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Post by ingo on Nov 23, 2004 7:19:22 GMT
To all: Every master mason knows them:
M..h...b.... and M...c B....c
Does anyone know the meaning of them?
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Post by Stash on Nov 23, 2004 7:26:03 GMT
M...b....c signifies "He lives in the SON."
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Post by ingo on Nov 23, 2004 7:33:07 GMT
The mason Rudolf Steiner wrote about the meaning of M..c B....c:
"The spiritual-emotional has separated from the physical"
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Post by taylorsman on Nov 23, 2004 8:50:29 GMT
In most UGLE Lodges whatever the Ritual used it is usually said to mean "The Death of the Builder" and "The Builder is smitten".
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Post by Agent J on Nov 23, 2004 12:38:18 GMT
this is spooky...I only discovered last night that one of these words features as the name of a character mentioned in the Eighth degree of the Ancient and Accepted (Scottish) Rite...or at least did at one time. The Degree is Intendant of the Buildings or Master in Israel...
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Post by JudasImok on Nov 25, 2004 6:17:04 GMT
M...b....c signifies "He lives in the SON." According to Mackey's Encyclopedia... Masonic writers have generally given to this word the meaning of "is smitten," deriving it probably from the Hebrew verb m.ch.., to smite. Others, again, think it is the word m..k, rottenness, and suppose that it means "he is rotten." Both derivations are, in Brother Mackey's opinion, incorrect. M..c is a constituent part of the word m..c b....c, which is the substitute Master's Word in the French Rite, and which is interpreted by the French ritualists as meaning "he lives in the son." But such a derivation can find no support in any known Hebrew root. Another interpretation must be sought. Doctor Mackey believed there is evidence, circumstantial at least, to show that the word was, if not an invention of the Sentient or Dermott Freemasons, at least adopted by them in distinction from the one used by the Moderns, which latter is the word now in use in the United States of America. "Brother Mackey was disposed to attribute the introduction of the word into Freemasonry to the adherents of the House of Stuart, who sought in every way to make the Institution of Freemasonry a political instrument in their schemes for the restoration of their exiled monarch. Thus the old phrase, "the Widow's Son," was applied by them to James II, who was the son of Henrietta Maria, the widow of Charles I. So, instead of the old Master's word which had hitherto been used, they invented m..c b....c out of the Gaelie, which to them was, on recount of their Highland supporters, almost a sacred language in the place of Hebrew. Now, in Gaelic, M..c is son, and b....c is blessed, from the active verb oeannaichy to bless." "Therefore we find, without any of those distortions to which etymologists so often recur, that m..c b....c means in Gaelic the blessed son. This word the Stuart Freemasons applied to their idol, the Pretender, the son of Charles I."
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Post by Stash on Nov 25, 2004 6:38:58 GMT
Judas...thanks for clearing up, and specifying that topic, I just learned more!!
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Post by JudasImok on Nov 25, 2004 6:51:05 GMT
No prob Stash, I have lots of fun researching things like that. ;D
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Post by Stash on Nov 25, 2004 6:54:32 GMT
In that case, keep em' coming!!
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Post by JudasImok on Nov 25, 2004 7:33:57 GMT
this is spooky...I only discovered last night that one of these words features as the name of a character mentioned in the Eighth degree of the Ancient and Accepted (Scottish) Rite...or at least did at one time. The Degree is Intendant of the Buildings or Master in Israel... Yes. He was the leader of the fifteen masters who discovered the body of H.A.B., at least that's what I recall. and for the meaning... my understanding is "Marrow of the B..."
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Post by hollandr on Jan 1, 2005 1:33:49 GMT
Somewhere in my readings I found a credible account of the words in question being Egyptian. But the translation escapes me so it must have been fairly consistent with our current interpretation.
Some sources consider the use of maha to be significant in itself.
In hindu (and presumably sanscrit) maha means great as in maha-cohen - literally great priest (although probably derived from 2 languages)
Russell Holland
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