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Post by leonardo on Sept 4, 2007 19:39:11 GMT
Im a semi-vegan ... im still not sure whether that is a good thing or not ... any clues ... ? Personally I wouldn't know but if you are happy eating the way you are then all well and good, if not, why not go the full hog and become a complete vegan - seems like you're half way there
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Post by palmereldritch on Sept 19, 2007 0:09:22 GMT
I am very tolerant of other's dietary requirements and when I was Secretary of an UGLE Lodge I had to arrange meals for Vegetarians, Diabetics, Halal, Kosher, Lactose Intolerance and Coeliac, (not all at once I must add). Now that is not a problem to a decent caterer. What I DO object very strongly indeed is the tendency of some Vegetarians and Vegans to ram their preferences down other meat eating people's throats and to assume a "Holier than Though" attitude. I have met a few like that in my time. If they do not wish to eat meat that is fine by me, but I have an equal right to be carnivorous. In fact I don't eat many vegetables at all as I don't like them and some indeed, cabbage, sprouts etc, actually upset my digestion. I consider such Veggie Bigots to be as out of order in for example insisting that no meat be served at a Festive Board as it would be for a carnivore such as myself to fail to provide a Veggie alternative for those who wished it. I happen to have formed rather strong opinions about eating meat, and find factory farming methods of raising and killing animals especially immoral. I also have opinions about meat, health, and the effect on the planet. However. Having eaten meat most of my life, and remembering how annoying I used to find PETA/vegetarian/vegan proselytizers, etc, I try to avoid going into it with people. Nothing is going to convert a meat eater except themselves...being an obnoxious vegetarian is just as annoying a stereotype as a recent born-again or convert to any new religion/belief system, so I just leave it alone. I tend to find that those angles only make people MORE set in their ways, anyway. So far, I haven't really got into a whole discussion about it even when pressed (except for people in personal life) - even at work, although some of the (imho, more insecure) men keep dropping silly references to my manhood, and how they "love a good steak". If it keeps up, I will point out how stupid their insecurities about manhood and diet are - I've never seen any woman ever grow male genitalia even if they ate steak every day. I mostly keep my diet decisions to myself, but every office has the nosey Nelly-type poking into everything, and the company orders lots of lunches for meetings so these people are going to know that I don't eat meat anymore. For some reason, some men really find vegetarianism in a male somehow threatening to their self-image or something. I don't get it, I wish someone could explain it to me. Anywho - way out on a tangent...but suffice it to say, I'm not going to stuff my reasons for vegetarianism down anyone's throat - unless they ask, or provoke me with stupid remarks. Online it may be a different matter, but in social situations, I generally keep my pie-hole shut on the matter. It's right up there with politics and religion... And who knows - vat-grown meat may make it all irrelevant, someday, anyway.
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Post by maat on Sept 19, 2007 0:27:41 GMT
IN the gospels of St Thomas (?) Jesus was asked if vegetarianism was advisable. The answer... More important is what comes out of the mouth, than what goes in. Maat
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Post by thedixiemason on Sept 19, 2007 1:34:04 GMT
IN the gospels of St Thomas (?) Jesus was asked if vegetarianism was advisable. The answer... More important is what comes out of the mouth, than what goes in. Maat What did he say? I can't remember. Are you going to make me look it up?
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Post by thedixiemason on Sept 19, 2007 1:43:45 GMT
I know that God says he likes the smell of cooking meat...
Lev 1:11 And he shall kill it on the side of the altar northward before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall sprinkle his blood round about upon the altar. Lev 1:12 And he shall cut it into his pieces, with his head and his fat: and the priest shall lay them in order on the wood that [is] on the fire which [is] upon the altar: Lev 1:13 But he shall wash the inwards and the legs with water: and the priest shall bring [it] all, and burn [it] upon the altar: it [is] a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD.
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Post by maat on Sept 19, 2007 2:13:32 GMT
Jesus is reported to have said: "When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them. After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you." www.misericordia.edu/users/davies/thomas/Trans.htmMaat
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Post by parisfred on Sept 20, 2007 10:42:59 GMT
I take the problem on the social side eating animals protein have an important cost on environment, it takes a lots of energy, water etc… to do a steak or the strange piece of beef in side a fast food hamburger.
Most of the deforestation in South America –brazil- is done to produce soya not for human need but to feed the cattle. The producing of meat produces in return a lot of waste and destruction,
I am not a militant, I eat meat when I am invited or when I cannot do otherwise but I don't buy meat anymore.
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Post by lauderdale on Sept 20, 2007 11:06:28 GMT
Your choice Brother, not mine, it's a free country.
I have just eaten a Burger and do you know.
I ENJOYED IT!
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Post by maat on Sept 21, 2007 0:36:43 GMT
Mother Earth gets the last burp - she eats all of us... ;D
Maat
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