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Post by whistler on Dec 3, 2010 10:23:45 GMT
A true Freemason does not worship anything - worship is a word that belongs with fear,or ego. and for Lucifer - who or what is Lucifer - but Men's invention of something opposite to Goodness. Sounds like a convenient excuse for something going wrong....When we follow our Masonic teachings and values there is simple no such thing a Lucifer
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Post by maximus on Dec 5, 2010 0:53:44 GMT
A true Freemason does not worship anything - worship is a word that belongs with fear,or ego. and for Lucifer - who or what is Lucifer - but Men's invention of something opposite to Goodness. Sounds like a convenient excuse for something going wrong....When we follow our Masonic teachings and values there is simple no such thing a Lucifer Lucifer is not Satan or the "Debbil" anyway, but is a metaphor for the "bright morning star," or Venus.
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Post by happyzealot on Mar 21, 2011 8:27:21 GMT
Not even a metaphor, more like shoddy translation of a passage in Isaiah.
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Post by Hubert (N. Z.) on Dec 9, 2011 1:23:26 GMT
My apologies if this has already been stated in the past 12 pages, my take on Lucifer is: Lucifer refers to the "Light Bringer" or as some refer to the dawn light. I see two fully acceptable explanations: From sleep we arrise at dawn to a new day, in which because of the light we can see clearly. Light Bringer refers to the Enlightend mind in understanding spiritual/esoteric study, so Lucifer opens our understanding to what the Cosmos/God has to teach us.
Satan more correctly is the term one should use for the negative force created by God/Cosmos. But it is just that, a negative element that harmonises the possitve force in existance. Reality just IS. no plus no minus. Only in the Earthly realm do we see Go(o)d & Evil. God is above all that, and that is what I strive to achieve.
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Post by etumalku on Feb 7, 2012 20:03:40 GMT
From a Luciferian view, Lucifer is the 'Bringer of Light' (Lux Lucis) He is gnosis, truth and Divine knowledge. Lucifer symbolizes progress and intellectual inquiry, it is through Lucifer's spirit that humanity first climbed down from the tree and has represented the flow of progress ever since.
Lucifer is not mentioned anywhere in Old or New Testaments and Luciferianism is distinctly different from Satanism.
But Lucifer may be more than a metaphor for rebellion, enlightenment and advancement - as the pure creative and motive light, Lucifer may actually be the key to life itself . . .
The DNA within the nuclei of all cells of living creatures contains biophotons or ultra-weak proton emissions - in other words, light! A dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA connects cells, tissues and organs and serve as the organism's main communication network.
Lucifer is on the move inside you and me, chattering between cell and cell, rousing the cohorts of the life-force, keeping us alive and wonderful. Every man and woman is a star - and now we know we have our own inner light.
Lucifer brought us the Truth and our Free Will, shows us the way to either be One with God (RHP) or to be a God (LHP).
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Post by jackson on Mar 1, 2012 6:48:58 GMT
Now hold on for a minute... Isn't it true that the blue degrees are considered part of the Scottish Rite? I've read as much in a few places in the masonic literature and I've seen a few masonic ads stating as much (and these were from people like worshipful masters and 32, 33rd degree masons). Secondly, it's a classic sidestep to say "Freemasonry doesn't really worship one particular deity"; according to several of the masonic fathers, you are required to practice a religion and worship A deity if you're going to be a mason. Doesn't encourage you to follow any ONE particular deity; it merely states that YOU are to believe in ONE supreme being/deity. This is called a landmark by the way. Thirdly, yes Tim; Albert Pike does make mention of Lucifer but he only uses his name one time in Morals and Dogma and it's taken out of it's context. Pike is basically stating that the apocalypse is the greatest aspect of the masonic faith and "despises the works of Lucifer." Now if he says that the apocalypse promotes the masonic faith and basically makes Lucifer look bad, if we take that statement at face value, isn't he's saying that masonry defies Lucifer? Read the WHOLE CHAPTER that the quote belongs to and when you come back, tell me what the context of the quote is again.
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Post by offramp on Sept 9, 2016 14:17:35 GMT
I saw this article which I think gives a very rational and enlightened resumé of the Lucifer/Morning Star problem. It is at Lucifer : The Greatly Misunderstood, but as that is a blog and likely to disappear I'll mention a few highlights.......
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Post by billmcelligott on Sept 10, 2016 12:24:31 GMT
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Post by peter2 on Sept 10, 2016 22:06:46 GMT
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