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Post by sniffles on Feb 16, 2008 3:09:25 GMT
I drew this one as an illustration to show how our Masonic Aprons is a veiled Tree of Life:
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Post by hollandr on Mar 11, 2008 3:39:58 GMT
Well the use of a triangle and square certainly can be related to the ToL
But how then is the MM shorter on the Tree than the EA?
It may be better to consider the triangle of spirit entering into the square of matter.
The ToL is certainly closely related to Masonry as it comes through the Jewish tradition. It is not clear to me however that the new format for Masonry will have the same geometry.
This is because the renewal of Masonry takes it into right relationship with other kingdoms. And those relationships are not so easily expressed in linear or zigzag movements
Cheers
Russell
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 11, 2008 6:53:27 GMT
It is not clear to me however that the new format for Masonry will have the same geometry... This is because the renewal of Masonry takes it into right relationship with other kingdoms. Is this "new format" and "renewal" newspeak for your "new dispensation"? And those relationships are not so easily expressed in linear or zigzag movements So much for most of our W.T.'s; Our meeting on the Level and parting on the Square; And, " I must premise, for your general information, that all aquares, levels and perpendiculars are true and proper signs whereby to know a Mason."
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Post by hollandr on Mar 11, 2008 8:18:32 GMT
Perhaps it is possible to transcend the square and level.
Maybe there is a circle hidden in plain sight
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 11, 2008 9:51:49 GMT
Perhaps it is possible to transcend the square and level.
Maybe there is a circle hidden in plain sight There is square work, denoted by the square, and there is round work, denoted by the compasses. It is not clear to me however that the new format for Masonry will have the same geometry... This is because the renewal of Masonry takes it into right relationship with other kingdoms. Is this "new format" and "renewal" newspeak for your "new dispensation"?
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Post by vajranagini on Apr 12, 2011 1:29:27 GMT
Did you know that the word "right" derives from the Sanskrit "Ritam" or "cosmic harmony". Thus, a "right" angle of 90 degrees is in harmony with the universe and will get the job done. Also, the number 90 is the value of the Hebrew letter Tzaddi, which is associated with "righteousness", as in "Tzaddik": a righteous man.
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Post by rembrandt on Apr 12, 2011 4:22:07 GMT
Did you know that the word "bard" sounds like "bird?" That means that bards spoke to birds and they WERE in harmony with birds so they could shape change into a bird and birds are CENTER of everything really because the phoenix is a bird so bards are really reborn and that is why humans still have music.
The letter "Q" is like que which means line. A line is straight and TRUE so all of this is true and Masons use the LEVEL so all Masons are really bards and therefore birds and therefore immortal.
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Post by sid on Apr 12, 2011 9:37:51 GMT
Did you know that the word "bard" sounds like "bird?" That means that bards spoke to birds and they WERE in harmony with birds so they could shape change into a bird and birds are CENTER of everything really because the phoenix is a bird so bards are really reborn and that is why humans still have music. The letter "Q" is like que which means line. A line is straight and TRUE so all of this is true and Masons use the LEVEL so all Masons are really bards and therefore birds and therefore immortal. Here is another possible source: www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=bard&searchmode=noneInterestingly the origine of the word 'free' is from the word for 'family'.
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Post by maat on Apr 12, 2011 23:04:39 GMT
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Post by maat on Apr 12, 2011 23:39:12 GMT
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Post by anubis on Apr 13, 2011 0:44:33 GMT
I was trying to think of his name yesterday. I can hear him in my mind spouting this nonsense on Art Bell. Maat, Stan is a nice guy but a complete idiot when it comes to language. Just because a word sounds similar to one in another language does not mean they have the same origin and meaning. This is a mistake of amateurs.
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Post by maat on Apr 13, 2011 1:59:37 GMT
I don't remember him sprouting on about sound alike words. I was rather impressed with his work on the Two-Torus and its possible relationship to the the formation of the Hebrew alphabet. Below is a Clifford torus, you need to access Stan's site to see his torus and explanations. I'm a fan Seems he impresses quite a few Rabbis as well. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus
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Post by maat on Apr 13, 2011 2:02:39 GMT
His site... The Meru Foundation Research site meru.org/
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Post by vajranagini on Apr 18, 2011 22:02:16 GMT
Actually the Godwin guy from Llewellyn argues that the name of Jesus is actually spelt with the Vau in a different place; in front of the Shin instead of after it.
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Post by vajranagini on Apr 18, 2011 22:05:46 GMT
I was trying to think of his name yesterday. I can hear him in my mind spouting this nonsense on Art Bell. Maat, Stan is a nice guy but a complete idiot when it comes to language. Just because a word sounds similar to one in another language does not mean they have the same origin and meaning. This is a mistake of amateurs. I can assure you that much more often has the similar sound has led me down the RIGHT path, not the wrong one! Many people also forget: Sanskrit is an INDO- EUROPEAN language, and NOT an "Asian' one!
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Post by vajranagini on Apr 18, 2011 22:08:53 GMT
His site... The Meru Foundation Research site meru.org/ "Meru", eh? The mountain of meditation, said to be the pivot of the world...and lifted from the Indian Tantric tradition, where the Power of Shakti is freed from its prision in the sacral plexus and guided upwards to the top of 'Mount Meru, there to re-unite with "Shiva", the Supremely Auspicious".
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Post by anubis on Apr 19, 2011 1:19:16 GMT
I was trying to think of his name yesterday. I can hear him in my mind spouting this nonsense on Art Bell. Maat, Stan is a nice guy but a complete idiot when it comes to language. Just because a word sounds similar to one in another language does not mean they have the same origin and meaning. This is a mistake of amateurs. I can assure you that much more often has the similar sound has led me down the RIGHT path, not the wrong one! Many people also forget: Sanskrit is an INDO- EUROPEAN language, and NOT an "Asian' one! Duh!
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