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Post by peter2 on Feb 26, 2018 23:12:29 GMT
> I have a problem with referring to people as food
The Old Testament is full of references to the gods eating the physical bodies of humans. Why should you believe that the non-physical parts contain no nourishment?
I recall when my elder son was very young, he slept for perhaps an hour on my chest. When I took him off I was aware that he had absorbed a large amount of etheric energy - leaving a gap in my chest.
My wife said that often happened with her.
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Post by luciicul on Feb 28, 2018 21:00:29 GMT
So do spirits which possess others, spiritual imposters claiming to be someone they are not, and spirits who think people are sacrifices.
I have on many occasions experienced the opposite in which the energy increases. I had a friend, Clay, who would tell me my rainbow is too dark and he would run his fingers over my eye brows to make it brighter. It was to correct a loss of self because of spirits which were consuming. Some people are completely unaware they do that to others.
Manna is the self of an individual, the restorative self. No one has a right to anothers' self. It's a huge hazard for people who are mediums that others think they are food.
The King of Lycaeon was the monster. His son resurrected despite his act to feed his son to Zeus. Suffer not the little children. I would argue against that, and I do not care who they are. Black poplar is spiritually consuming. Not even a Promethic act. Prometheus stole fire from the Gods and gave it to man ..... to create woman from manna not sacrifice, the symbology of his liver. That does not mean eat Prometheus.
The three parallel universes are being used to create a portal for consuming black poplar. The three names that are being used are Jesus, Lucifer and Eileithea, all different people but they are all also 444. Jesus is not 888 in the current moment of now. The King of Lycaeon is a part of the consuming universe. I know why "Lucy" is the sacrifice in the garden. It is being derived from the name Lycaeon. Something about an old man who tried to feed me a walnut. The inspector, aka, the cowboy, between Dracula and Frankenstein is the champion of the white poplar. In the universe of the world presented that everyone sees the inspector would be Aaron, the rod of justice. Eileithena is relative to Lucina, not Lycaeon.
Yes, I have a problem with referring to people as food. My "mother" would try to drown me, a dream I had about this conversation yesterday. Manna is not a part of parallel universes. It's perpetually eternal.
You had concerns about targeted individuals, a vague reference. Practically speaking there are numerous articles about masons targeting people. You cannot be vague and get the hearing you want from people. That's what I have learned from it all. That's not a targeting on my part, although I can see why it would be taken that way.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Feb 28, 2018 21:31:17 GMT
>targeted individuals, a vague reference. .... You cannot be vague and get the hearing you want from people.
It is generally necessary for targeted individuals to work it out for themselves. This is because their thought processes are programmed to reject such statements.
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Post by luciicul on Mar 2, 2018 4:21:20 GMT
I had a posted response that just disappeared, just now. What does that say in response to your statement ?
Luci
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Post by luciicul on Mar 2, 2018 18:43:11 GMT
I thought about rewriting my statement. I decided oh why bother. It wasn't addressing the root of the problem.
Yareh does not mean dry land. I have the dry land. Yareh also means a raven and a dove. I can not for the life of me understand why they gave it to me but it is what it is. It's certainly not because I have a stunning uplifting personality. That's what makes me a target if I'm getting your point. If you think it's a myth..... if only.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Mar 2, 2018 20:19:42 GMT
>That's what makes me a target
Which entities are targeting you?
How do you know they are what they say they are?
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Post by luciicul on Mar 3, 2018 3:27:39 GMT
We could start with Nov 27, 2003. Have no idea, but there's a code for it in the ELS.
Reads: Luci and XXXX two hours wed day cannot say what where they went.
That's true. It was the first truly obvious freaky thing that happened. On that day I was getting married to Harold. Between doing everything except putting on my dress and driving to old city park in Dallas the two of us, the maid of honor, from cedar springs road to the bridge overpass to the park right in front of it we just disappeared. There was an ice storm, the car wouldn't start and the groom and the best man almost had a fist fight, nature called early, we disappeared, the guys forgot the rings, they couldn't find the buttons on my dress to put it on, the photographer said we had to provide the camera and left, Harold was throwing up behind the church, it was supposed to be in the gazebo, the limo to Turtle Creek Mansion kept our champagne and cake, I had a reaction to the hotel champagne, Harold's personality changed to a completely different person, and I was told I wasn't worth spending time with it was getting his money's worth, and I found out I was pregnant at Disney World in the Beauty and the Beast suite. At least the tree frogs were friendly. To this day neither of us can figure out where we went for two hours. Harold's personality changed back to the person I knew after we got divorced 10 years later. Then I got for the lack of a better word "stigmata" which is it's own discussion. You ever meet anyone who can cry milk ? Me neither.
Had a lot of things happen that would make student of anomalies giddy on the amount of things to keep up with. I quit trying to figure out who the "birds in black" were a long time ago. Really tall men, all dressed in black on a different plane. They used to hang out at my grandmother's house, but they wouldn't show up at our home. Then they started showing up again after I got married.
I've had everything from lightning strike the same tree twice immediately when I said I've never seen lightning hit a tree to almost being hit in the head by a meteorite and maybe 20 ft. in the Furrs Cafeteria parking lot by Richardson square mall.
There was a really awful period that started when I was about 3 1/2 to 6. A man tried to break into my bedroom and my brother tried to tell my mother, I got a nail in the middle of my head at church to which you can still feel the hole with your finger from something that pushed me and then they kept me in the closet until my mother would pick me up, my brother turned into another person and some really awful things happened, my voice change from literally sounding like Mickey Mouse to someone really deep voiced, my father tried to rewrite the universe so that I didn't exist whom unbeknownst to my entire family was the one of the cofounders of the North Texas paranormal society, and I asked Santa Clause for a donkey......then things got better for a while but Andrew got worse. Then the car got hit by lighting with my mother and my brothers also in the car and Michael got worse again. Fortunately, a Volkswagon rabbit made for a good faraday cage. For the most part things were quiet from kindergarten to 13, then it went into the toilet again.
About 14 years ago I got pushed in my apartment by an angry spirit and cracked a rib. There's an ELS code on that one along with several of the above stated issues, most all of them. That ELS reads: Luci died from broken rib Lord heal keep Luci alive. Here's the kicker with that one. I do not remember dying but I do remember a man standing over me healing me and I woke up and felt better than I had ever felt in my life.
Which thing that happened ? I'm not so sure finding out how a meteorite almost hit me in the head would be productive. I don't bother with names for the most part it just adds to the problem. My inner Ripley knows how to use a mental flame thrower and tell them they can bill me because they are going to do so anyways, without hesitation. I learned a long time ago be honest and trust no one, except maybe Santa Clause and don't laugh because it means justice and mercy but when you are a little kid..... it still translates the same.
If I said I am tired of the snakes on this plane would it make sense ? I have the documentation on the dry land. It's not literal. It is literally a part of the Word architecture. I can name quite a few things but not all of it for good reason. Like the three ladies when you go through the gates are Moiria, or Mary. And it was between 3 and 4 pm, closer to 3:30. Some things you don't need to name to know that's got to go.
You really think I should name them ? I know my maid of honor has been convinced by someone she is a targeted individual in the more military sense which is like watching the movie Bug because she explodes in his defense and hers and thinks people have put chips in her head and how dare I suggest she should learn some more about it. But when you tell her to read a reference that might help her the response is did you call me ignorant and completely offended by the idea of actually reading a KJB because it takes work. I think she more has the problem you are thinking of. She's in the text quite a bit too. I had to walk away from her. She needs help from someone who hasn't been involved.
You want to name it, have at it. Most of the time it's just people who have died who want/need to talk to someone. Those are easier to name. Or I can name the problem Darryl Anka has, a whole room of people being made into golems. I saw it, the room it was in, the house it's in, the layout of the house, the large number of people in the room. They see aliens. I saw people abusing other people and got enough information to leave while they were still stuck. I can draw a picture of it, the whole house including the front lawn with the tree layout. Most of them were children with a few exceptions. What is referred to by many as "grey" aliens. They can't see they are people. I can name that.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Mar 3, 2018 6:14:56 GMT
> Really tall men, all dressed in black on a different plane.
These are not very profound beings but quite nasty.
> my brother turned into another person and some really awful things happened, my voice change from literally sounding like Mickey Mouse to someone really deep voiced
So lots of physical and astral events.
The next question is: by what right do they access you?
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Post by luciicul on Mar 4, 2018 22:49:55 GMT
By what right....... that's usually my response.
I have an interactive personality.? I know there are ELS codes that suggest I'm supposed to do something profound. If I talk about it I think it gives the wrong impression. I'm just as puzzled by it as anyone else who might read them, even with everything I know which is quite a bit. Possibly because I can recreate the origin of Adam? Anyone here have envisionments of a light coiling around the earth and making it bright ? I see it in first person.
You know, when you walk through those gates with the Moiria standing outside he's "a tall man in black". They do not appear as what most people might think. I saw three women who were playing a game with each other dressed like light but I could see under their clothes they were dark. I know when he got out of the metaphorical car which he gave to me he went through a second set of gates into a very dark house and I did not want him to go there. I think not all "tall men in black" are necessarily a negative. They are distinctly different from a tall dark spirit that has no actual form. I know that when we went through the gates I was horrified because when we went around the city 3 times all I could relate it to was by who's right is Hector being dragged and treated in this way. I figured out real quick that if you add the missing letter to "eleh" it says Helen.
It's not all a negative. I like floating around in people's houses with tall ceilings, and I'm not a ghost. That might have unintentionally invited a few challenges. I think those challenges are people summoning light to get rid of someone or something else and a part of whatever the deal was follows me home. For instance if you see lights going on or off, or moving and you can feel a spirit move through the fixture don't assume it's a ghost. I can do that. I caught my grandmother's neighbor's breaking into her house that way. The Parthenon is alot of fun. Just have to remember to go through the pillars before reaching the ceiling. Like going 0-200mph and hitting a speed bump. I don't recommend that. There's an episode of a paranormal program using frank's pink box in a mental health facility and they think they were talking to a former patient and it was me. That was several weeks of mediumship hell. Those poor people.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Mar 5, 2018 6:07:18 GMT
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Post by luciicul on Mar 6, 2018 18:50:51 GMT
It says Luci and Adam mannam, Acts 7:53, and yes that is spelled correctly. True. You know how to know it's the correct spelling ? Because if you take away the last letter it comes up 10 times and not 1 time. The more accurate the ELS the less it's listed it becomes a single solid statement. After seeing this woman try to open the plane door in flight "because God has the data" tells me I need to do so. It's not right she should feel that way and not know where it comes from. Redeemer is a variation of the structure of the word mannam. It's the not knowing where it comes from that makes people confused.
You'll just have to take my word for it I know what to do. When I get done and my presentation is up you can decide if you think I have Stockholm syndrome, or something else. I do have PTSD, but so do millions of other people.
Luci
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Post by luciicul on Mar 6, 2018 19:59:22 GMT
Anyone want to volunteer to proof read lots of letters and numbers ? It's not hard to do. Just makes your eyeballs a little buggy like doing lots of data entry and knowing when it's time for a coffee break. Someone well grounded since Psalms has a high empathy requirement, and has access to a copy of Thomas-Nelson KJV red letter Open Bible 1975 preferably or as close to it as possible. I do not know anyone with the patience for it.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Mar 6, 2018 20:06:19 GMT
>I do have PTSD
Would you like to recount the events?
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Post by luciicul on Mar 7, 2018 19:09:29 GMT
Which one ? The realities of two brothers,, one named for "like man" and one named "like god" and my mother named for "bethel". Do you really need the gritty details of how it smells when your brother named for "like god" decides you are the center of their obsession of the thing to have at 4 years old and you can not decide which is worse, the paint thinner or sulfur while you get to be his new sex toy. You really need that detail for you to feel better about it ? I don't. Or my mother whom I care for now that insisted I need to be more caring of his feelings because we are going to see him in the hospital because he hung him self because I'm a real person and not a literal tree with a turtle and a unicorn because neither one of them knew What the Tortoise said to Achilles was, or about Michael Taylor who murdered his family and a botched exorcism by people who hadn't the slightest idea what they were doing, another person with the same name ? Or how in the middle of all that I got TB because another girl named Anneliese Michele, also subject to a botched exorcism, which by name is Michael and Luci Anne in variation, our names. Did you want to know why she said the water stinks ? Maybe Abraham Van Helsing could explain to everyone in his grand non-expertise why Lucy should be the sacrifice in the middle of the garden, or we could just put my eyes on a plate in the middle of the Last Supper painting to go with the dagger and a sack of cash and hope someone will figure it out ....... but I do not exist because it's not mathematically convenient. No, I think I'll pass on that. I have my own way of dealing with it. Luci
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Post by peter2 on Mar 7, 2018 23:56:57 GMT
So was your birth situation random or planned?
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Post by luciicul on Mar 8, 2018 4:13:19 GMT
OK, I'll nibble on that question. Depends on how you look at it. Biologically, random and we're all roughly 5-6 years apart. Biblically, they knew I was coming. There are far too many details for it to be even remotely coincidental. Personally, I'd like to think of it as I was the champion swimmer of my father that decided this is going to happen. I remember before I was born being sent. Then I remember after I was born thinking what is wrong with everyone's hair because it didn't move. I know at some point I was wanted to be here at this time. There's an ELS that reads Luci cannot (be) allowed (to) die, but if you read it wrong it says Luci cannot die, Epistle of Paul to Corinthians 15:48-15:54. I know that all the people in the text have a reason for being there, even the ones I disagree with. The challenge to getting people to take it seriously is not everyone is in there, despite what some people have been told. Probably in some respects caused some of the problems but doesn't change what to do about it.
Ever hear of the Watseka Wonder ? I don't think it's any one thing but the cumulative effect of many factors very similar to the Watseka Wonder only that's a smaller scale in many respects. I think there are many accounts that have a similar connection where one group of events transfers to another group of people and events. I just think I'm the one that's aware of it. That brings me back to the intent of the Hindu peoples and the Nadi texts. I think they knew and it happens and their intent is truly benevolent, something the cultural response to the KJV lacks.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Mar 8, 2018 7:29:54 GMT
It is useful to separate what happened to you from your interpretation of the events. What happened is real but the interpretation may be misleading.
Thus the question is: were those adverse events the result of intelligent intervention in your family?
If so, what was the objective of the intervention?
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Post by luciicul on Mar 9, 2018 7:44:00 GMT
Define intelligent intervention. Intelligence is a subjective concept. My father was extremely intelligent. He used the basic structure of the Word architecture to try to write me out of the universe. It made him ill. I took one look at it and knew immediately what he did wrong that made him ill.
Like did you know how a body gets a soul is rather akin to the Poincare Conjecture ? The problem is there's a flaw in the Poincare Conjecture. If you lasso a donut with enough force to throw the lasso through the hole it draws to a single point and goes through the donut. Your soul is in your name. Every letter in your name is a part of your bethel. It's why when you die your name doesn't change, just the fact that your spirit has a corporeal container. It's why the new theory the moon was created in a donut, not really a new concept. It's just being repackaged. Continuously repackage things and people have a hard time keeping up if they don't know the origin.
You can use the same Word architecture to make the "cube" move. I did. Probably wasn't my best decision in some respects but whoever said uncharted territories are without it's hesitancies. That's more recent though and my intelligent choice. Got a stellar headache though....but it went away. Had that same feeling watching y'alls film.
I think it's a combination of events and not just one or the other. Wisdom is the result of experience. I know that was some of the intent not that I appreciate every moment of it. Not every intent of other intelligences are well meaning. For instance there's a particular person who's spirit I don't get along with at all in the text.
I know I was very wanted by my family until later. Andrew, or Andy, is actually the one who wanted me to be named Lucy. I haven't checked in with him recently because I'm trying to stay neutral for my mother, but last I checked he thinks I'm the big evil. He's like the opposite of Michael. My mother decided it was not the right spelling. She just knew. None of them are or were aware of the biblical structure. My father knew the basics of the structure but he did not know about the structure of mannam in the text. Otherwise he would have noticed that my baptism on the 21st of December was possibly not the best decision which begs questions about the lives of the other kids who were baptized at the same moment. None of them are evil per say, but I saw real evil. I experienced real evil. Observation about it was things got quiet when I was around Louise and Art, which was the people who made it possible to leave the place where I was pushed onto a nail. If you've ever been physically pushed by a spirit whether disembodied or never had a body you'll never forget it. They're in the ELS too. I don't think they were anything more than just good people who had no idea of what ELS codes were.
I think people's choices enable some intelligences to do horrible things until they learn how to best defend themselves and it's different for each person. Daniel Tammet for instance counts Pi to the point it's rather futile, but is it ? As long as he's counting Pi outside intelligences are somewhat unavailable to him. It's an incredible defense mechanism. A lady named Mary I met drew pictures of a boat on the water with clouds and a sun. They never had any color. I asked her if what they needed was color. She lit up like a Christmas tree and started pulling them out of her purse. So these other people's lives also had an impact made on them by the Word structure. It reflects in people's lives. My mother is legally blind but she can see some. She can only copy art to paint. She is very Themis inclined. Problem is she wants to take large details and make them very small and bases everything on what she can see and nature. If you asked her to paint something that is not literal she cannot do it. I on the other hand like to paint small things very big and I have a low tolerance to blindness to details in things that are not visible with the literal eyes. People are who they are and it is just a map of the world upon the earth in the simplest terms. One could present it in perspective that the world of the dead was built upon the earth, but I wouldn't call it the heavens per say. Do I think there's intervention ? Absolutely. More than one and that makes it more of a challenge to answer your question. I can say that the day I was paired with another person in the text who is in the ELS as saying a prayer for someone just like her, that's not the exact quote, I for the most part checked out the minute I sat down next to her. Which begs the question did she ask because she wanted to, or because it was written for her to ask. This is the same lady that was my maid of honor. Either way I have no appreciation for it. I think the answer to your question is between the two of us. She doesn't have a tree symbol. She's more "menthe". She can't look at my paintings at all. She said it makes her head hurt. "It's too bright." It's just psalms for the most part.
I can say that in recent events when the dog bit my face at the Presbyterian church down the street the ELS code says the dog was a demon. I didn't include that but maybe for this conversation it's necessary. I do have three scars on my face that look like what thousands of other people have reported, scratches in threes. It's not too bad though. Puppies have razor sharp teeth. It could have been worse and at least it wasn't a kid showing up for the free lunch program.
I'll think about your question some more. Pretty sure the answer is yes, but whom in relation to what. I understand how I was named "in the garden", but there's a huge difference between that and what people manifest in what they think it means. Some of it is the result of "splitting the baby in half", or split cows according to pharaoh's dream....
Can you sense that it's real spiritually kind of quiet on my end ? Tell me if you sense it change. I'll be back. I have to work on paperwork before someone else does something like open a plane door.
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Post by peter2 on Mar 9, 2018 9:25:34 GMT
>Define intelligent intervention.
I seem to have upset you. I leave definitions to lawyers. I find it better to stick to experiential matters. Thus: when did you ask yourself: "why did this all happen to me?"
>I know I was very wanted by my family until later.
Is that evidence of an intervention?
> I experienced real evil.
Most people do not, at least not in a personal sense, so is that evidence of intelligent intervention?
>people's choices enable some intelligences to do horrible things until they learn how to best defend themselves
Quite so, but defense is not always possible if there is pre-existing permission, particularly when forgotten or obscured.
>the dog was a demon
Or the dog felt threatened by you, or something around you
> I understand how I was named "in the garden",
I suggest you leave your interpretations aside until you have had a clear look at what ails/assails you.
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Post by luciicul on Mar 10, 2018 0:02:56 GMT
Actually I was very calm, and it was very still and quiet in my house. I'm thinking you haven't looked at any of the ELS codes in English, possibly. I said I would think about your questions some more....I thought of Clay and other intelligences in my home. Clay is also in the ELS. Clay I met sitting on the grass outside my apartment with no shoes on, it was very hot, and needed some water. I invited him inside. A very cute personality, very bald and could sing just about anything. Very caring kind person. Clay was also gifted with mediumship. He came over one day and just out of nowhere says to me, "There's a man in very old robes trying to talk to you. Says his name is James and he's your father." point it's not just me and these things are real, the people are real. While I'd love nothing more than to let you talk to Clay he died from his house catching on fire trying to stay warm. The ELS listing is 3 times luci saw clay before died house fire that day, King's, Jeremiah and Paul to Timothy. Would you like to see the police report ? I had to let them know where he was and what had transpired because it was just hours after I dropped him off at home. He had dinner at my house with my family. These are real people. The events are real events. There's another person I know of the text who told me something that he thought was questionable his whole life that he did not tell just anyone. That account is in there and it involves a demonic presence and says so. I'll have to ask him if he's comfortable with my discussing it. I understand it's a challenge to accept that these are real people and real events. As long as it's taught they do not exist the water just gets dirtier. You do know the word structure in the KJV is to reconstruct the Ark without the idols if you know how to read it ? I only used my path because I am not going to walk in someone else's shoes. It has a real impact on the lives of real people. It borderlines on purposeful genocide of entire groups of people, a very slippery slope. Are your own members in the text expendable ? The only difference is that it's not based on tribalism, or any particular group except that they are in the text. I'm still not upset. Justice and mercy is about dealing with the tree of good and evil, not denying it exists. If you cannot see the very real people in the text that are living who's or what purpose does that serve ? It's definitely not justice and mercy. Maybe y'all should ask the question what force is influencing the decision to deny the existence of very real living people which is certainly not benevolent or from Holy fire. I'm still willing to be open minded and inclusive if someone wants to help proof read. Think about it and have a glorious weekend, please. Luci
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