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Post by gnosticchristian on Sept 20, 2018 0:11:05 GMT
Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.
Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.
Would you do as Adam did?
Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?
Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?
Regards DL
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Post by The Ancient on Sept 21, 2018 2:43:07 GMT
This name is only a few thousand years old, are you certain this is how he should be understood?
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Post by peter2 on Sept 21, 2018 5:44:12 GMT
Locally the Prince of Peace and the Prince of Darkness can be found in the Sumerian accounts. As it happened the Prince of Darkness inherited the Earth - being the first son born to the wife of the heavenly sovereign. The Prince of Peace was actually the first born but by a concubine and therefore did not inherit this planet.
The conflict between the 2 sons of the heavenly sovereign was part of the war in the heavens - that continues to this day.
The peace/dark duality was from the human perspective.
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Post by gnosticchristian on Sept 21, 2018 17:12:14 GMT
This name is only a few thousand years old, are you certain this is how he should be understood? If I did not, I would not have written the O.P. as I did.
Regards DL
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Post by gnosticchristian on Sept 21, 2018 17:17:27 GMT
Locally the Prince of Peace and the Prince of Darkness can be found in the Sumerian accounts. As it happened the Prince of Darkness inherited the Earth - being the first son born to the wife of the heavenly sovereign. The Prince of Peace was actually the first born but by a concubine and therefore did not inherit this planet.
The conflict between the 2 sons of the heavenly sovereign was part of the war in the heavens - that continues to this day.
The peace/dark duality was from the human perspective. Indeed, because they did not see the good in evil.
Some of the old Christians may have since they wrote a hymn calling Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.
It is hard to say how much wisdom was in Christianity before Christians became dumbed down literal readers of myths and became idol worshipers of a genocidal son murdering satanic demiurge Yahweh that they somehow see as good.
Regards DL
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Post by The Ancient on Sept 22, 2018 14:30:21 GMT
DL, Is this deep, divine knowledge salvation of the soul? Is this your God within?
How does this move beyond a doomed imprisonment? As a simpleton, there is no path to light/energy in any of your statements. Please enlighten, shepherd the way.
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Post by gnosticchristian on Sept 23, 2018 20:38:11 GMT
DL, Is this deep, divine knowledge salvation of the soul? Is this your God within? How does this move beyond a doomed imprisonment? As a simpleton, there is no path to light/energy in any of your statements. Please enlighten, shepherd the way. You need a path to light/energy. Try the wall plug.
Regards DL
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Post by The Ancient on Sept 24, 2018 1:22:42 GMT
Seems to me I've heard this SUPERB response before.
A lack of respect for the dignity of other beings is not wisdom, it is ignorance. You may see the world as imperfect, however, the the mathematical components of all are in homogeneous order. I hope that your blasphemous nature will one day recognize this, the most sensible of all explanations. Your wrongful approach to a rewritten branch of Alchemy will leave you stuck in matter, rightfully so.
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Post by gnosticchristian on Sept 25, 2018 18:35:28 GMT
Seems to me I've heard this SUPERB response before. A lack of respect for the dignity of other beings is not wisdom, it is ignorance. So start respecting people instead of being a swollen headed jerk.
Regards DL
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Post by The Ancient on Sept 26, 2018 13:39:08 GMT
This, the only statement you can absorb? I'll further it, the order of wholeness is not exclusive of one another but compliment each other. Is your agenda too narrow to reply the other aforesaid statements and/or questions?
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Post by The Ancient on Oct 1, 2018 1:27:11 GMT
No reply? Just as I suspected, a Gnostic fraud.
Sad that your intellect comes from severe criticism of other religions, a deterioration of knowledge in the heart. True Gnosis has great promise yet, you fail to impress.
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Post by blossom on Oct 4, 2018 6:59:01 GMT
Resist not evil .. isolate it (Don't respond)
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Post by The Ancient on Oct 6, 2018 17:12:14 GMT
I have not always been light. It has always been about understanding the balance. For instance, dark is to be confronted with dark but dark cannot confront light from light, only from an illusion thereof. I do not view it as a response, I view it as helping to further define thought. It was in hope to do so for everyone as it did for me in my latest thread, Gnosticism/Alexandria. I am sorry that the light in my heart was not more visible.
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Post by gnosticchristian on Oct 6, 2018 20:43:07 GMT
Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways. Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations. Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality. topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXkHumanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these. Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these. Regards DL
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Post by peter2 on Oct 6, 2018 23:20:21 GMT
It may be of use to separate the inner aspects of a religion from the human and organizational aspects.
Further, a well-founded religion may be partially captured by adverse spirit entities. For example the Spirit of the planet Mars is active within some Muslim and Christian organizations producing crusades and jihads. But in both cases, the prehuman essence remains of value to many Earth humans
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Post by gnosticchristian on Oct 7, 2018 16:40:15 GMT
It may be of use to separate the inner aspects of a religion from the human and organizational aspects. Further, a well-founded religion may be partially captured by adverse spirit entities. For example the Spirit of the planet Mars is active within some Muslim and Christian organizations producing crusades and jihads. But in both cases, the prehuman essence remains of value to many Earth humans You go ahead and try to take the human out of religion. I do not have that time to waste.
Regards DL
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Post by The Ancient on Oct 7, 2018 20:10:34 GMT
I am sorry KA, did you mean take the soul out of the human?
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Post by gnosticchristian on Oct 8, 2018 14:54:42 GMT
I am sorry KA, did you mean take the soul out of the human? KA?
Regards DL
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Post by The Ancient on Oct 9, 2018 23:47:50 GMT
I am sorry KA, did you mean take the soul out of the human? KA?
Regards DL
That explains it very well. I will only say that I also entertained Gnostics as well as other discipline in my adolescence. I realized they all share the same core. In all establishments, God is sovereignty. There is no partisans in the core/trunk although, branches may bear that fruit. Please take the time to maintain your threads, it will eventually be good for you. Also, you should not wield such big things.
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Post by gnosticchristian on Oct 15, 2018 18:15:36 GMT
That explains it very well. I will only say that I also entertained Gnostics as well as other discipline in my adolescence. I realized they all share the same core. In all establishments, God is sovereignty. There is no partisans in the core/trunk although, branches may bear that fruit. Please take the time to maintain your threads, it will eventually be good for you. Also, you should not wield such big things. What explains what.
My asking what you meant by Ka explains what?
We likely do not define soul the same way. Sorry if I though you off. Give your definition and I will give mine if different.
If you are saying that God is sovereignty in Gnostic Christianity, you are way off base.
Wield what big things. You are speaking in riddles and this poor Frenchman can't keep up.
Regards DL
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