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Post by teddyballgame on Oct 23, 2008 0:07:07 GMT
Salutations
Would anyone know how to combat "The power of Apep" if one was to find that it was trying to be used against one?
Namaste TBG
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Post by maximus on Oct 23, 2008 2:57:55 GMT
Salutations Would anyone know how to combat "The power of Apep" if one was to find that it was trying to be used against one? Namaste TBG Explain what you mean by "the power of Apep."
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Post by maat on Oct 23, 2008 3:37:00 GMT
Apep = Apophis Enemy of Ma'at apparently. " The Egyptian priests even had a detailed guide to fighting Apep, referred to as The Books of Overthrowing Apep or (in Greek) the Book of Apophis. The chapters described a gradual process of dismemberment and disposal, and include:
Spitting Upon Apep Defiling Apep with the Left Foot etc etc I wonder if there is a connection here with all the Madonnas shown trampling the snake beneath her left foot? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ApepApep was slain by Set who was considered evil himself .. " Set made a plan to murder his childless brother and take the throne. He made a great feast, supposedly in honor of Osiris, and with 72 accomplices ready, he tricked Osiris into laying down in a coffer - whoever fitted into the richly ornamented chest would win it - and considering that he'd measured it to fit his brother exactly, Osiris fit perfectly... and Set's accomplices nailed down the lid and threw it into the Nile."There is that mysterious number 72 again. www.touregypt.net/featurestories/set.htmMaat
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Post by maximus on Oct 23, 2008 3:46:56 GMT
I wonder if there is a connection here with all the Madonna's shown trampling the snake beneath her left foot? Of course. The Christian's ripped off thier Madonna image from Egypt (Aset/Isis).
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Post by maat on Oct 23, 2008 4:12:10 GMT
Salutations Would anyone know how to combat "The power of Apep" if one was to find that it was trying to be used against one? Namaste TBG Tyling the lodge, as they say. I am sure that there are many more experienced than I in these matters, but the general belief is that you fight from a level above the attacker. Mentally direct or order (with all your power) the attacker to stop, or direct ithe energy towards the Light. Mental activity is 'higher' than astal or physical. As the SD is 'higher' than the JD and the IG. It is a line of authority. The deacons are a lot like Guardian Angels aren't they Being a Christian I find the Lord's Prayer very effective. Don't know what happens there, but the attack 'dissolves' for want of a better description. I figure "S/He/It" takes care of things for me. Maat PS It is best to fight fire with water ... it is best to fight hate with love, even if you want to 'punch their lights out' ;D
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Post by maat on Oct 23, 2008 23:01:36 GMT
How does this fit in with someone coming at you with a knife?
Using your suggestion, one would end up as dead meat. Whereas if you use your mental ability as well as your physical body, as in martial arts, you are using the offender's aggressive energy as a defense. You are directing it's course rather than the offender, so that the situation is rendered harmless to oneself and hopefully advantageous to the attacker, in that you might save him a long gaol term for murder.
My simple mind needs to reduce things to every day situations so I can test them.
Having said that, I have been attacked by the invisible, I could actually feel what was going on, and the Lord's prayer saved the day. I had to say it more than once I can tell you and with some urgency at that.
The inner path still passes through dense forests, dark caves, high mountains, deep chasms. And like their outer life counterparts these places all have their own life forms. (No need to be any more scared of them than you would be of a tiger in the forest, a bear in a cave, ice and chasms on the mountain top ;D)
Be prepared - or as your ritual tells you when you embark for the inner world - Tyle the lodge - place a guard about yourself - wake your guardian angel up - make sure you have an outer guard. Catholics do this by making the sign of the Cross (can't get a better OG that the Father!) Guess what - Masons do the same thing - what are you told to do and what does the Master do BEFORE opening the lodge?
Maat
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Post by teddyballgame on Oct 23, 2008 23:31:19 GMT
I have discovered that an enemy is apparently "using the power of Apep" against me and my brothers. It is as if an energy vortex is sucking the energy out of us when in the Temple? A dark type of veil is over the Temple that seems to effect all who come in, and through others more versed in the astral, it was determined that this is what is being used against us?
trying to find answers.
namaste TBG
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Post by maximus on Oct 24, 2008 2:12:21 GMT
Is this a Masonic temple, or that of another order? I need to know some more details if you want advice.
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Post by jimnicholson on Nov 1, 2008 21:35:46 GMT
That which we fear we give energy to...
First off, for one to be immune to any outside "suggestion" or "thought form" they must develop a strong and unyielding "One Life Conception."
If there is only One Life then the illusion of separation can NOT become manifest. A new friend today mentioned something about "spells," and it was interesting to see her come into her awareness of the Spirit within when given the truth of our inner nature: That being that we have a component which originates trains of causation (masculine aspect) and a component within (Spirit -- feminine aspect) which deductively takes on ideas like a piece of photographic film and expresses them regardless of good or bad -- does so purely as a reflection...
We are always giving pictures to the Spirit -- and to some degree -- these can thus become real for others -- all because of the underlying Oneness of Life.
To break the resonance with an unwanted "thought picture" which one should admit is somehow being given a degree of energy by the receiving party, is best done by not resisting nor doing away with the "unwanted thing" but is best done via the principle of displacement -- or taking on a new thing which has MORE AMPLITUDE -- MORE ENERGY which is more desirable...
Hence why any ailment or habit is best dealt with not by resisting it but by finding a new avenue of expression which will replace it... Then give more energy to that which is desired -- make a stronger picture in all details -- give no energy to that which was...
So, to form of NEW IMAGE which displaces the previous -- going DIRECT with the ONE LIFE or SPIRIT would be some good advice...
To level one's self to the abstraction plane or the "protect against he/she/it/them" would actually be a point of weakness right out of the gate... By doing so your are admitting the there is not ONE LIFE but many -- and that another has some sort of corner on the market of Thought Forms. To go direct to the One Life is to leave all other things aside and cast new seed accordingly... ; >
Better to cultivate a view that ALL LIFE IS ONE and that EACH have a DIRECT link to that ONENESS. To the degree one holds conviction of there being ONLY ONE LIFE will be the degree that their thought forms take on greater and greater Power.
There is truly no power outside of the Onelife... No one group nor person has it -- they merely contact and direct it...
All energy must eventually reverse and go back to meet its source. That is a principle which has correspondence upon many planes. If we can see the return path and hold a conviction of the Oneness of Life -- that is -- that which has allegedly "gone out" will eventually have to return to Oneness then a resonance can be created where the unwanted thought form is now more attracted to its sender...
The only way to become affected by "negative thought forms or suggestions" is to have agreed on some level to become one with them. Two modes of this occurring:
1. FASCINATION. This would be the realm of fear. Study fear -- become observant of it. Decide to use the experience for all students/brothers/sisters involved to TAKE STOCK OF PERSONAL FEAR. Then via the displacement principle, re affirm the conviction of FAITH that all things eventually BALANCE and that One Great Power is truly within everything -- the first Cause...
2. Another form of agreement is by actual AGREEMENT or COOPERATIVE rapport. This is illustrated best by when a doctor works with a patient and the positive healing vibrations of the doctor, like a strong battery, are transfered to the patient.. In this case there is agreement of the Composite or Oneness -- and ideas transfer...
Most occurrences of "negative spells or bad images" manifesting are via the 1st form of Oneness or FASCINATION. The people of the dark ages were willingly FASCINATED by the so called "black plague." They gave energy to it -- they were ignorant of ideas becoming concepts becoming realities -- and thus -- with "out of control minds" they became one with their fears...
In our times with all the advancement in science regarding quantum physics we see that no point in the Universe is detached from any other point and that all things stew in a marvelous Ocean of Motion or Ocean of Energy.
Give power to the REALITY of the THIS ONE SEETHING ESSENCE which is back of all -- like the pixels on your computer screen it is behind all images which can manifest upon your screen. Leave any recognition of the dark thought forms behind... They are a product of previous images and via the Inverse Square Law will die out in time... Choose to take on the New -- give energy to it -- create brilliant thought forms which stir your deepest dreams.
That will be a choice you make...
Then the Spirit Within will take that choice DEDUCTIVELY (without choice) and carry forth Her Work on all planes...
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Times of despair and uncertainty must be used for reflection, for if there is Onelife there must be some reason that such is occurring. Always the most powerful point of consideration is self-analysis -- or CLEARLY looking at what WE are contributing to any situation. If we take stock of Fear, Worry and Anger we will rise in vibration and can then attract a new experience.
Best of Luck with your challenge!
Remember "Love is the dynamic principle of life itself -- a free givingness thru creation -- radiating like the sun never expecting anything in return -- a recognition of complete unity with life -- the strongest energy possible..."
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 1, 2008 22:49:18 GMT
Great post Bro. Jim
One suggestion (not so much directed at you as at common usage) is that when active or passive, positive or negative, hard or soft, etc., etc. are meant, that those terms are used, rather than "masculine" or "feminine", which implies that the former is proper to men and the latter to women. In the context of the One Life, the unnecessary division of masculine/feminine lends itself to the illusion of separation.
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Post by vajranagini on Nov 11, 2008 4:16:52 GMT
The Qabalistic invocation of the power of Tiphareth would be just the thing..the power of the Sun is the proper counteractant to the power of Apep; after all, Ra overthrows Apep/Apophis in the Underworld every night. The Qabalistic invocation of Tiphareth also includes drawing on the power of "Michael" (He who is like unto God) as the Angel of Tiphareth. The Lesser Banishing Pentagram of Earth should also be performed. It would also help if you have some high-grade frankincense burning in your temple as the incense. if you do not have access to this ritual, I will try to dig it out for you.
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Post by paulh on Nov 11, 2008 5:59:15 GMT
I notice TBG has not posted for a while so perhaps this thread is more a matter of rumination.
And we unfortunately have no evidence to support the diagnosis of Apep. I would have liked to have met Apep
The other matter not raised above is diagnosing whether the disturbing entity (or entities) has a right to be there. If so, banishing would be of no avail.
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