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Post by hollandr on Jan 23, 2009 0:05:57 GMT
Some of us are old enough to remember President Kennedy and the sense of Arthurian endeavour that surrounded him. www.sptimes.com/News/111199/JFK/Camelot_s_spirit_endu.shtmlThe Arthurian energy has returned more strongly with Obama and already the press are detecting it news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7786440.stmThe Arthurian energy is closely related to Christ energies and easily confused "I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand Till we have built Jerusalem" Blake And "Oh, and while the King was looking down The Jester stole his thorny crown" McLean I expect the Arthurian energies to grow stronger until the time paths cross about 2033 when we may well have contagious embodiment of Arthurian intent The coming Depression is a wonderful time to renew inner meaning, simplify the outer life and join with TGAOTU and take our part in moving the Earth towards its appointed destiny Perhaps Masonry may renew itself and participate Cheers |
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Post by maat on Jan 23, 2009 0:18:42 GMT
I had a fleeting thought about him being Abraham Lincoln, born again, to witness here on Earth the fruition of what he started with emancipation. Hence the symbolic 'swearing in for the second time'.
I also feel a real 'calmness' about what is going on in the world right now.. for no good outward reason I can assure you. I think in may be good times in (heavy) disguise.
Maat
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Post by maximus on Jan 23, 2009 1:12:29 GMT
I had a fleeting thought about him being Abraham Lincoln, born again, to witness here on Earth the fruition of what he started with emancipation. Hence the symbolic 'swearing in for the second time'. Don't wish to rain on your parade, but, being histiorically accurate, Lincolon would have been appalled at the election of Obama. The Emancipation Proclomation was intended as a war document to demoralize the South, and applied only to terrirory not under Federal jurisdiction, which means that slave-holding states in the North were not effected. Lincoln also did not believe that Whites and Blacks could co-exist, and planned to repatriate them to the African continent.  This is media driven, just as the Bush hysteria was likewise media driven. Please, think for yourselves! |
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Post by maat on Jan 23, 2009 2:18:34 GMT
The Emancipation Proclomation was intended as a war document to demoralize the South, and applied only to terrirory not under Federal jurisdiction, which means that slave-holding states in the North were not effected. I didn't know that. Interesting. Maybe he was sent back to see where he went wrong the first time  Or maybe Obama was William Wilberforce - now there was a man! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_WilberforceSame as those that want the Islamic peoples to return to where-ever? Maybe time will prove what has happened before can happen again. Former 'foes' can become friends. Talking about which - many years ago I could not convince my husband that there could be another Depression. Cheers Maat |
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Post by ruffashlar on Feb 23, 2009 16:50:11 GMT
Lincoln also did not believe that Whites and Blacks could co-exist, and planned to repatriate them to the African continent.
No, that is what he said his intentions were - simply because, if you can believe it, in those days it was perfectly respectable to be a black-hating racial separatist, but talk of black emancipation was absolutely political suicide.
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Post by ruffashlar on Feb 23, 2009 16:53:01 GMT
I expect the Arthurian energies to grow stronger until the time paths cross about 2033 when we may well have contagious embodiment of Arthurian intent
Ah, Russell. Always a pleasure.
Cuculus canorus!
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Post by maat on Feb 24, 2009 3:07:16 GMT
Quizz... how many legends and myths and totally unbelievable stories feature
The Cup
The Sword
The Stone
Maat
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Post by lauderdale on Feb 24, 2009 15:59:00 GMT
Cup = Female
Sword = Male
I have laboured and brought forth a Stone?
Stone? More difficult to associate. To the Freemason the stone is of course the material on which they work, in many cases taken to be their own character, the Rough Ashlar being worked upon until Smooth and such as is fit to be used in the building of the Temple. In the Masonic Order of Operative Masons the Candidate is considered as a Living Stone and as part of the various Degrees passes through and is tried against the Gauges.
In some cases a Stone is looked upon as a stumbling block, something to be overcome to progress.
There is of course the significance of The Stone in Mark Masonry. A Curiously Wrought Stone, which the Builders rejected but which to them had qualities unknown but which was destined to become the Keystone of the Arch.
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Post by paulh on Feb 24, 2009 22:15:32 GMT
In alchemy a "stone" is something that is unchanged by fire. These are the mineral (philosophers') stone, the vegetable stone and the animal stone. The last is hardly discussed.
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Post by ruffashlar on Feb 26, 2009 20:16:07 GMT
Not to mention The Stone of the Gauls. ;D
The reason cup, sword and stone figure so heavily in European myth is because drinking, fighting and activities such as worship, astronomical observation and the coronation of kings are such universals in the more ancient portion of these cultures.
Extend the discussion to matters such as blood, sex, death and fertility and the links with other cultures around the world just sky-rocket.
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 21, 2009 19:15:24 GMT
Hi all, this is a link to a very cool set of discourses which connects the Arthurian legend with Kabala, for your enjoyment: www.crcsite.org/preface.htm |
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Post by pinocchio on Jun 5, 2009 9:12:09 GMT
Hello everyone, I'm new to this site and I think I'm gunna like being part of the community herein. The only problem is no one has hit this site in months... whats up with that???  |
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Post by leonardo on Jun 5, 2009 12:46:57 GMT
Hello everyone, I'm new to this site and I think I'm gunna like being part of the community herein. The only problem is no one has hit this site in months... whats up with that??? It seems you are referring to this actual thread and not the forum which is consistently busy. By the way, there is a section on the forum where you can introduce yourself properly; using a thread in isolation can lead to confusion [as is the case here]. |
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Post by ruffashlar on Jun 9, 2009 14:41:15 GMT
no one has hit this site in months... whats up with that???
Sorry, I haven't been posting recently ;D
Welcome aboard!
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Post by leonardo on Jun 9, 2009 16:59:04 GMT
no one has hit this site in months... whats up with that???Sorry, I haven't been posting recently ;D Welcome aboard! See, Ruff, it's all your fault ;D Good to see you on the forum again, BTW. |
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Post by maat on Jun 10, 2009 3:11:17 GMT
Changing my mind about a few things re Arthur, the Grail Cup etc... Revisiting the wounded Fisher King... the wound was in the thigh... and the spear drips blood, 3 drops from memory. Reading THE GARDEN OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER, THE JOURNEY TO SPIRITUAL FULFILMENT by Longfield Beatty. He makes that case for the spear representing 'desire', hence the placement of the wound. While we have desires for worldly things we are incapacitated to the things of spirit (Crown). The Grail is in our heads (literally I think). Mind you there could be a case for the Cauldron being there also ... Maat |
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Post by maat on Jun 10, 2009 3:15:04 GMT
This might be backed up by the tale about Arthur withdrawing the sword (Will) from stone (Matter). Matter/material things no longer dominate our will ... later when the sword 'fails' is it because we no longer wish to have an individual will - we have achieved the Wisdom to say "thy Will, not mine Lord" ?
Maat
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Post by paulh on Jun 10, 2009 7:50:46 GMT
the wound was in the thigh.. This is probably an euphemism for the groin - the fault was sexual And interestingly the land was becoming barren - so that the spiritual health of the king was critical to the health of the land. This tradition may have continued quite late into the middle ages with regicide following troubles in the land. There was a book about the ritual murder of English kings but I can't recall the name - anyone remember? |
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Post by paulh on Jun 10, 2009 7:51:44 GMT
The Grail is in our heads (literally I think). What is the relationship between the beehive and the grail? |
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Post by maat on Jun 10, 2009 23:51:26 GMT
There was a book about the ritual murder of English kings but I can't recall the name - anyone remember? Messianic Legacy? |
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