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Post by hollandr on Mar 15, 2007 5:10:29 GMT
I am not sure whether this belongs in this thread but today I was listening to a geologist who said that the limestone used in the casing of the Great Pyramid (now largely gone) is not natural limestone but has been ground down and used for a limestone concrete www.geopolymer.org/category/archaeology/pyramids/Thus the casing (and some other) stones seem to be cast and not carved. This would allow very accurate sizing, avoid wastage from broken or mis-sized blocks and reduce the numbers of skilled work men required. It would also explain why the quarries in the plateau apparently do not contain rubbish from cutting large stones and are apparently only large enough if there was no wastage of rock Now if only we can figure out how they drilled the sarcophagus in the Great Pyramid: "Petrie had calculated the rate of descent of this ancient tubular drill, by measuring the distance between the spiral grooves it left behind on the core, as 1/10th of an inch per revolution. Which means, according to Dunn, that these ancient drills cut through solid granite with a feed rate 500 times greater than today's diamond drills. " Cheers Russell
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 15, 2007 5:44:22 GMT
Finally, some concrete evidence! Seriously Russell, I am very interested. Since hearing of this as a fringe theory, I have considered it quite plausible and your link makes it more so. Thank you for sharing the information ;D
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 17, 2007 23:43:24 GMT
Bro. Russell,You might find this site of interest. It includes photos of drill cores from the Petrie Museum (example below): Ancient Egyptian Stoneworking Tools and Methods. Incidentally, Dunn's calculations appear to assume an unlikely correspondence of speed for drill rotation (nor do they appear to allow for slippage). Per revolution, the Egyptian methods may have been more efficient than are modern methods but the revolutions themselves would have been much, much slower than with mechanized, modern, diamond tipped drills.
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Post by hollandr on Mar 18, 2007 0:11:25 GMT
Philip The photo above shows what look like the marks of the drilling - about about 10 rotations per inch of progress through granite. It would be good to see an example of the drill used to make the core but I don't see anything except drawings of proposed low tech drill bits. Perhaps the drillers took their drills home afterwards See also www.geocities.com/unforbidden_geology/slate_dish_1.jpgHow was that shaped? By drilling? It is likely an example of a stone converted to a soft concrete for shaping Cheers Russell
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 18, 2007 1:33:51 GMT
Bro. Russell,Your suggestion is a possibility. However, we need to be careful we do not resort to any possibility, simply because we have no other explanation. In Theology this practice is sometimes referred to as an appeal to a God of the Gaps. Even with that caution in mind, I think you may be onto something of significance in this case. In the case of the cement part of your earlier post, we know that from pre-dynastic times, the Egyptians used powdered rock to make faience ornaments. Having that skill, there would not have been any preposterous additional skills required to make cement (as the Romans clearly demonstrated much later—and from whom the term, 'Caementarius', for 'Mason' derives).
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Post by maat on Apr 13, 2007 2:05:19 GMT
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Post by maat on Apr 15, 2007 23:10:16 GMT
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Post by maat on May 21, 2007 2:33:36 GMT
Well! I just found out that as well as our backbone having 33 bones, analysis shows that clay is made up of 33 minerals and these correspond with 33 essential minerals in the human body.
Maat
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Post by maat on Jun 8, 2007 6:02:55 GMT
I have discovered the secrets of the pyramids, and have found out how the Egyptians and the ancient builders in Peru, Yucatan, and Asia, with only primitive tools, raised and set in place blocks of stone weighing many tons!
---Edward LeedskalninI love this chap and his story. He built a castle out of coral all by himself, with no heavy equipment. He was also seen levitating huge stones. If you access this link you might find out how he did it. Twin magnetic forces, which form grids, did put me in mind of the Pillars and the Pavement. www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_coralcastle1.htmA good weekend read. Maat
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Post by maat on Jun 8, 2007 6:52:03 GMT
Talking about a good read.... www.nexusmagazine.com/articles.htmlA real mixed bag ... and lots and lots to make you think about. Could be a mix of charlatans in there as well, so keep your eyes open as well as your brain. Maat
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Post by sid on Jun 8, 2007 10:49:03 GMT
Greetings, I have discovered the secrets of the pyramids, and have found out how the Egyptians and the ancient builders in Peru, Yucatan, and Asia, with only primitive tools, raised and set in place blocks of stone weighing many tons!
---Edward LeedskalninI love this chap and his story. He built a castle out of coral all by himself, with no heavy equipment. He was also seen levitating huge stones. If you access this link you might find out how he did it. Twin magnetic forces, which form grids, did put me in mind of the Pillars and the Pavement. www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_coralcastle1.htmA good weekend read. Maat remindes me of an old French or Spanish(?) guy who has been building his own cathedral for many years.
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Post by maat on Jun 13, 2007 22:47:16 GMT
I would be very interested to hear more about your fellow Sid! Can you seek out more info for us please?
Maat
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Post by maat on Jun 13, 2007 23:25:41 GMT
In the meantime here is an interesting 'secret' for you to contemplate... Background ... 1/ Many traditions, including the Christian, maintain that we are really composite beings (trinity), more that one intelligence/consciousness? (Who do we argue with when we argue with ourselves? 2/ In the diagram of "The Anatomy of Secrets" that Imakegarb posted on this site I noted that some tradition/s maintain that Cain is attributed to one side of the brain and Abel the other. Which made me wonder about one one side of the brain 'killing off" the other. 3/ Then I saw a TV show in 'the Alien Hand Syndrome" ... Omigosh!! Talk about wrestling with the devil.. So I did a little bit of research this am and found this fascinating, if not a little scary, information. 1. Alien hand syndrome (Dr. Strangelove syndrome)
Alien hand syndrome is a neurological disorder in which one of the sufferer's hands seems to take on a life of its own. Sometimes the sufferer will not be aware of what the hand is doing until it is brought to his or her attention. Alien hands can perform complex acts such as undoing buttons or removing clothing.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Hand_Syndrome2. Foreign accent syndrome
The syndrome causes people to speak their native language as if they had a foreign accent; for example, an American native speaker might speak with a French-sounding accent. It usually follows a severe brain injury, such as a stroke.
3. Capgras' syndrome
The Capgras delusion or Capgras' syndrome is a rare disorder in which a person holds a delusional belief that an acquaintance, usually a close family member or spouse, has been replaced by an identical looking imposter.
4. Fear of the number 13 (Triskaidekaphobia)
Adolf Hitler was triskaidekaphobic. A specific fear of Friday the 13th is called paraskavedekatriaphobia or friggatriskaidekaphobia. Tetraphobia is the fear of the number 4 in China, Japan, and Korea.
5. Working out too much (Bigorexia)
Bigorexia or Muscle dysmorphia is a disorder in which an individual becomes obsessed that they are not muscular enough. Sometimes referred to as bigorexia or reverse anorexia nervosa, it is a very specific case of body dysmorphic disorder (BDD). Muscle dysmorphia can cause individuals to: - Constantly check themselves in a mirror - Become distressed if a gym session is missed - Take potentially dangerous drugs (e.g. anabolic steroids) - Neglecting jobs/relationships/family due to exercising
6. Collecting too many books (Bibliomania)
Bibliomania is an obsessive-compulsive disorder involving the collecting of books to the point where social relations or health are damaged. The purchase of multiple copies of the same book and edition and the accumulation of books beyond possible capacity of use or enjoyment are frequent symptoms of bibliomania.
7. Exploding head syndrome
It causes the sufferer to occasionally experience a tremendously loud noise as if from within his or her own head, usually described as an explosion or a roar. This usually occurs within an hour or two of falling asleep, but is not the result of a dream.
8. Trichotillomania
Trichotillomania is an impulse control disorder characterised by the repeated urge to pull out scalp hair, eyelashes, beard hair, nose hair, pubic hair, eyebrows or other body hair. It may be distantly related to obsessive-compulsive disorder, with which it shares both similarities and differences.
9. Fear of men (Androphobia)
Androphobia is an abnormal and persistent fear of men. Sufferers of this disorder experience anxiety even though they realize they may face no real threat. Androphobia is one of infinite possible phobias, and as such can be traced back to a specific triggering event, usually a traumatic experience at an early age.
10. Faking illnesses to gain attention (Munchausen syndrome)
In Munchausen syndrome, the sufferer feigns, exaggerates, or creates symptoms of illnesses in himself or herself in order to gain attention, sympathy, and comfort from medical personnel. The role of "patient" is a familiar and comforting one, and it fills a psychological need in people with Munchausen's. www.sciencenewsden.com/2006/10mostinterestingstrangestmentaldisorders.shtmlMeditation is said to bring the left brain/right brain into sync so that eventually there is an arch of energy ("spark") from the pineal to the pituitary glands and "the eye" becomes single. Cosmic Consciousness. ( ... and it just occurred to me that in my Sitchin dream, reported here a year or two ago, the dream brothers were told "if ye be sitchins, your right hand would know what your left hand was doing". Omigosh ) Maat
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Post by Tamrin on Jun 14, 2007 0:08:42 GMT
Aaah! Distorting mirrors showing by contrast the reality and nature of that inner life which we take for granted. While not denying all outer manifestations of such experiences (after all, the 'mystic tie' represents a perfect unity), I suggest the inner life is indeed the core of the esoteric studies we are undertaking. You may also be interested in the various phenomena of Synesthesia, degrees of which I suspect underlie some 'outer' experiences.
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Post by hollandr on Jun 22, 2007 0:01:18 GMT
I was reading Lloyd Pye's site www.lloydpye.com/and he makes that statement that all cheetahs are clones - have identical DNA. I wonder if that is proof of intervention in the planet Cheers Russell
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Post by Tamrin on Jun 22, 2007 2:42:33 GMT
I was reading Lloyd Pye's site www.lloydpye.com/
and he makes that statement that all cheetahs are clones - have identical DNA. I wonder if that is proof of intervention in the planet
Cheers
Russell Hardly "proof" of anything but credulity. We read: That cheetahs exist anywhere is a miracle in itself. About ten to twelve thousand years ago, the species went through a genetic "bottleneck" when, for some unknown reason, at least 99 percent of the entire world population of cheetahs died in a very short time period. Some scientists have even suggested that the population might have gotten as low as one pregnant female. By comparison, there are between 30 and 50 Florida Panthers left and they are so inbred that the cubs are starting to be born with heart defects.
As a result of the population crash, and the subsequent inbreeding, a male cheetah has a sperm count that is 90 percent lower than tigers' and lions'. On top of that, 75 percent of the sperm that IS produced is abnormal. If cheetahs were livestock, they would be classified as infertile.
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Post by maat on Jun 22, 2007 3:03:53 GMT
Hardly "proof" of anything but credulity. ...credulous - liable to believe something without proof. Fortunately, both Einstein and Hawking found this worked to their advantage. They started with the answer and worked backwards! Maat
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Post by hollandr on Jun 22, 2007 3:22:33 GMT
If the identical DNA statement is correct, then even if the cheetah population came through a single remaining female (and no male) cheetahs (what a wonderful hypothesis) then there would still be variations in DNA - as far as I understand
For example, if the human population were reduced to a single female carrying twins - surely the descendents would show some variation in DNA? Or am I missing something?
Cheers
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Post by Tamrin on Jun 22, 2007 5:05:42 GMT
...credulous - liable to believe something without proof. Credulous: " Disposed to believe too readily; gullible."
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Post by maat on Jun 22, 2007 5:14:42 GMT
...credulous - liable to believe something without proof. Credulous: " Disposed to believe too readily; gullible." Bet your middle name is Thomas ....
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