Hello gentlemen. This is my first post. I entered my entry petition earlier this week week. I am sponsered by a past WM and a 25 year member and they advised i should have no trouble with the vote (criminal record, etc) For some reason. I am worried about the personal investigation at my apartment. Dont know why, as i feel i I have the right intentions for joining. Well, OK, I'm neurotic (or not). My major concern. which may well be ridiculous, is that if im accepted , is the initiation rituals. If they involve any sort of personal humiliation, I will walk out pronto. Im just too olde for the college fraternity nonsense. i know some rituals are a bit esoteric, which is fine, but I wont be ridculed. It would be a shame if I walked from what I believe to be a righteous fraternity over that.
I dont want rituals to be revealed, but any insight will help.
the investigation is usually a quite informal affair. If the committee members are serious about the process they should try and probe if you are serious about joining, but in no way does it resemble an inquisition. Remember, it is also an opportunity for you to ask them questions, i.e. you can make sure the ritual is not fraternity nonsense.
About that, though, you can rest assured: it is dignified and involves no humiliation and no hazing.
Hello and welcome. There is no "college faternity" type hazing involved in initiation. It is a serious and dignified undertaking, so rest assured that you will be fine. Don't worry with the investigation commitee, and, as has been suggested, ask questions of them as well.
Thank you for the fast reponse. This DOES help me. My closest sponsor is as silly as I am, so I cant get a straight response (nor can he easily get one from me as we have known each other for almost 30 years and he is the only person I can talk with and laugh like the little kids we were), but this does take a bit off my nerves. As I said, i feel I want to join for the proper reasons, which i have researched while filtering out the lies and nonsense, but still have that "taste in my mouth" from the college BS 20 years ago which I could never join (at the wise old age of 23) after seeing what friends went through. Again, thank you for the prompt replies. any more feedback is welcomed, and i hop to report back soon with "good" news!
Below is something I wrote about my Initiation and posted before but I feel it is relevant to this discussion and may be of help.
I’ll never forget the day when the letter arrived to say I’d been successfully balloted. It was a fairly anxious wait so you can imagine the excitement I felt when it was delivered, but the anticipation of that day, and the emotions I went through leading up to the Initiation was nothing in comparison to actually going through the Ceremony itself. It was literally a life changing moment that will remain with me forever.
And even though I was extremely excited about joining the Craft I did have some concerns about what might happen during the Initiation; I had an interest in Freemasonry for some years prior so couldn’t help but read and hear certain things, some of them being quite negative at the time. But I was told by each and every Mason I’d come to know not to be worried about anything untoward happening, that everything would be proper and respectful. And, of course, it was.
I can only restate what others have said, there will be no hazing but a wonderful experience awaits you
PM Hamlet of Van Lodge 8334 UGLE (Caerphilly - South Wales); J Hamlet of Van Chapter 8334 SW, Caerffili MMM 1348; PCN, Caerffili RAM 1348; St Teilo Chapter A&AR 789 Brangwyn SRIA 75; Castell Caerffili OSM 466; Fforest KT 582: Merthyr Tydfil R&SM 120, Penychen - Athelstan 53, RCC 295; KTP 100; OSC 21 TI
As everyone already has said (it's great to be in such a cool crowd ;D ), your initiation will be a wonderful and memorable experience. You will be relieved of all fear shortly after you enter the Lodgeroom. You will not be ridiculed. You will not be humiliated.
If at any time you doubt, bear in mind that all the Brothers in your lodge are wonderful people who would do no harm to anyone. And they themselves will have experienced the same initiation ritual that you are then experiencing. As nothing improper happened to them, nothing improper shall happen to you.
--Bro. Karen, 3° DISCLAIMER: I am not authorized to speak for my Obedience but am happy to offer personal opinions and observations. An authorized spokesperson for my Obedience may be contacted at the offices in Larkspur, CO.
I wonder if the suspense of not knowing whether or not there will be humiliation adds to the experience. I really like what Brother Bill had to say about trusting the brothers. I think the less the candidate knows and perhaps the more on edge they are could make for a more potent experience. It seems that element does increase awareness. As I study some of the older french rituals it seems there are plenty of elements to possibly scare the initiate and ample opportunity for them to leave without beholding the forms and beauties of masonry.
Thank you all! I do feel much better, and again thanks for your interest. The petition was presented so I'm awaiting the phone call for the interview within the month. I have no fears of this as I've thought it through, have no more reservations, and feel that i want to join for the right reasons. Not novelty. I really am now anticipating the interview positively!