|
Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on Jul 23, 2017 1:48:25 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_ban_of_FreemasonryThe Catholic Pope and many others during this time period in Europe had opposed Freemasonry which dawned on me a couple of months ago which is a advancement in the Fascists and Communists executing Freemasons thread. Catholicism under Pope Leo XII was strongly opposed to the Lodge and it is clear why Mussolini kicked out Crowley and disbanded it including Adolf Hitler. The movement (I personally think) of anti-Masonry originated and flourished under Humanum genus which was issued by the Pope to get rid of Masonry in Rome. As the Pope states: "HG 31: "As Our predecessors have many times repeated, let no man think that he may for any reason whatsoever join the Masonic sect, if he values his Catholic name and his eternal salvation as he ought to value them."
The Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) originated in Rome and is still extremely influential to this day, as the image of Jesus Christ (Cesare Borgia) is the primary exhibition of the King of the Jews. However those same Jesuits were not under the Pope it seems, which might explain the Pope's 'sudden' disdain for Freemasonry. However once Italy during the unification period had annexed what was left of the Vatican State and Papal States, this ban and its legacy had ended shortly. Catholics are not allowed to join Freemasonry and many Satanists oppose Catholicism and Baptists which had put a major bulwark in the plans of the Lodge.
|
|
|
Post by peter2 on Jul 23, 2017 21:40:20 GMT
Religions and churches are notorious for wars, inquisitions and crimes. Perhaps such organizations dislike people having choice.
Greek hairesis: choice, opinion - thus heresy
|
|
|
Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on Jul 23, 2017 22:33:01 GMT
With neoliberalism dominating American society, perhaps this aspect has died down significantly.
|
|
|
Post by offramp on Feb 2, 2019 13:00:43 GMT
I was thinking today about Roman Catholicism, Protestantism and Freemasonry.
Before Luther, the Church in Rome was a Flat-Earth society, Ptolemians, Biblical literalists and Creationists.
Luther came along and changed almost everything. His Protestant Revolution led to an éboulement in popular thought and The Enlightenment. That age also led to the worldwide explosion of Freemasonry.
Nowadays, what is happening?
Catholicism has accepted Evolution, dinosaurs, the Copernican universe with a globe earth, a symbolic view of the Bible, and Freemasonry is doing best in Catholic areas such as Italy and South and Central America.
The Protestants however, have regressed totally - especially the Baptists. For Baptists the Bible MUST be taken literally; the Earth is flat; evolution is "only a theory"; dinosaurs may have existed but only up to 6000 years ago; 144,000 people will go to Heaven at The Rapture, which is imminent. None of those 144,000 will be Catholics or Freemasons, or, in fact, non-Baptists/Presbyterians.
Where did the Protestant Church, specifically the Baptist Church, go so badly wrong?
And why do Baptists fear Freemasons so much nowadays?
|
|
|
Post by peter2 on Feb 3, 2019 3:49:31 GMT
>His Protestant Revolution led to an éboulement in popular thought and The Enlightenment.
That might be somewhat of an overstatement. For example, the counter-reformation religious art is based on genuine mystical experiences.
>best in Catholic areas such as Italy and South and Central America.
It is debatable how Roman is Catholicism in South America. It might be more accurate to say that the traditional religions have concealed themselves within Catholicism. A similar observation might be made about Irish Catholicism.
>have regressed totally - especially the Baptists
It is a curious matter how central is baptism to Christianity when Jesus baptised no one.
>144,000 people will go to Heaven at The Rapture
The Jehovah's Witnesses tell us they have first claim on the 144 000 but since that number was filled up by 1935, there has been some unquantified extension available to later JWs - apparently a paradise without God.
>Where did the Protestant Church, specifically the Baptist Church, go so badly wrong
I suspect that the Protestant Church is a bit broader than your proposition, but generally the process may be as follows:
It is to do with greyness. When all issues are grey it is easy for a group to slide past many aspects of belief. As the spiritual light flows into the planet the grey starts to polarize into blacker and whiter. At this stage many of the group affected by the light see the difficulties in some of the core beliefs and leave the group. The remaining members may resist the new beliefs of those those that are losing the faith, and harden up their beliefs, usually becoming more literal in their interpretation of their scriptures.
>why do Baptists fear Freemasons
Many years ago I toured much of Europe and the UK visiting many churches. The churches varied widely in spiritual quality. Some were Christian only in name. I recall visiting a Scottish church in Edinburgh and I was quite aware of the mind control energies present. It was not permitted to believe other than what was taught from the pulpit.
And I had the opposite experience in some Anglican churches. There was freedom of thought. Eventually I discovered, that at that time, about half of the Anglican clergy were Freemasons. Accordingly in their churches it was equally acceptable to believe in a personal savior (Jesus) or an impersonal Creator (the GAOTU).
Freemason's freedom of belief is a real challenge to those defending the ramparts of Biblical literalism.
|
|
|
Post by offramp on Feb 3, 2019 16:53:13 GMT
Peter2, thank you for that thought-provoking response. Your thoughts about the energies of churches is excellent.
I also visit many churches and had not thought to tune in and try to tune in to the fabric's personality. I certainly will in future.
|
|