you bible too and I said Nope its not! At least not in a literall sense... maybe I was wrong...
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Post by vajranagini on Oct 31, 2011 3:21:33 GMT
Stones are commonly used as sacred icons of God and have been probably ever since "worship" was established among humanity. In fact the very word "stone' comes from the Sanskrit word "sthanu" meaning "established" or "fixed in place" i.e. God as the Fixed Point or "centre".I am sure i don't need to expound on the significance of 'the center" in a Freemasonic forum.!
I can also tell you that unusual stones (like meteorites, stones with holes, stones that move, stones that 'sing", or the "banalinga" of the Hindus) are considered especially sacred just about everywhere in the world.. The "banalinga" are perfectly symmetrical grey/grey-black/beige egg-shaped rocks of varying size , ranging in size from a few feet long down to pebbles of less than an inch in length, and splotched with red and yellow. They are found only in one place: a bend in the sacred Narmada river in India.
These stones are shaped by no human hand; they are merely polished to smoothness and are revered as the most perfect representation of the most primordial form of God, the Shiva Lingam. The banalinga must be splotched with red, symbolizing the sacred Feminine Power or Shakti, else they are considered "incomplete". I can personally attest to the power of these stones; I have a collection of them, but the most prized is my original banalinga, which has a red splotch shaped like a RED DRAGON on it.
This mark was NOT on the stone when I first got it, it formed LATER. I know this because I looked at it often enough while performing "Shiva puja (worship); it was not until I met Lama Yeshe, a Red Dragon tulku lama of the Kula tradition (and a grandson of Aleister Crowley) and received an initiation from him that the splotch changed its shape and became 'dragon-shaped". I could tell you a few MORE weird stories about this remarkable stone, but it would take too long!
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Post by derekmiller on Nov 2, 2011 10:16:48 GMT
I guess god can be found in any way. And I am very interested to know how you came to this conclusion. I guess there is a mystery behind the number 2012 but i have no idea what will happen. All i know is something big is going to take place. Although i hope nobody dies! And i completely agree that you don't need a church for this.
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