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Post by judith on May 26, 2015 14:13:35 GMT
I came across a mention that a bat is a masonic symbol and I was left unsure if its true or not.
Does the bat hold any symbolic significance that you know of in freemasonary? If yes, what is it?
Thank you!
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Post by peter2 on May 26, 2015 23:23:14 GMT
If a bat is an animal with wings - the answer is that it does not appear in any Masonic context that I recall.
If a bat is a wooden article used for hitting things, then probably not, although wooden mauls (mallets) do.
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Post by tyler on May 27, 2015 18:22:30 GMT
in short NO
and no goat either
and no animal or mamal or fish etc etc
however there are plenty of batty freemasons around....include myself amongst them
but do not hang upside down when i get home from a lodge meeting
tyler
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Post by judith on May 27, 2015 19:19:20 GMT
Thank you for you answers! Baty freemasons or not. The mention is from the 17th century I was told. Guess its a just an old myth. But sadly, I still need some information on the bat (the animal not the baseball "wooden artical "). The bat as an occult symbol or its relation to astrology. If you have any information I would be most thankful! Judith
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Post by tyler on May 27, 2015 19:35:56 GMT
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Post by peter2 on May 28, 2015 4:00:20 GMT
Thank you for you answers! .. The mention is from the 17th century I was told... It would help if you had the reference
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Post by billmcelligott on May 28, 2015 7:44:16 GMT
The closest you can get is BATMAN Here is some comment from BC & Yukon GL freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/comics.htmlBatman According to Eclipse Path. Bible Prophecy Research, August 11, 1999 <philologos.org/bpr/files/Sky_Signs/ss013.htm>. the first Shriner temple in New York was named Gotham Temple and "it is alleged that the stories of Batman and Robin from Gotham City are based upon the Gotham Shrine Temple’s alleged war against evil-doers." In fact, Mecca Temple—founded on 26 September 1872— was originally called New York Temple. Reference is made to the Hiram Abiff legend, with an oblique intimation that Batman is a freemason, in Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight, "Conspiracy". written by Doug Moench, drawn by J. H. Williams III. DC, 3 issues (Nos.86-88), cover dated September - November 1996. Part 1, p. 23. In Batman: Operation Scotland, Bruce Wayne visits Rosslyn Chapel and the legends of the Apprentice's Pillar and Hiram Abiff are told. Written by Alan Grant, drawn by Frank Quitely. DC/BTMSC 01: 1998. p. 27.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 12:47:14 GMT
in short NO and no goat either and no animal or mamal or fish etc etc tyler What about the Pascal Lamb? I know several birds are symbols....cockeral, dove etc.
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Post by peter2 on Jun 4, 2015 9:28:19 GMT
What about the Pascal Lamb? I know several birds are symbols....cockeral, dove etc. The Pascal Lamb is a symbol in the Judaic forms of Christianity The cockerel is a symbol (emblem?) of France The dove is used in Christian contexts and some lodges use a dove on the wands of the Deacons instead of Mercury the messenger of the gods, but the dove has little if any reference in the rituals.
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Post by billmcelligott on Jun 4, 2015 12:50:23 GMT
The dove an emblem of peace, however in Masonic Lodges [deacon] it is a dove with an olive branch / twig which derives from Noah - the message that land is near. In the Chamber of Reflection [Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the French Rite] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doves_as_symbolsThere is no specific list of contents, but it may contain either literally or in representation, such objects or images as a skull, a sickle or scythe, an hourglass, bread and water, sulphur, salt and a cockerel (symbolising mercury), en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamber_of_ReflectionThis paschal lamb, or Lamb of God, has been adopted as a symbol by the Knights Templar, being borne in one of the banners of the Order, and constituting, with the square which it surmounts, the jewel of the Generalissimo of a Commandery. The lamb is a symbol of Christ; the cross, of His passion; and the banner, of His victory over death and hell. masonic.wikidot.com/paschal-lambThe Masonic Lamb: Masonic Lamb: From Albert Mackey's Revised Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, Vol. 1, page 558 and 559, 1929 First Degree: In Ancient Craft Masonry, the Lamb is the symbol of innocence; thus in the instructions of the First Degree: "In all ages the Lamb has been deemed an emblem of innocence." Hence it is required that a Freemason's Apron should be made of lambskin. In the advanced Degrees, and in the Degrees of chivalry, as in Christian iconography, or illustration, the lamb is a symbol of Jesus Christ. www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/masonic-lamb.htmlSo there are references but not specific to Craft Freemasonry.
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Post by peter2 on Jun 5, 2015 7:53:30 GMT
I seem to recall the dove appears in Royal Ark Mariners
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Post by crossbow on Jun 5, 2015 12:12:40 GMT
"... but the dove has little if any reference in the rituals."
That's revealing.
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Post by billmcelligott on Jun 5, 2015 16:45:31 GMT
Unless you recall the installation ritual.
UGLE will mention the Deacons wands which is topped by a dove. [messemger]
yes Royal Ark Marina has mention of Noah and Doves.
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Post by crossbow on Jun 6, 2015 2:55:55 GMT
The dove is as significant as every other jewel of office.
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Post by Warrior1256 on Apr 30, 2016 19:42:39 GMT
I've been a Master Mason for less than two years and, in that time, I have run into no symbolism concerning bats.
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