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Post by hollandr on Apr 2, 2008 9:24:45 GMT
Maat suggested this thread and it is indeed a worthwhile study
Thus, how do we distinguish light from darkness?
Do we guess?
Do we trust certain names?
Do we trust what our parents taught us?
Are there ways of testing for light and darkness?
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Post by maat on Apr 2, 2008 22:29:57 GMT
Well I for one find this subject very confusing. Many times I have found darkness where I thought I would find light, and light where I thought it was dark.
I think Light is some undefinable thing that spurs you on to do better in thought, word and deed. It is something that helps diminish the barrier between self and not self.
Darkness would necessarily have the opposite effect.
Maat
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Post by hollandr on Apr 2, 2008 22:40:14 GMT
> helps diminish the barrier between self and not self.
That is a good observation as darkness tends to separate and light to unify.
But can dark groups have unity?
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Post by chriswitt on Apr 3, 2008 9:59:30 GMT
But can dark groups have unity? Like attracts like I tend to agree with Maat. I think things are rarely as they seem. Maybe this is because of the instability of the human race as a whole. (chequered pavement?)
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Post by hollandr on Apr 3, 2008 10:04:34 GMT
> I think things are rarely as they seem.
So how do you distinguish the light from the dark?
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Post by chriswitt on Apr 3, 2008 10:05:48 GMT
> I think things are rarely as they seem. So how do you distinguish the light from the dark? At present, I don't believe I can.
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Post by hollandr on Apr 3, 2008 10:28:18 GMT
>At present, I don't believe I can.
A good realisation. Now you can search for a means if you wish
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Post by chriswitt on Apr 3, 2008 10:38:36 GMT
Now you can search for a means if you wish It is on my mind, 100% of the time. How might one begin?
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Post by hollandr on Apr 3, 2008 12:14:23 GMT
Here is an adaptation of paired comparisons:
- Identify a known light character with which you can connect inwardly e.g. the Christ or Gautama the Buddha - Draw light from them to generate visualise and Intend a light energy field a short distance in front of you and to one side - Identify a known dark character with which you can connect inwardly e.g. Hitler - Draw darkness from them to generate, visualise and Intend a dark energy field a short distance in front of you and to the other one side - Establish (visualise and intend) a light-dark spectrum between them - Test the spectrum by introducing a known character into the spectrum and moving that character until its lightness matches part of the spectrum. You could try Mahatma Gandhi. He should be more to the light end of the spectrum - Try some other known characters until you are satisfied that your test spectrum is working
Thus you have built a simple instrument for assessing light and darkness
If you want further validation you can train others that you trust and compare observations.
Note:
- light and dark are not the same as good and evil - your assessments of light and dark are best kept to yourself - light and dark both have their proper places within creation - occasionally you will meet people who have unusual planetary roles that are not to be judged by human standards - fairly frequently you will discover humans with significant darkness in karmic situations
Most Importantly:
- surround yourself with Christed white-gold light before starting any assessments. - work with trusted others wherever possible - do not take risks by approaching or trying to attract dark beings - do not undertake assessments when feeling disturbed
Let me know how you go
Cheers
Russell
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Post by chriswitt on Apr 3, 2008 21:33:28 GMT
1- light and dark are not the same as good and evil 2- occasionally you will meet people who have unusual planetary roles that are not to be judged by human standards 3- fairly frequently you will discover humans with significant darkness in karmic situations 4- do not take risks by approaching or trying to attract dark beings Thanks Russell. Just a few questions. 1. Is it possible therefore to be "good" & "dark"; "light" & "evil"? 2. How do you find these people appear? 3. Can assistance be offered? 4. What is the danger here? Chris
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Post by hollandr on Apr 3, 2008 22:31:02 GMT
> Is it possible therefore to be "good" & "dark"; "light" & "evil"? Quite so. Darkness tends to build separateness. For example taking time for oneself and eating allows one to build a human body and personality. Light tends to give. Often those who give too much burn out by not taking time for themselves or eating properly. Thus excessive light can be evil. Similarly excessive darkness can be evil by retarding the indwelling spirit in its return to its source. >How do you find these people appear? I assume you are referring to people with unusual planetary roles. I will give a small scale example. Many years ago I lived in a spiritually significant community. There was an elderly woman there called Mary. I often noticed her complaining about things in the community centre. One day I asked her if she thought that her complaining served some higher purpose and she replied that she was sure it did. She told me that the community founder (who prided himself on his strong will) had tried to get rid of her several times and had failed. It seemed to me that her function was to collect discontent and crystalise it, rather as local government pays for garbage collectors to gather together the rubbish so it can be dealt with. She agreed with that assessment. In that case her continual complaining provided a focus for dealing with difficulties experienced by many who preferred not to voice them >Can assistance be offered? I recall the founder of that community on various occasions would make decisions with which members would disagree. And the members often being more aspirational than spiritual would direct lots of disturbed emotions towards the founder. So on occasion I would see him walking around with his shoulders slumped and his head down under the emotional burden. There was a temptation to assist him inwardly and I discussed this with a radionics practitioner with whom I used to cooperate en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RadionicsAnd she told me that her spiritual guides did not permit her to treat him. When I looked further I saw that several energy fields coincided in him in a rather delicate balance so that any interference with any of them would likely result in making him unstable in some way. As an example of that, the radionics practitioner had inherited leg troubles so that the legs hardly worked. She walked with 2 sticks and could often be seen laboriously working her way down stairs. New members were likely to rush over to help her but that was the last thing she needed. She was very precariously balancing the gravitational effects and the slightest uncoordinated force would result in her falling over. It is the same for some of those people who have planetary tasks >What is the danger here? I assume you refer to doing light-dark assessments. My concern is that many people are susceptible to dark interference and may need to protect themselves before setting up a dark-light spectrum. On the other hand, ignorance is not a defense against darkness and the sooner people can measure darkness the sooner they can start to rescue themselves by steering clear of dark people. Rescuing others can be quite tricky and should not be attempted until: - one knows one's own darkness and light in great detail and - a significant inner sponsor has agreed to provide guidance, feedback and protection. This is because almost every darkness has a greater sponsor that looks after its own and seeks to expand its territory. Such dark entities can be quite profound. Cheers Russell
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Post by chriswitt on Apr 25, 2008 20:02:50 GMT
Hi Russell.
I have had this task on my mind for a few weeks now and am having difficulty setting it up.
1. Even with two diverse characters such as Hitler/Jesus I am struggling to build a spectrum. Not with the latter character but with the former.
2. When attempting to make observations, I find my own spectrum is affected. To the point of confusion. I have tried to visualise the Christed white gold.
Questions regarding No 2. Is this a normal occurence? Does this relate to stability/tyling?
I liken the experience to that of being an energy mirror.
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Post by hollandr on Apr 25, 2008 23:11:11 GMT
> Even with two diverse characters such as Hitler/Jesus I am struggling to build a spectrum. Not with the latter character but with the former.
It may well be that putting your attention to the dark end of the spectrum is causing your consciousness to drop. And when you withdraw your attention from the dark end your consciousness comes up again so that the result is a rapid cycling up and down.
I suggest you put your attention in the centre of your forehead and intend the number 5.2 (your subconscious knows exactly what the numbers mean) and look out through that point to find the light source on which you wish to focus.
It may take some practice to be able to stabilise there but it is a most useful exercise as the love petals of the soul body pass through that point using the substance described by those numbers
Try the forehead 5.2 exercise for a week and then try the spectrum again.
Let me know how you go
Cheers
Russell
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Post by hollandr on Apr 29, 2008 3:58:40 GMT
This is a good exercise for anyone aspiring to practice Masonic Science
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Post by chriswitt on Apr 29, 2008 11:17:36 GMT
Can you tell me more about these petals, and also the number 5.2?
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Post by hollandr on Apr 29, 2008 11:24:09 GMT
>more about these petals
Traditionally the soul body (not the solar angel) exists on the 3 highest mental subplanes 5.3, 5.2 and 5.1 in ascending order
The "petals" are so called because the chakra (wheel) is commonly seen or thought of as a lotus flower
On 5.3 there are the intelligence petals of the soul body on 5.2 the love-wisdom petals on 5.1 the will petals
the third eye is the generic name given to the visual functioning of those 3 subplanes in a human
The intelligences that make up and utilise the soul body know exactly what the numbers mean and will take instruction based on those numbers
Give it a try
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Post by maat on Apr 29, 2008 23:06:26 GMT
>more about these petals Traditionally the soul body (not the solar angel) exists on the 3 highest mental subplanes 5.3, 5.2 and 5.1 in ascending order The "petals" are so called because the chakra (wheel) is commonly seen or thought of as a lotus flower On 5.3 there are the intelligence petals of the soul body on 5.2 the love-wisdom petals on 5.1 the will petals the third eye is the generic name given to the visual functioning of those 3 subplanes in a human Eureka! Maat
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Post by maat on Apr 29, 2008 23:11:34 GMT
This information demonstated in Royal Arch?
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Post by hollandr on Apr 30, 2008 0:30:15 GMT
>This information demonstated in Royal Arch?
Well one of the signs could be related to the functioning of the 3rd eye
And arguably the T grip could stimulate the head centres - but incidentally to the intent of the grip
Or do you have something else in mind?
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Post by hollandr on Apr 30, 2008 1:09:59 GMT
For those interested in practising the above exercise - control of the energies of 5.2 allows the initiate to distinguish his or her own thoughts from those coming from outside.
This is of great benefit because at that frequency there is on-going contact with the Divine Mind
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