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Post by sid on Aug 16, 2018 22:10:50 GMT
I have not been on here for a number of years, and thought I'd drop by again. Good to see you're still going strong. Amongst my many interests including fremasonry, I'm also interested in Rosicrucianism, Templarism, Martinism etc. I am also interested in the subject of numbers and the Naometria,symbols and symbolism etc.
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Post by 2211 on Aug 17, 2018 23:41:28 GMT
Hi Sid I'm new to this site, and have recognized your old posts Perhaps you can help me with numbers?
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Post by sid on Aug 18, 2018 9:20:05 GMT
Hi Sid I'm new to this site, and have recognized your old posts Perhaps you can help me with numbers? Hi, My old posts are still on here? Where? Not sure how I can help you with numbers. I'll have to think about that.
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Post by 2211 on Aug 18, 2018 19:54:20 GMT
Only a few of your old posts still exist. I remember reading a few of them, here is one I found using quick search.... F. de P. Castell's book "Our Ancient Brethren" Aug 10, 2008 at 5:03pm Quote Post Options . Post by on Aug 10, 2008 at 5:03pm Greetings, Just received this & thought I'd pass it on: I have not read F. de P. Castell's "Our Ancient Brethren". Nor am I a Freemason. However, for what it's worth, I set out below two viewpoints that I found on-line: 1) Greg, Master Mason (G. Pappas "wisdom seeker") gave the book a 5 star rating on amazon.com, and commented: "Excellent, If you are a Mason researching our past or thinking of becoming one, this book is for you!!!" At this time, there are no votes on whether or not Greg's review was found helpful. ( www.amazon.com/Our-Ancient-Brethren-Originators-Freemasonry/dp/0766136515/ ) 2) R. A. Gilbert in "Freemasonry and the Hermetic Tradition" wrote: "To the conclusive demonstration of such links masonic writers of esoteric inclination have devoted their literary careers, only to have their work rejected as unsound by more prosaic masonic scholars. "Esoteric" masons, however, have been, and still are, mightily impressed by the apparent scholarship of authors such as the Rev. F. de P. Castells, who considered that he had proved beyond doubt the link with the Rosicrucians, and maintained that "Freemasonry originated with certain Hebrew mystics associated with the Temple of Jerusalem, and that they are represented by the Kabbalists of historic times." (Our Ancient Brethren the Originators of Freemasonry, 1932, p. 24) Castells wrote during the 1920s and '30s, and although he was far from being the first masonic "historian" on whom occultists had drawn, he was among the most impressive, for he united his historical studies with a critical analysis of masonic rituals and their symbolism. And it is masonic symbolism that has proven always more irresistible to the occultist even than masonic history." ( www.mastermason.com/luxocculta/hermetic.htm ) Best Sid
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Post by sid on Aug 18, 2018 20:02:32 GMT
Most of my comments about numbers etc., are at the Facebook group "Naometria [Nova] 1604". My focus is on the 3 Rosicrucian manifestos and the work of Simon Studion.
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Post by 2211 on Aug 21, 2018 2:00:06 GMT
Was there an earlier version of Naometria? - I remember reading a comment of an earlier version dealing with The Temple and 606 I have a copy of an early version from Lamberts Encyclopedia, there have been associations between The Temple and Rosslyn I have only been able to locate a German version of Naometria, is there a Latin or English Version?
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Post by sid on Aug 21, 2018 4:26:46 GMT
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Post by sid on Aug 21, 2018 22:06:55 GMT
Thanks. The CV of Simon Studion is a good introduction to the subject of the Naometria. All of the works by Studion that I have seen thus far, have all been in Latin. This would include his 'History of Wuertemberg' and his monumental 'Wedding' text of some 10,000 verses.
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Post by sid on Aug 21, 2018 22:08:27 GMT
What can you tell me about the German (?) version? Thanks. The CV of Simon Studion is a good introduction to the subject of the Naometria. All of the works by Studion that I have seen thus far, have all been in Latin. This would include his 'History of Wuertemberg' and his monumental 'Wedding' text of some 10,000 verses.
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Post by sid on Aug 21, 2018 23:16:40 GMT
The 'Rose of Jericho'. This may not be 100 % 'perfect' but I thourht I'd re-post it anyway: Greetings, The 'Rose of Jericho', the Rosicrucians and the Templar, suggesting(?) that there was no possible link between the two. Looking through the Fama you will find that the following 3 books are mentioned: Liber 'M', Liber 'T', and Liber 'H'. Book 'M' is generally believed to be the book of nature, but some have even suggested it to be the book Miomenedes (Spl.?). The book 'T' is believed to be the book Theologia or the Holy Bible, and the book 'H' is believed to be the book of Hermes Trismegistos (Spl.?). In our present alphabet the letter 'H' is the 8th letter, then the 5th letter on is the letter 'M', then the 7th letter after this is the letter 'T'. Interestingly, these are also important numbers in the measurements of the vault of CRC in the Fama Fraternitatis, i.e., the cave has 7 sides, each with a width of 5 shoes, and a hight of 8 shoes. (5 + 8 + 5 + 8 = 26 for each wall of the vault of CR) Another meaning of the letters M.T.H.: In 1119 Balduin II, King of Jerusalem gave the knights a number of buildings that were near the area of what used to be the temple of Solomon, and from then on the knights were known as the 'Order of the Knights of the Temple of Jerusalem' or "Militia Templi Hiersolymitani" (M.T.H.), and in the Fama the 3 books are mentioned called Liber M, T and H. Like the 'Militia', the book 'M' also had 2 parts, i.e., soldiers and priests. Like their banner, a light of the night (moon) 'black' (the Arabic 'day' starts when the sun sets and the moon rises), and the light of the day (sun) white. In the 'Rota' picture of Fiore the sun is above and behind the moon. Both are in the East(?). Both are the virticle 'axis' (= Alpha & Omega) of the circle/temple, and this is the same with the symbol of the 'Monas' (Dee) in the first day of the wedding. Hiero/solyma = Hiero = picture in stone. Hieros = Holy, sacred, see or Sancti Spiritus, and the word solyma = reclaimed.(?) Hierichuntis = Jericho. The hereldic animal of Jericho was the lion. The year 1119 1+1+1+9 = 12 = 11 + 19 = 30 x 12 = 360. It has been stated that the first 4 brothers mentioned in the Fama were each of the number 26 which x 4 = 104 which is also the numerical value of the word 'VITRIOL' when the old latin alphabet is used in sequence. The second group of brothers each represented the triangulation of the number 26 which is 351 which x 4 = 1404 which is the year that the Order R+C was founded. The temple of Solomon, or perhaps the temple of the Knights Templar of the 'Order of the Knights of the Temple of Jerusalem' or "Militia Templi Hiersolymitani" (M.T.H.)? Also if you use the Monas symbol as an axis with the year Anno 1459 at its base, and subtract 145 years, you will have the year 1314 when the Order of the Temple was closed and hidden. Add 145 years to the year of the wedding and you have the year 1604, which is when the Vault of Christian Rosenkreuz was 'discovered' and 'opened' in Germany. The 'rose of jericho' in europe is an interesting plant of 'two houses' i.e., it has 2 sexes, the white flower (mostly male) and the red flower (mostly female). In english it is also called cats paws. There is also an old Brandenburg fairy-tale about the German Templar helping the Knights Templar to find refuge from persecution. It is called 'Rote Immortalle' Rose von Jericho in German land/soil/state (of Brandenburg). (Red 'cats paws' Gnaphalium dioicum L.) -- Regards, Sid "The art and seal of nature is simplicity" "Secrets written down are worthless" - Heinrich Khunrath 1560-1605 Hi Sid I'm new to this site, and have recognized your old posts Perhaps you can help me with numbers?
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Post by 2211 on Aug 25, 2018 0:02:37 GMT
Aug 21, 2018 18:08:27 GMT -4 sid said: What can you tell me about the German (?) version?
--My apologies the site I was downloading from was in German--text is Latin I will read through it
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Interesting regarding the flower of Jericho When dealing with these older texts, which alphabet is applied when adding up the letters?
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Post by sid on Aug 25, 2018 0:08:14 GMT
Aug 21, 2018 18:08:27 GMT -4 sid said: What can you tell me about the German (?) version? --My apologies the site I was downloading from was in German--text is Latin I will read through it ------- Interesting regarding the flower of Jericho When dealing with these older texts, which alphabet is applied when adding up the letters? Mainly the 'simple' latin version i.e., A,B,C = 1,2,3 etc., but use the latin alphabet of that period. Both Greek and Hebrew letters are also used.
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