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Post by tyler on Feb 12, 2015 17:50:50 GMT
In the 1st Degree Tracing Board lecture, the 3rd, last or grand reason is not given, being too long, I have a shortened version of it, but know that in the Emulation Lodge of Instruction little Green Book there is the full version. I cannot find it copied online....does anyone have that section/book and could be copied and emailed to me please. s&f Tyler
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Post by billmcelligott on Feb 13, 2015 17:58:28 GMT
I wonder what the admin at the freemason would do if I went there and left links to Masonic Light forum.
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Post by ionic on Feb 14, 2015 0:21:25 GMT
The assumption might have been made that tyler is the same tyler who is a member at TFM so he probably wouldn't have thought it would cause any harm but it's fixed now.
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Post by billmcelligott on Feb 14, 2015 4:11:50 GMT
With respect I did not change alter or delete anything, I just wondered what would have been said ? do you think I am being unreasonable ?
You can see what happens to a forum when discussions are directed away from it. It will die.
You will see me here every day, I do not own the forum, I do not control it. I am just a moderator.
But if the post count goes down any more we might as well close it.
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Post by ionic on Feb 14, 2015 10:47:44 GMT
No you're defo not being unreasonable, it was a slip for which I am sorry. I removed the post because what you said made me realise that and that my assumption was unfounded as he could be almost anybody really.
Below is the answer:
First Degree Tracing Board:
"Our Lodge is situated due East and West, because all places of Divine worship, as well as Masons' regular, wellformed, constituted Lodges, are, or ought to be, so situated; for which we assign three Masonic reasons: First, the Sun, the Glory of the Lord, rises in the East and sets in the West.; Second, learning originated in the East, and thence spread its benign influence to the West; the third, last, and grand reason, which is too long to be entered upon now, is explained in the course of our Lectures, which I hope you will have many opportunities of hearing. "
Fourth Section of the Entered Apprentice Lecture:
Q - How are our Lodges situated? A - Due East and West
Q - Why? A - Because all places of Divine worship as well as Masons' regular, well-formed, constituted Lodges, are or ought to be so situated
Q - For which we assign three Masonic reasons; I will thank you for the first. A - The Sun, the Glory of the Lord, rises, in the East and sets in the West.
Q - The second? A - Learning originated in the East, an thence spread its benign influence to the West
Q - The third, last, and grand reason? A - Whenever we contemplate on the works of the creation, how ready and cheerful ought we to be to adore the Almighty Creator, who has never left Himself without a living witness among men. From the earliest period of time, we have been taught to believe in the existence of a Deity. We read of Abel bringing a more acceptable offering to the Lord than his brother Cain; of Enoch walking with God; of Noah. being a just and upright man in his day and generation , and a teacher of righteousness; of Jacob wrestling with an angel, prevailing, and thereby obtaining a blessing for himself and posterity. But we never hear or read of any place being set apart for the public solemnisation of Divine worship, until after the happy deliverance of the children of Israel from their Egyptian bondage, which it pleased the Almighty to effect with a high hand and an outstretched arm, under the conduct of His faithful servant Moses, according to a promise made their forefather, Abraham, that He would make of his seed a great and mighty people, even as the stars in Heaven for number, and the sand of the sea for multitude. And as they were about to possess the gate of their enemies, and inherit the promised land, the Almighty thought proper to reveal to them those three most excellent institutions-viz., the Moral, Ceremonial, and judicial Laws. And for the better solemnisation of Divine worship, as well as a receptacle for the Books and Tables of the Law, Moses caused a Tent or Tabernacle to be erected in the wilderness, which by God's especial command was situated due East and West, for Moses did everything according to a pattern shown him by the Lord on Mount Sinai. This Tent or Tabernacle proved afterwards to be the ground-plan, in respect to situation, of that most magnificent Temple built at Jerusalem by that wise and mighty Prince, King Solomon, whose regal splendour and unparalleled lustre far transcend our ideas. This is the third, last, and grand reason. I as a Freemason give, why all. places of Divine worship, as well as Masons' regular, well-formed, constituted Lodges are or ought to be so situated.
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Post by tyler on Feb 14, 2015 14:53:55 GMT
Thank you Ionic for posting this - although I did say brethren could email me this instead of posting it on here. I am unable to obtain the booklet, as I am currently in Rio for a while, and the Grand Lodge here in Rio does not have it,at least in english, and also as I now live in France, its difficult to get back to GtQSt to get a copy anyway, but even though i am currently on the other half the world, I still keep the brethren of my Lodge in Sutton upto date with ....advancement of masonic knowledge.... again thank you for your help.... if you or anyone wants the non lecture version and/or an explanation of the history of the tracing board, i am happy to post it on here, if allowed, or emailed.
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