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Post by peter2 on May 29, 2018 21:01:09 GMT
> then they just stop with no good reason
Did you ask why they stopped?
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Post by luciicul on May 31, 2018 5:54:36 GMT
They just stop. A few were more direct in that they were more dependent on the math and statistics. They just quit talking, or make themselves unavailable to have a conversation, or this one which comes up a lot, they want the politics and the fighting in the text and they try to redirect the conversation about the political unrest.
One is a PhD psychologist and very open minded I talk with about just about everything that's been helping me with my kiddo and my mother and when I pointed out she was in the text suddenly I need to go. This same lady is the person who said to me "What do you mean no one will talk to you. That's mean." And then she did it. Same thing with my kiddo's doctor who was open minded about it. I told him and then all of a sudden we needed to go. Or sometimes they get agitated, people who are normally not that way with me and thy don't want to talk. It's not like I'm publishing people's darkest secrets.
Or other people in the text getting them to talk is a challenge which leaves me very limited in what to say and makes me seem like I'm talking about just my own self only because no one will have a conversation about it. I don't think Mike had a fish named fat ass Luci over fed and died in Job is earth shattering since little sisters do that kind of thing. Wouldn't be the first one. There are some very real statements about demons in the text I know of about people in the text but I haven't said anything publicly because I'd really like to talk about if they even want to first. The only one I have openly talked about was at a Catholic church and you could even tell the priest I was talking to wasn't himself. My prayer candle wouldn't even light. I got to witness Stanley Milgram and Obedience to Authority in action with an entire congregation and those people had no idea what was going on. I haven't looked to see if that's in there, although it probably is in there. I'll never forget what he said that made me think this is not the same person I talked to last week. He got this real mean look on his face and said, " I see you got a new pair of shoes. I need a new pair of shoes." All I could think was why can't he have a new pair of shoes. What he didn't know was in my private journaling I was working on St Francis and why you do own your shoes. How can someone getting a new pair of shoes make someone so agitated ? I had walked my literal shoes til they were falling apart. I don't disbelieve it is my point. But what does one do about that ? I gave him a coin that said "with God all things are possible" and just quietly walked away from that church after they left me outside like shake-n-bake. A few months later on my baptismal date or right around there since I was reading it on the news their sanctuary flooded. I promise you I didn't do it, but it happened. Only connection I could see to that was it was the reason I left, because they refused communion on the priests invitation in the first place based on the notion I hadn't been baptized. If I get any more baptized I'm going to be the most baptized person on the planet.
How exactly is not actually looking at the incredibly harmless 100% true facts a legitimate reason ? How exactly do you get a neutral person to come in and see if they can figure it out if it happens to everyone you talk with about it ? You wouldn't talk about it. The conversation always went somewhere else even if I redirected it to the initial point I was trying to discuss.
Yesterday I had to bury my cat that was dying I gently had the vet put out of suffering. It's in the text in Second Chronicles, would you look it up and verify it ? It says cat came with Luci house died buried under tree, Second Chronicles 21:1-8. That was last night at sunset. The fireflies even came out. It was very quiet and sweet. True the cat came with the house because the owner I bought it from couldn't get her to come out from under it. That can't possibly be threatening to anyone in any way.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on May 31, 2018 8:47:48 GMT
> "What do you mean no one will talk to you. That's mean." And then she did it.
It is apparent to me that conversations not only run on logic and association, they also run on life force energy. Thus a conversation can be nourishing in that it draws the cosmic life force into the participants, or at the other extreme conversation can be draining.
Draining conversation is usually because one of the participants is actually drawing life force from the other participants.
In the middle of that spectrum there are conversations that just run out of energy because there is no cosmic sponsorship. People get tired and move away.
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Post by luciicul on May 31, 2018 15:23:40 GMT
So you like being a battery ??
That's confirming if nothing else.
I found this ELS recently since it relates to our earlier conversation....psalm 33, Kubo and the Two Strings.
I'm not Moiria, but thanks for not considering that.
Luci
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Post by luciicul on Aug 6, 2018 3:56:19 GMT
Ok, just to be civil and inclusive I started a facebook group based on ELS codes and rights called T.O.M. The Omphalic Memo. So if anyone who is in the ELS codes is interested ...... since this is the first place I brought it up and you were kind enough to even have a conversation about it. IF this violates any rules or policies I apologize.
Luci
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Post by luciicul on Aug 7, 2018 4:09:51 GMT
It occurred to me..... Do y'all know where Anno Lucis comes from ?
It's not a trick of devisive question. You said in your film you didn't know where you came from in origin.
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Post by luciicul on Aug 7, 2018 4:29:26 GMT
Ok...Matthew 28:7-11 Leucippe
Just thought I'd take the burden off someone's shoulders.
It's the only place my actual name is listed. And yes it did happen.
ELS.....
14 rows, 31 columns, 434 characters
I don't know what to do with this anymore. I have no one to talk to that I can relate with and my friends don't even know what to say.
Y'all wrote it, sort of. I don't know whether to say thank you or not.
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Post by peter2 on Aug 7, 2018 7:20:05 GMT
> I don't know whether to say thank you or not.
As you may know, most humans cannot control their mental processes and as a result they are easily manipulated by stronger thinkers - including inhuman and nonphysical thinkers.
In some 40 years of technical observation I have met 5 humans that could control their mental process - and I was active in a number of spiritual organizations in several countries.
Now despite the fact that very few can control their thoughts, humans are not entirely without merit and many can sense what is Real and what is Unreal.
Do you see where this is going?
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Post by luciicul on Aug 7, 2018 20:45:49 GMT
I know of quite a few people who are not in control of their thoughts. You know I've had multiple consultations with a PhD psychologist who to quote "I'd love to talk with you about it but I have no training in it." She wouldn't understand what it's like to foresee your entire day before it happens. It's not someone know me. I'm going to share what happened Friday and you tell me who can relate to that. All I did was just think about it. Friday, Aug. 3, 2018 OK, that was weird, but cool. Got Mormons coming to my house looking for Lucy, a different Luci. That was a conversation, but I was polite and I hope I didn't say something to scare them. Elder Fox was very polite, very evangelical, and respectable. Wants me to focus on simple truths....if only that were true about all things. This gets weirder, because yes I checked it in the text.....Act 22:16-27:19......Elder Fox talked with Luci August third....no poopies. Maybe I should tell him.......Also says ... Elder Fox and Rowell talked with Luci third...John 19:31-20:25, which is inclusive of the other Elder present. This would be true because Elder Fox did all the talking, but Elder Rowell was there being supportive. And he's concerned about my relationship with Jesus......... Sometimes I feel like I am subjected to the beings of a committee... a committee of 3237 people, and Torah is 372. Weird or What ? 3237 + 24 spells Hera, a world in which man does not exist, darkness, or 3261. I for one prefer a world with man.......what a boring as hell world it would be without man. And from the inner to the outer and then outer to inner thats Elyon, or I, and Eve right/left ....162 33 261. It occurred to me later I dreamt this in the hospital when I was dying with no numbers and my walker was my "car". The point of it was....don't go all the way to the left. LOL Letter V, like drawing back an arrow or yareh..................132, center 3, to the left, turn around go back, 2, pass 3 to 1. LOL. Tell me I'm not the only Word architecture nerd that thinks that's funny.....why at 3 am ...... ? Did you know that 24 is also the 24 praises of Solomon bringing the Ark of the Covenant into the Temple?. Solomon is 618, or the third permutation of man, 168 . So where did that come from in first place...architecturally.....H would be in column 3, E would be in column 2, R would be in column 6, and A would be in column 1 in a lunar formation of 9. For it to be an Earth based formation in a straight line that does not change except that there are 27 columns. Taken from psalms in a vertical line in an Elyon form it's expansive right/left, as opposed to horizontally. Adam is vertically right/left, and that forms a cross in it's transition from lunar to Earth based. Do you think Elder Fox is in control of his thoughts ? I think possibly the person who told me to shove my group up my *** and demon worship with someone else may not be. I understand Stanley Millgrams point about obedience to authority if that's what you are getting at....that not one person opened the door to check on the guy they were "teacher" to. Not where Anno Lucis comes from. It's latin for Lucinda Anne. That's what it is trying to tell y'all in Matthew. 14 verses from psalm 19, add 10 to 444, and I was 31 years old, Leucippe, or Year 2002, John 20:02. Year 2018, John 20:18, that's now, or Psalm 20, Trust not in horses or chariots. John 20:01 corresponds to Genesis 1:1, year 2001. I know a lot of very Real facts in the text. Doesn't mean I tell them all. They are not all everyone's business, nor my place to say. "Superman's newspaper". You know there are two points of view on the moral of the story about Zeus and Athena. One is he didn't want his daughter to have to learn by experience when conquering time, and yet he couldn't stop it from happening...... Knowing doesn't change I have no one to relate with that I can have conversation with about it because of all the Unreal Untruth. But have a great day. I have a date with a hill billy hot tub. Wasn't intending to give an impression it's impacting my ability to tell what is real or what is not. Luci
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Post by luciicul on Aug 8, 2018 18:07:59 GMT
It occurred to me.....did Isaac Newton get that far ? I don't want to read his book and corrupt my thought path which is leaning heavily towards there is no "end" per say.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Aug 8, 2018 22:54:01 GMT
>I feel like I am subjected to the beings of a committee
Quite correct. So what is the nature of that committee? How do you know?
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Post by luciicul on Aug 9, 2018 2:02:36 GMT
I felt it and thought about it. Since the entire book is essentially "walking through the shadow of death" and there is two layers of relevant context prior to the english, seemed the most logical answer, how many named people. Took me maybe an hour to process and write it down.
Then there's this one thing.....yes, this is metaphorical but maybe analogously the best way to put it.....ever see the Lucy movie ? One thing that stood out, the white car. Ever take a laser pointer and move it in a circle real fast ? Makes it more visible not less. Just like you use your whole mind not part of it.
Nature of that committee....not a good question to ask someone with a history of being "possessed". I don't think my opinion/perception would be unbiased, honestly. But.....if you load an Ark you have to unload it at some point. Time is just a measure of events, a descriptor, not the events themselves. Have a theory....DNA and it's components is a "committee" that moves horizontally and vertically too. Luci
Added note, I know the difference in reincarnation and false reincarnation is that your name does not change regardless of when. One could consider false reincarnation a "committee" making unconsented decisions for you.
If I said, "Stupid fat hobbit. He ruins it", which one is most subjected to the "committee" ? The hobbit or the golem ? I know it depends on what your goals are to be accomplished.
Observation.....I have this little program that is supposed to detect ghosts. While I don't need a program for that the significant observation is that the settings are being changed remotely. That grass is the same green on either side.
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Post by peter2 on Aug 9, 2018 2:56:36 GMT
>Nature of that committee....not a good question to ask someone with a history of being "possessed
Is that the essence of the situation? The preconditions leading to possession are often quite subtle and are not easily resolved.
I saw a case where the possessing entity edited the human's memory so that the human remained ignorant and therefore could not untangle the situation.
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Post by luciicul on Aug 9, 2018 19:38:58 GMT
I've had it happen enough I can spot it. That wasn't true years ago. Did you know that if you follow the same pattern for Adam in psalms it will restore your memory ? That thing about your name does not change..... I have some memory problems but not from that. Think I had a TIA from the bypass procedure because I had all the symptoms, but I can see why you would be considering that. And it's not that the person cannot necessarily remember. Might be true for some personalities and children, but I remember being in my own skin and watching someone else who took control. I can describe the house they were operating from in detail. It was like watching it through a glass wall. Similar to but not the same as PTSD. PTSD is more like watching a movie you can't turn off. Glass walls you can break. More like a giant pile of poopy that just gets bigger and bigger. Eventually they start singing O'Fortuna of their own making. Then there are jumpers....I know a way to test it though but I don't think you would be down for it. Would you like to play a game ? Pick one.
There's another thing going on and I will figure it out. I found out people's computer passwords are in the text. Just uses two words instead of a compound word. I don't venture into other people's personal business, but other people do.
I can admit I give credence to the stereo type that women use more words. Working on that.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Aug 9, 2018 20:55:31 GMT
> I remember being in my own skin and watching someone else who took control. I can describe the house they were operating from in detail So was this another human operating your body? Is there some part of your system that they cannot access?
Visualize a flame in the center of your heart. Stand inside it. Are you safe from manipulation when there?
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Post by luciicul on Aug 10, 2018 0:04:55 GMT
Hoorah, you ignored the game question.
It was a committee of people. Wasn't subtle and a literal house. They have a statue in the attic with a saying over the door and from the stairs that lead up from the kitchen. Whole bunch of people in there who didn't know why they were there. Grey. Not much in their house. White colonial columns, either in the country or in a city with a large sum of land. Got a row tall straight trees on both sides of the house. Long circular driveway with a fountain in the center. The foyer is set up so that it accesses the front and back door both, empty room on the left of the house. Kitchen is on the right. Two stories. Large set up of a whole bunch of video screens in the foyer so they can watch every door. Kitchen door has been permanently locked. Past the kitchen there are a few other rooms, so it's not a newer open floor plan for the size of the house. Like no one actually lives there but they use it for other activities....
Some part of my system....moral choice and a hard headed case of NO. Somebody seems to think they can drill a hole from the outside. That doesn't work too well when you can grab the bit and pull it out of the drill, bring other people to see them drilling and they don't even know what they are drilling through.
Uh, telling someone who's name means light to stand inside a flame is redundant. Nothing personal. I'm not a candle, but it does remind me of the guy with the house and the walls composed of letters.... He wanted me to stand in the flame too. Didn't know Dorothy could see through that curtain until I flew through the door. That was truly all metaphorical analogy. Maybe not on the suggestion. I'm not interested in opening a portal for King Lycaeon.
Did you consider that maybe it really is just a matter of not having anyone to relate with ? You ever see "Knowing". Surely you've seen "Man of Steel". Wonder why it is they put them both in a closet and what that metaphor means. Pretty accurate metaphor in some respects. They knew what to write because someone can read the code and it's being exploited for a dollar. I wasn't born yesterday. Just like there is no Diana, or Wonder Woman. It's the Hera rendition of Luci. Not interested in relating to hedonists who only want yes/no answers either. It's the inverse of 47133174, Luci. That's why it says Diana is going to die in the film. I didn't do that. The sun isn't going to explode. There is no Diana. It's Artemis. Somebody is playing games with people and I'm not it.
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Post by luciicul on Aug 11, 2018 3:19:11 GMT
Kind of a bit much to absorb. I'm used to it, sort of. Diana is the a to the o in Adoni. It's the naming of the narcisscism issue, the transition from Artemis to the beauty of God. I'm not Dorothean, was just a very appropriate analogy.
In all fairness to completely answer your question, I was fighting an attempted possession before my heart attack, one of but not the only contributing factor. Maybe that's what you are sensing. They did not want me to walk through psalms, very much so. I made it to psalm 8 before my heart attack. I just had to recently put a pause on it.... so in many ways y'all are right on about the importance of self. But if you read it wrong it becomes a problem. I had to throw Hades out of my house. In some ways I feel bad about it, and in many ways I very much do not. I know that's hard to understand for many, but it's because he did something that was very protective which is contrary to what many have been taught. That's my best honest answer to your question.
Can I ask you an honest question and get an answer ? Did you take an oath that incorporates Helios, aka "the eye" ?
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Aug 11, 2018 6:50:55 GMT
> I was fighting an attempted possession before my heart attack I have observed a couple of cases from close at hand and one thing that struck me was how many layers of control/influence are established - over several lifetimes. The target human thinks they have escaped only to fall prey to another layer of embedded energy patterns/structures
It is standard to put traps into the human system that are triggered by anything that might lead to an escape. One woman got close to understanding her situation and her digestive system shut down almost completely. She very nearly starved to death while eating regularly. So I was very careful not to explain much to her about the controls upon her nevertheless I triggered a low level alarm and she told me that I knew too much about her so she ceased contact.
The possessing entities can manipulate the human's body to cause pain and pleasure as intermediate means of control.
>Did you take an oath that incorporates Helios, aka "the eye" No. My obligation was in terms of the Great Architect of the Universe. No definition was given but occasionally I see His/Her energy flows. I use energy tests to assist with accurate identification. The GAOTU has a male face towards this set of universes and a female face towards the other set. There are much greater Beings beyond. The imagery of the all-seeing eye is complex as various entities can be linked to that concept depending upon the level of awareness on which the human is operating. At the lowest level the all-seeing eye is the Five Eyes, then various external entities including one of the later gods - known by different names in various lands, then some non-physical beings that are responsible for aspects of planetary functionality, then The Silent Watcher that uses the planet as a body of incarnation, and so on.
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Post by luciicul on Aug 13, 2018 3:25:55 GMT
Yes, and it can cause personality changes most especially if you fight back. I take notes. It showed.
GAOTU......XY, or 294, Athena, or 144+150, not 42x7 (which might have been true at one time). Ra and Adam are both 114, but Helios is 408. There are differences... I understand some of that from a much differing view point. I went from Athena, Artemis, Aphrodite to....there's a fourth unnamed/named part in that, equivalent to an 8th day. Maybe that's where I get people confused, since light is a titan.
I painted these to be all inclusive. I can see what you are saying in it. And there are two sides to each one, in colors. The vertical one isn't finished. I have to finish walking through psalms to finish it and something, or someone doesn't want me to do so. I'm stuck on psalm 48. I'm not a believer in an eye for an eye, but an I for an I.
The irony being that my father was literally an architect and my grandfather was a teaching Shriner 33rd degree, although he died 9 years before I was born at the lodge. We might have a few disagreements on a few things but I think we are actually talking about the same things.
Luci
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Post by peter2 on Aug 13, 2018 4:00:35 GMT
>GAOTU......XY, or 294, Athena, or 144+150, not 42x7 (which might have been true at one time).
Is it not easier just to talk to them telepathically?
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